COVID 19 Vaccine Liability

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:
... First & foremost money talks with Big Pharma; always has...always will. They're the biggest lobbyist in Congress outspending Big Oil & Gas by a 2-1 margin! Big Pharma also controls the MSM as well as the CDC & FDA (captured agencies).

This. For decades, Big Pharma has lobbied for their interests. They pay millions in advertising dollars to media, including the conservative media. They unduly influence the FDA/CDC by providing six-figure "consulting" jobs for executives and upper management when they leave the FDA/CDC. If you research how FDA clinical trials are run, you'll be amazed at how bias can be slipped into the process... funding, choosing the clinics, choosing the doctors, providing grants, removing test subjects, proving efficacy, etc.

As other posters have correctly pointed out, there are legitimate reasons to provide immunity from lawsuits on vaccines, but for other drugs, the goal of Big Pharma is to "outrun the lawsuits." That is, they make billions selling a drug with the tacit understanding that they might have to pay millions in lawsuits down the road.

How much money is on the line? One article projected that Big Pharma would make $157 billion on COVID vaccines by 2025.

To me, the inability to sue Big Pharma isn't the issue. It's the calculated risk the CDC/FDA/etc are taking in pursuing mass vaccinations with only an educated guess as to the long-term adverse effects of these vaccines.

I understand the decision, but I'm disappointed at the arrogance of guys like Fauci who haven't seen a patient in 30 years in failing to use everything available to fight this disease. These include the obese losing weight (risk of death ~100% greater in men), lack of vitamin D (risk of death possibly ten-fold higher), melatonin (risk of death possibly 28% higher), not to mention hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and zinc.

Overwhelmingly, almost every medical professional I have asked over the past year is taking a vitamin D supplement. We know Fauci is because he admitted it in a long interview last September, but since then... <...crickets...>

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
Since 1986 it's been the case that vaccine makers are shielded from direct liability by federal law.
This arose after a scandal in the 1970/80s that linked an old form of the pertussis vaccine to permanent brain damage. Despite no casual link to the brain damage many vaccine makers didn't want to have to battle it out against brain-damaged kids in court (juries would be very sympathetic to the plaintiff), so almost all companies stopped making the pertussis vaccine by the mid 1980s. To spur robust vaccine supply, Congress passed a law the set up an independent system for arbitrating damages caused by vaccines - shielding the makers from lawsuit.
Basically pharma didn't want to be liable to whims of a jury and have fight anti-vax disinformation so they figured it was safer to just not produce the low-margin vaccines anyway. Congress realized this was national security issue and worked with them to provide a better system.
That's such BS college kid. If vaccines are so safe and carry an extremely low risk of injury, then manufacturers should be able to convince a jury with their overwhelming evidence that the vaccines aren't the cause of the injuries be brought forth in the lawsuits. Jurors aren't stupid - they'll listen carefully to expert testimony and consider all the evidence (I've served on a jury before in a civil case with a bunch of educated, smart people).
And if vaccines are so safe, why hasn't Congress rescinded the 1986 provision and put the manufacturers back on the hook for being responsible for their products? (If I buy a new set of wheels and the engine blows up and injures me, I can sue the snot out of the manufacturer!).
And if the mRNA vaccines are nearly 100% safe and can't possibly cause any of deaths or serious injuries being reported to VAERS (as you and your sidekick, Harambe, have been preaching all along), then why is Pfizer & Moderna getting immunity from product liability?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html
I think you need to learn a couple things in life with Big Pharma. First & foremost money talks with Big Pharma; always has...always will. They're the biggest lobbyist in Congress outspending Big Oil & Gas by a 2-1 margin! Big Pharma also controls the MSM as well as the CDC & FDA (captured agenices).
Btw, how much is pharma paying you & your sidekick to come on these discussion sites and aggressively market the Covid vaccines? 🤔

You missed the entire point of the 1986 legislation. It's difficult to convince manufactures to make generic, low-margin vaccines!

Recently trials have shown juries cannot be trusted to make informed, realistic decisions. The J&J talcum powder payout is enough to scare any vaccine maker off from making an off-patent, low margin product.

Would you force makers to make a vaccine and sell at cost? Would you allow them to charge more? What are your options for maintaining vaccine supply?

"Big Pharma also controls the MSM as well as the CDC & FDA"

I always laugh at this. The US pharma sector is maybe worth like ~$1-1.5T and the US media sector is worth ~$1T. Pharma doesn't "control" the media by any means, they couldn't if they wanted to!

I am happy to have a discussion about the balance between ensuring accountability and stimulating supply but not if you're convinced of such exaggerations.

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