Get vaxxed, burn masks
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/end-mask-mandates-to-spur-vaccination-11620340525
Get vaxxed, burn masks
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/end-mask-mandates-to-spur-vaccination-11620340525
The thing is to get people to understand and believe in the value of protecting others as well as themselves. A pandemic connotes worldwide. So it is also important to get countries (eg. Ours) to think in terms of protecting other countries as well. (There's the rub!)
It's a challenge in adulthood, and humanity.
Or force people to vaccinate by saying they can’t go maskless until they all vaccinate.
The ironic tragedy of so many people subscribing to Donald Trump 's push for lack of control while having their definition of freedom controlled by Donald Trump.
Heartwrenching.
What?
Precisely.
jamese wrote:
The thing is to get people to understand and believe in the value of protecting others as well as themselves. A pandemic connotes worldwide. So it is also important to get countries (eg. Ours) to think in terms of protecting other countries as well. (There's the rub!)
It's a challenge in adulthood, and humanity.
This is a very uneducated take. There is no evidence people spread the virus at any meaningful level once vaccinated. It is very unscientific to require vaccinated people to take any measure. Someone in New York or California who is vaccinated does absolutely nothing to protect anyone outside of the US. You are far more likely to kill someone by passing on the Flu once vaccinate for Covid than by passing on Covid.
Lol. Lunatic asylum echo chamber.
How can you force private companies to stop requiring masks?
samesame wrote:
How can you force private companies to stop requiring masks?
You can’t, but they are following political guidance. Change the political rules, companies will quickly follow. They didn’t require masks before Fauci said we need them, and they’ll drop the rules as soon as his lordship decrees it so.
jamese wrote:
The thing is to get people to understand and believe in the value of protecting others as well as themselves.
Dumb take. If you’re vaxxed, you’ve protected yourself and it doesn’t matter what anyone else does.
Regardless, protecting yourself DOES protect others, so let the selfishness principle be our guide.
fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:
Get vaxxed, burn masks
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/end-mask-mandates-to-spur-vaccination-11620340525
This is actually the best and most normal idea. If people need protection they have it and should get the vaccine. They should not be relying on society hurting itself to protect them when the vaccine is now available. This is the point where we have to get back to normal and it is the job of those susceptible to protect themselves just like it is always our job to take care of our own health.
Rather put on a silly mask a few minutes a day than slam that crap into my body
Primo Numero Uno wrote:
[quote]jamese wrote:
The thing is to get people to understand and believe in the value of protecting others as well as themselves. A pandemic connotes worldwide. So it is also important to get countries (eg. Ours) to think in terms of protecting other countries as well. (There's the rub!)
It's a challenge in adulthood, and humanity.
This is a very uneducated take. There is no evidence people spread the virus at any meaningful level once vaccinated.
Hell. There is no evidence asymptomatic people are spreading thus virus.
It makes sense at first to say people have the ability now to get the vaccine too protect themselves, so drop the safety guidelines.
But people are still getting sick and going to the hospital.
We still need to think about looking out for the healthcare workers who still have to deal with those who refuse to protect themselves.
I really don’t want to wear the damn masks any more either.
Let’s pull together for low cases and hospitalizations.
Star wrote:
It makes sense at first to say people have the ability now to get the vaccine too protect themselves, so drop the safety guidelines.
But people are still getting sick and going to the hospital.
We still need to think about looking out for the healthcare workers who still have to deal with those who refuse to protect themselves.
I really don’t want to wear the damn masks any more either.
Let’s pull together for low cases and hospitalizations.
Dropping the guidelines won't change the rate people are getting sick though, but it may push more to get vaccinated and that would reduce hospitalizations quickly. I think that is the point.
And I don’t see how dropping the guidelines pushes more people to get vaccinated.
Most people that still haven’t been vaccinated would be fine with no mask guidelines.
And people can still voluntarily wear masks.
Hearing that other people are still getting sick isn’t going to make them change.
It hasn’t so far.
If it’s clear to people that vaccines lead to no masks, they should want the vaccine now so they have no masks tomorrow.
Or here is a thought: we could simply stop trying to "force" people to do anything and treat them like fricking ADULTS instead. How about that? There are no mask mandates in my state. I wear one when I must (when I'm teaching taekwondo). I am also vaccinated, because I chose to get it. I do not give the slightest thought to the vaccination status of others. Why the hell should I?
I had covid. I have antibodies. It was reported that people who have been vaccinated and not had covid were 8 times more likely to be infected by a variant than those who had covid and no vaccine. My body, my choice.
fully vaxxed, anti-masked wrote:
Get vaxxed, burn masks
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/end-mask-mandates-to-spur-vaccination-11620340525
The whole thing is exhausting as the goal posts keep moving. There's a large portion of Americans and our political overlords who are fully vaxxed but continue to wear masks and believe it is their responsibility to have the government force private individuals and companies mask up as well.
COVID, with its related variants, really can be used to push masking and social distancing for the forseeable future (I'm talking years). Government can argue that some people aren't getting or there may be variants that are resistant to the various vaccines and thus we must continue to "wear masks and social distance out of an abundance of caution". This is despite the fact that if you personally are vaxxed up and also choose to personally wear a mask the chances of you catching COVID and actually becoming sick, even if you are around people who are not masking or vaxxing, is so incredibly vanishingly small (somewhere around .001%). The point? You don't need to force people to vax up and mask up. If you yourself do both of these things (or even just vaccinate) there's literally almost a 0% chance you will even catch COVID let alone get sick.
Thankfully I'm in a state with no COVID restrictions current on the books and the ones that were on the books months ago were not enforced but still to see the goal posts to get back to normal constantly shift is exhausting.
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