The choice not to get vaccinated is non "anti-science," instead, it's pro-ethics

looks like he's a computer game now.

back then the game we would play for hours was- cannonball blitz.

it was my roommates computer. i had an apple 2 + . i think he had an apple 2 e .

Stoppit Smith wrote:

NOBODY speaks in the devastatingly deplorable way about the recklessness they want to see in society more than the ingrates and spoiled brats do here.

If they did at work, I'd likely not have a job

If they were reckless in stores, I'd have yelled at corporate.

But nobody across any other medium has ever spoken as awfully toward the spirit of safety as people on letsrun.

Ergo, I give what I get. You all reap what you sow.

Although abrasive, I give you props. You have a set of brass cajones and aren’t a dishonest, sniveling troll like most posters here. It is refreshing.

testosteronedoesit wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

NOBODY speaks in the devastatingly deplorable way about the recklessness they want to see in society more than the ingrates and spoiled brats do here.

If they did at work, I'd likely not have a job

If they were reckless in stores, I'd have yelled at corporate.

But nobody across any other medium has ever spoken as awfully toward the spirit of safety as people on letsrun.

Ergo, I give what I get. You all reap what you sow.

Although abrasive, I give you props. You have a set of brass cajones and aren’t a dishonest, sniveling troll like most posters here. It is refreshing.

As far as ingrates and spoiled brat trolls on LR go, Stoppit Smith tops the list.

Disney film Scholar wrote:

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Paradigms can shift any time given generational, socio-economic or sociological changes.

What Robin Hood symbolized then, according to you, has shifted because the overall manifestation of altruism in the current era has also shifted.

For that reason, I stick with my example.

No you are just repeating made up a new theme for Robin Hood because you are poorly educated and you want to rewrite facts to support your views. What the theme of a story was or a historical event was does not change over time. It meant what it meant.

So, what historical document regarding Robin Hood are you referring to in your interpretation?

Vernon Celli wrote:

testosteronedoesit wrote:

Although abrasive, I give you props. You have a set of brass cajones and aren’t a dishonest, sniveling troll like most posters here. It is refreshing.

As far as ingrates and spoiled brat trolls on LR go, Stoppit Smith tops the list.

Maybe. But he posts from the same registered name, shares his phone number, and makes no attempt to conceal his identity despite having strong opinions. Doesn’t sound like a troll to me which I find refreshing.

BuckleUp wrote:

I have spent my entire life working my asz off to finally achieve near-ideal metabolic health, which is the best defense against viral infections, and I am not going to risk all this by getting injected with crap that has not even passed human trials, for a bug with a 99.99% survival rate.

LOL.

Unkle’s presentation is entirely misleading. First off. Everyone in the study had Covid. It was a criteria for entry. The question was: “given that you have Covid, what kind of Covid is it?”

Amongst people who received the vaccine and tested positive for Covid, the prevalence of the South Africa variant AS COMPARED TO OTHER VARIANTS was higher.

This indicates that the vaccine probably does not protect as well vs the South Africa as it does vs some other variants. It does not mean that the vaccine doesn’t protect vs the South Africa variant.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

But anyway.

They can delete and/or sanction anything they want and you can all do what you want with what I say or said.

I can rest this evening knowing that again, I defended proper values and didn't budge.

It's called being a GOOD American.

Defending your values does not mean you are defending proper values. You are defending the totalitarian elite because you are delusional and think you following the rules that you had not hand in making is virtuous....you are just a lemming running to the sea to die for absolutely no reason at all; you are not and have not saved anyone. PS only a drunk person out themselves on a stupid forum. I suggested deleting this dumb thread to protect you in your idiotic drunken stupor. Imagine all of your kids parents seeing the post you are making? Do you think they would be proud of you and still want you anywhere near their kids....I wouldn't. You need to calm down and the Brojos need to protect you a little and delete this thread. I am sure you are a good person, but you are running yourself into a psychopathic toilet right now. BROJOS, delete this thread as this drunk dude is sabotaging himself.

Are you kidding me?

Since 1993, I have yelled at people, stated my strong opinions, challenged people, put my name, current number and other information out there. People have searched me on the internet ...on mylife, etc. I don't have Facebook, MySpace, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, Whatsapp or anything like that or even a linkedin.

But if you are going to call my openness about myself drunkenness, then I must be on a continuous bender night and day which would mean that every time I post, I'd be drunk.

Imagine a 28 year continuous bender. LOL.

Maybe for the first time in your life you have met someone direct, naive, stupid and honest enough to be who he is no matter where he is.

I don't care if the parents were proud of me outside of the quality care I provide their children.

What you are attempting to do is create an unfounded reputation for me outside of the parameters of what you know.

I'm direct, hotheaded, a loudmouth and off the chain, and if I get mad, you see it all.

And I'm good with that.

And I won't change.

I'm sorry you deal with drunks who are like this but yeah, that is not me.

P.S. If I was mad in the daytime on a weekday and I were drunk, there's no way it would wear off completely by work time in the very early afternoon.

Food for thought.

Altruism is not a bad thing.

But, your premise is slightly wrong. Its not altruism, its prosocial duties. There are numerous examples of things in society where an individual takes on a greater risk or negative for the benefit of a harmoniously functioning society.

This is closest to utilitarianism, which is one of the best moral philosophies around.

Not everything altruistic is a "correct" decison from the standpoint of utilitarianism.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Maybe for the first time in your life you have met someone stupid

And I'm good with that.

And I won't change.

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did you ever watch the dog whisperer? and some hothead dog comes to dog camp. and what do all the other dogs instantly do? do you sincerely see your self as more than a cartoon character? have you ever changed an opinion with your baseless threats?

I see my opinions as valid and the fervor with which I put them through is justified.

You see, let's be completely honest...full disclosure.

I appreciate the comment of the person who appreciated my honesty and forthright way of presenting it (though admittedly abrasive)

But what am I responding to? Recipes for Lemon Meringue pie???

No. I'm responding to emotionally charged topics: racism, sexism, appearance discrimination, weight shaming, anti-vax, anti -mask, people who follow the rules as sheep, people being called weak because they are careful, tearing down people like Mary Cain, etc.

Most of that subtext is approached in the most disrespectful way, so, accordingly, I'm going to respond congruent to the reaction I have.

So if you want the tl;dr version: if and only if you and your buddies here tone it down here will I tone it down.

Lol. 30 minutes later, i knew you would not take that on.

Why?

It forces some of you to analyze your own antagonist attitudes as a part of the whole.

When they labeled Dumbo's mother a "Mad Elephant," was she truly wrong to explode ?

OP is a Kremlin agent spreading disinformation designed to destroy the United States.

re stopit

nah, lunch break and bored of thread. probably back through in a few hours. i am convinced your method is entirely incompetent.

the OP2 wrote:

I’m making a rational, self interested decision not to get vaccinated. I am not at risk of Covid, so a vaccine is of no benefit to me, and the possibility of adverse effects makes the risks outweigh the benefits. I am not going to expose myself to the risk of harm unnecessarily for the sake of protecting others who are vulnerable when they could vaccinate themselves. My view is the rational one, and because it is in line with reality, it actually has a better results for everyone, including the vulnerable. Liberalism means you believe in reason and individualism, and reject the arbitrary claims of authoritarians who call you a science denier if you reject their authority and the divine right the claim to make your medical decisions for you.

The decision may be rational with respect to your self-interest but what you have described is the well-known free-rider problem. Would you deny that COVID herd immunity is a positive externality? And that vaccination meets the standards of a public good that is nonrivalrous and nonexcludable?

Here are some examples:

If the country was at war it would be in your self-interests to avoid service in the military because the risk of dying would be greater than if you don’t serve. Yet you will benefit from the service of others who will bear the risk for national security.

Dumping your mattress or trash on the side of the road saves you the trouble of having to dispose of it properly but is an eyesore for others.

Burning wood in your fireplace benefits you by keeping your house warm and lowering electricity costs but pollutes the air for others.

Using Wikipedia while relying on the contributions of others to keep the site going.

Smoking wherever or whenever you want benefits someone with a nicotine addiction but it’s a negative externality because it adversely affects others.

Declining to receive the COVID vaccination shares common characteristics with all of these examples of free-riders. The issue could be resolved somewhat by incentives and/or penalties/exclusions. Incentives could include tax breaks, or stimulant payments for those that choose to vaccinate. Alternatively, those that choose not to vaccinate could be excluded from flying, large public events, attending school, etc. Of course, the politics of some of these solutions probably make them unfeasible.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

I see my opinions as valid and the fervor with which I put them through is justified.

You see, let's be completely honest...full disclosure.

I appreciate the comment of the person who appreciated my honesty and forthright way of presenting it (though admittedly abrasive)

But what am I responding to? Recipes for Lemon Meringue pie???

No. I'm responding to emotionally charged topics: racism, sexism, appearance discrimination, weight shaming, anti-vax, anti -mask, people who follow the rules as sheep, people being called weak because they are careful, tearing down people like Mary Cain, etc.

Most of that subtext is approached in the most disrespectful way, so, accordingly, I'm going to respond congruent to the reaction I have.

So if you want the tl;dr version: if and only if you and your buddies here tone it down here will I tone it down.

But if you admittedly know you are stupid, why are you so sure your opinions are valid? Why be so angry with people who see things differently? Nobody is threatening you for having an opinion, but you seem ok with threatening others for having one that differs form you; are you preparing yourself to fight for the Morlock's army up to the point where they eat your brain? You are a confusing one at best, but I wish you good luck in life as you will need it.

There have been a few thousand cases of people with the vaccine getting infected again. A young person not getting the vaccine is not putting anyone at risk. Anyone who want the vaccine can now get it. Time for everyone to stop making excuses and get back to life. There are always risks in life. For once the Covid crazies need to be ones who learn to live with others who don't share their views in society.

the bubble man theme is lit wrote:

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Science is the systemic use of logic to discover new knowledge.

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"Systemic"?