13 year old boy shot dead by police

The Unkle wrote:

1. Zero video evidence to show he had a gun earlier.

This is not the NCAA basketball tourney. The officer cannot call a timeout and go to the sidelines to check the super slow motion HD video from 18 different angles to determine the exact moment the gun left his hand like they check to see if a shot left a player's fingers 0.1 second before the clock strikes zero. But he definitely had it less than one second before the officer fired. Someone on TV said they determined this image is from 0.8 seconds prior to the shooting. Officer is not at fault at all.

and another coach wrote:

I really wish the parents could be held legally responsible in some way for this situation. If parents new they could be held responsible for the actions of their minor children you might actually see more responsible parenting taking place.

So in this case you want the parents to be held responsible

But in sandy hook, where the kid took his moms gun, she’s not responsible at all

Can’t just have gun control for black people

govLie wrote:

and another coach wrote:

I really wish the parents could be held legally responsible in some way for this situation. If parents new they could be held responsible for the actions of their minor children you might actually see more responsible parenting taking place.

So in this case you want the parents to be held responsible

But in sandy hook, where the kid took his moms gun, she’s not responsible at all

Can’t just have gun control for black people

Lolol I can't tell if this is trolling or not but, yes the sandy hook mother should be held responsible. If you have a kid, who's hopped up on a bunch of psych meds, hide your f*cking gun! In fact, all of the parents of school shooters be held responsible for their sh!tty parenting - they always come out on the news like "oh I had no idea!". Yeah no sh!t, that's the problem. I could not imagine being able to hide guns and bombs and whatnot in my room when I was a kid like these kids do.

You trying to turn this into a race thing so that the black parents aren't held responsible is pure stupidity though. Yes, if your 13 year old child is running around with adults shooting people, you're at fault as a parent no matter what race you are. White liberals will continue to reinforce this behavior by calling the black people victims when something bad inevitably happens, all so they can keep virtue signaling. Sad!

govLie wrote:

So in this case you want the parents to be held responsible

But in sandy hook, where the kid took his moms gun, she’s not responsible at all

Kind of hard to stop someone when you have a few bullets put in your head while you sleep.

Now if she didn't properly lock up her guns, then yes she should be held partly responsible. Of course, since she was also murdered, it is a mute point.

and another coach wrote:

I really wish the parents could be held legally responsible in some way for this situation. If parents new they could be held responsible for the actions of their minor children you might actually see more responsible parenting taking place.

You mean like this father and his 8-year old daughter. I wonder how many white parents train their eight year olds this way:

Chicago is a f'ing hole wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

1. Zero video evidence to show he had a gun earlier.

This is not the NCAA basketball tourney. The officer cannot call a timeout and go to the sidelines to check the super slow motion HD video from 18 different angles to determine the exact moment the gun left his hand like they check to see if a shot left a player's fingers 0.1 second before the clock strikes zero. But he definitely had it less than one second before the officer fired. Someone on TV said they determined this image is from 0.8 seconds prior to the shooting. Officer is not at fault at all.

https://i1.wp.com/noqreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/CBS-splices-gun-in-Adam-Toledos-hand-out-of-police-shooting-video.jpg?resize=750%2C375&ssl=1

WE all can see the video. The 13 year old boy stopped and held his hands up as instructed and clearly had nothing in them and the cop shot him. And no, he did not definitely have a gun a second earlier and it does not matter anyway. Just pathetic you defend this cop's actions

jesse obama wrote:

What? Sorry for the kids parents?

What kind of parent let's their 13 year old out at 2:30am?

This is getting ridiculous, with parents like this no wonder cities like Chicago etc. are poop holes.

I thought he was out at 3:30 AM and had run away from home. Gangs are dispicable. They give guns to kids and use them as drug mules because they know they will be turned back to the streets quickly since they are minors. The kid had a gun and in a split second tossed it before getting shot. Unfortunately he waited too long to toss it. A freeze frame is one thing. Reality is another. The cop immediately rendered aid, I don’t see any intent. Chicago is a war zone, police seize over 6000 illegal guns a year. I can understand why a cop wouldn’t wait for someone to start shooting at them.

On the other hand this is bad;

In a court hearing Saturday, a Cook County prosecutor provided more details about the shooting, saying an officer confronted Adam at an opening in a fence. The officer asked Adam to show his hands and the teenager, who stood with his left side to the officer, lowered his right hand.

When the officer ordered Adam to “drop it,” he turned to the officer with the gun in his right hand and the officer shot him, the prosecutor said.

The Cook County state’s attorney’s office didn’t mention Saturday that Adam’s hands were raised when he was shot.

On Thursday, the office said the prosecutor “failed to fully inform himself before speaking in court. Errors like that cannot happen and this has been addressed with the individual involved. The video speaks for itself.”

This shows the police, or their representatives being so lacksadaisical they dont even care to get their facts straight before going public.

source;

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2021/4/15/22383392/adam-toledo-shooting-video-released-chicago-police-bodycam

I find it fascinating how people get focused in on the "small" story. Their perspective is so intensely zoomed in on this one event that they miss what's actually happening.

Urban decay. Violent gangs. Broken homes. Black on black violence spiking. Loose gun laws. Policy that influence police culture.

These important narratives led directly to this happening. And all people focus on is whether or not this kids had his hands up. Even the narrative behind this isn't discussed. Why was he running around a bad neighborhood at night with a firearm? Why did he just shoot 8 bullets at a car driving by? Why didn't he lay down on the ground with his hands behind his head?

People choose their tiny little micronarrtive and cling to it with a death grip.

govLie wrote:

and another coach wrote:

I really wish the parents could be held legally responsible in some way for this situation. If parents new they could be held responsible for the actions of their minor children you might actually see more responsible parenting taking place.

So in this case you want the parents to be held responsible

But in sandy hook, where the kid took his moms gun, she’s not responsible at all

Can’t just have gun control for black people

That’s accurate. Compare the parents of a 13 year old to the parent of an adult. Then, turn to race instead of facts.

govLie wrote:

and another coach wrote:

I really wish the parents could be held legally responsible in some way for this situation. If parents new they could be held responsible for the actions of their minor children you might actually see more responsible parenting taking place.

So in this case you want the parents to be held responsible

But in sandy hook, where the kid took his moms gun, she’s not responsible at all

Can’t just have gun control for black people

I dont believe anyone thought the Sandy Hook mother wasn't responsible. Living in a home with a mentally ill son whole maintaining an unsecured arsenal, is unconscionable.

"While"

Arm chair police experts won't want to hear this but this is the correct assessment of the event. It's great to hear a bunch of skinny runners who have never been in a situation where a gun was pointed, or potentially could be, at them but know exactly how it should be handled. Whatever, go for a long run.

kid complied and was shot for doing so. a lot of the police killing of blacks is less race oriented than it is completely inept police work. we have a 26 yr vet police 'trainer' who can't tell the difference between a taser and a police pistol and a cop or orders a suspect to drop his weapon and then shoots him when he does.

just bad police work.

agent p wrote:

Chicago is a f'ing hole wrote:

There were 748 murders in Chicago in 2020. Where is the outrage?

Arm chair police experts won't want to hear this but this is the correct assessment of the event. It's great to hear a bunch of skinny runners who have never been in a situation where a gun was pointed, or potentially could be, at them but know exactly how it should be handled. Whatever, go for a long run.

Let's not forget about the 2,000 or so overdose deaths in Chicago last year as well. Given his ethnicity (hispanic, not black) it is likely he was becoming part of CJNG (Jalisco New Generation Cartel). They use kids as lookouts, mules, sicarios, etc. and the guy who was with him gave him the gun because he is a minor and would be flipped back onto the streets right away. The average age of sicarios (assassins) these gangs use is close to 15 (because that is when they are most easily influenced and do not have a complete grasp of their actions). They give them video games, drugs, girls and status. Just because he is a teenager, does not mean he is not dangerous.

Here is a big picture of what is going on in Chicago:

Here is detail of how CJNG trains their sicarios involving decapitations and cannibalism:

Deflecting attention to the cop is emboldening the criminal organizations that are thriving in the defund the police movement and the open border policy that Biden is enacting. Do you feel safer with the police defunded?

comedyre1i3f 2 wrote:

Deflecting attention

You're the one deflecting ya goober.

govLie wrote:

and another coach wrote:

I really wish the parents could be held legally responsible in some way for this situation. If parents new they could be held responsible for the actions of their minor children you might actually see more responsible parenting taking place.

So in this case you want the parents to be held responsible

But in sandy hook, where the kid took his moms gun, she’s not responsible at all

Can’t just have gun control for black people

Holy bleep. THAT is what you extrapolate from my post?

To be clear, ALL parents of ALL colors and ALL backgrounds should be held legally responsible for the actions of their minor children.

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