Hutchins to BYU

malmo wrote:

Ezrun wrote:

Use the word Draconian (or lowercase draconian) to describe laws or rules that are really harsh and repressive. In ancient Athens, Draco was a guy who made some seriously strict laws. So rules that are too restrictive — or just plain unfair — are called Draconian.

Seems like you don't know the meaning! Saying you can't be sleeveless and wear a tank top, or have lots of ear piercings, or be barefoot on grass, is clearly overly restrictive by all normal societal standards

Yeah it's true that it's People's Choice to go there and they can leave, but it clearly fits the label of draconian

Dress codes do not meet the definitive criteria of "excessively harsh, severe or cruel." You need to learn how to use a dictionary.

Draconian is an adjective. And you can attach it to any noun such as a dress code. Someone said that the dress code is Draconian, meaning strict or harsh

In normal society saying that you have to cover your arms and you can't be without a sleeve is strict

Saying that you can't be barefoot on grass if you're hanging out with your friends and just laying around is strict!

Saying that you can only have one or two ear piercings is strict.

Just the idea of regulating someone's dress Beyond normal societal standards is by definition strict

Draconian is being used to describe the type of dress code. It's strict compared to most other colleges

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FastTuohy wrote:

Not going away wrote:

Really? So those schools require dresses, skirts and shorts to all be knee-length or longer? These schools don't allow more than 1 ear piercing? Not even a simple double pierce, which is extremely common? No, these are not normal dress codes, especially not for college. Unless you are Mormon BYU will be a very restrictive environment. To say otherwise makes it clear you don't know much about BYU.

I am just wondering. Take away running, and is this a school she would even consider?

It’s truly bizarre to me that anyone not Mormon would go there. I stayed at the same hotel BYU was in for a meet once and each of the women was eating with her husband instead of like the team eating breakfast together.

If you are LDS then the lifestyle is no different then the one you have been living so no big deal. Noone goes to BYU without the willingness to live by its rules.

It’s truly bizarre to me that anyone not Mormon would go there.

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Was just about to write the same. Why would you? Seems completely bizarre to me.

bambam wrote:

It’s truly bizarre to me that anyone not Mormon would go there.

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Was just about to write the same. Why would you? Seems completely bizarre to me.

So is it "bizarre" to go to a Service Academy? The lifestyle at BYU is extremely relaxed compared to the lifestyle at the academies. Wearing uniforms all day, mandatory meals, routine room checks for cleanliness, uniform inspections, wake-up/lights out when you are told, etc.

Maybe she is religious and lives a structured lifestyle and wants to be around similar minded people for the next four years.

It's a church school! if you don't agree with the standards then don't go there. No one is forcing you to go there. BYU gets enough applicants. If you don't like the rules you are not going to get in. I can almost guarantee that the students at the school do not feel oppressed. It is mostly populated by church members because they already live these standards.

Most Americans have no self discipline nor moral standards. They hate people who do.

Back to Hutchins. Remember her? It was a thread about Jenna.

It was an unexpected choice. Sounds like she made a strong connection to Taylor. If she has designs on going pro; Oregon, Stanford, Colorado, Arkansas and a host of other schools have a longer list of females that have gone pro after school.

Does anyone know of any recent BYU female distance runners that have gone pro? (A serious question, not being snarky).

Yeah, if you aren't Mormon it seems like an odd choice. I get the team is good, but that is a huge lifestyle tradeoff if if you don't align with the school's religious views.

Maybe 10-15 years ago I went through Provo on a Sunday on a roundtrip and it was bizarre. I tried to find a place to grab lunch, and literally nothing was open. Not even McDonalds. I had to hop back on the freeway and drive a few exits down to Orem to find an IHOP that was open.

What YSA said

Interesting Choice wrote:

Yeah, if you aren't Mormon it seems like an odd choice. I get the team is good, but that is a huge lifestyle tradeoff if if you don't align with the school's religious views.

Maybe 10-15 years ago I went through Provo on a Sunday on a roundtrip and it was bizarre. I tried to find a place to grab lunch, and literally nothing was open. Not even McDonalds. I had to hop back on the freeway and drive a few exits down to Orem to find an IHOP that was open.

You don't have to align with religious views to go there (doctrine and such). You do need to align with standards of conduct though which are compatable with many religions. Those standards are actually an attraction to like minded folks. If you don't want to keep those standards, you should not go there. I was glad to attend there and appreciated those standards.

I remember you !

Weren't you in the Rex Lee Library kissing the guy who sold trinkets ?

YSA wrote:

blamb61 wrote:

You don't have to align with religious views to go there (doctrine and such). You do need to align with standards of conduct though which are compatable with many religions. Those standards are actually an attraction to like minded folks. If you don't want to keep those standards, you should not go there. I was glad to attend there and appreciated those standards.

I remember you !

Weren't you in the Rex Lee Library kissing the guy who sold trinkets ?

Sexy Rex!!!

Opinionated guy wrote:It also said that their famous BYU football quarterbacks (Wilson, Young, Detmer, McMahon) did NOT serve missions. This all leads me to believe a mission is optional and that this young woman will not have to serve a two year mission unless she chooses to do so.

You do realize that Jim McMahon is NOT LDS and therefore would not be serving a mission, right?

I'm not sure of Jenna's religious affiliation. I would personally not choose to go to BYU since I'm not a Mormon.

I totally get Coach Taylor's appeal. It's true that not to many BYU runners have gone pro (to the poster above) but she hasn't been there that long. Many of these ladies have the times to get pro contracts when they graduate. They certainly will.

I'm also interested in her choice to graduate early and move to Florida? To train with a health and wellness coach? Idk. She lost a year of high school, why lose more?

If she's Catholic, I applaud her for steering clear of Notre Dame, which is anti-Catholic thanks to "the late Father Ted".

BYU has become a strange combination of liberal wokeness and book of Mormon doctrine. The coaches, athletes, and support staff, however, are as good as you'll find anywhere. Coach Eyestone is an accomplished thespian, crooner, musician, and standup comedian. Who wouldn't want a head coach like that? The transfer portal is always available if the BOM classes bring her down.

She'll get off to a great start.

She’s not Mormon ?

And she plans to graduate HS early in December and move to Florida to train with Julie Stackhouse before heading to BYU.