Hocker- 1500-3000 - beats any NCAA'er in history in a RACE. What about 5K?

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3 years ago 04/04/2021 1:49pm EDT

re: aztec the moronic

aztec the moronic wrote:
Hocker would SMOKE Ches from 1500-5k. Ches might win in a 10k.
Ches' kick is overrated. His form was crappy. When challenged, his form breaks down even more and he just dies.

Yeah but a guy who is 20s slower isn't going to be challenging you. He is going to be sucking wind 100m back.

Obviously the question here is Hocker in sub 1315 shape now or is he still in like 1330 shape and just a lot better at the shorter stuff. Until he shows up and runs a 5k, we are guessing. Eventually Hocker will show up in a 332/1310 race and we can see what he is like when pushed. Right now the potential seems limitless. When he hits the bell in 1210 we will learn if he can kick off that pace or if he fades when the fun starts.

3 years ago 04/04/2021 2:14pm EDT

re: yup...........

yup........... wrote:
yessirskiii wrote:
That’s the 1 metric in track and field. Yes you can.
I mean you can't **JUST** go by PR's.

I'd take the 13:00 lawi lalang over anyone. If you for some reason don't count that. Then the 13:09 collegiate record one. Definitely the best imo

3 years ago 04/04/2021 2:42pm EDT

re: yup...........

Remember the clown spikes add 1 second per 600m. He's just a 3:53 miler and 1:48 guy. Big whoop, kyle merber at his prime would have beaten honker

3 years ago 04/04/2021 3:39pm EDT

re: flccfinalistt

flccfinalistt wrote:
Remember the clown spikes add 1 second per 600m. He's just a 3:53 miler and 1:48 guy. Big whoop, kyle merber at his prime would have beaten honker

In June after all teams have run, we will see how much the curves for the top 60 or so runners have shifted.

3 years ago 04/04/2021 5:47pm EDT

re: ddidididid

Jim Ryun had 1:44/3:33/3:51 prs running for KU by age 20. He also clocked a 46.9 quarter in a relay split as a freshman.

I think Ryun would do ok against Hocker from 800-Mile on any surface in any shoes.

3 years ago 04/04/2021 9:35pm EDT

re: twilight zone veteran

twilight zone veteran wrote:
Jim Ryun had 1:44/3:33/3:51 prs running for KU by age 20. He also clocked a 46.9 quarter in a relay split as a freshman.
I think Ryun would do ok against Hocker from 800-Mile on any surface in any shoes.

I came here to echo this. He ran 351 on dirt, in terrible shoes, with a 53s final lap. I don't know what that is worth by today's standards, 345? Hocker is great, the next big thing, etc but he would be an underdog against ryun.

3 years ago 04/05/2021 9:18am EDT

re: dancing knees

dancing knees wrote:
He still hasn’t beat Teare head to head in a 1500. Not saying he couldn’t, but it seems like everyone is forgetting how quality Cooper is

no, but he did beat Teare in the 3000m, which you'd think Teare's strength gives him the advantage but...

not to mention Cole had more races in his legs (mile prelim day before and mile final immediately before)

3 years ago 04/05/2021 10:03am EDT

re: pay attention

pay attention wrote:
dancing knees wrote:
He still hasn’t beat Teare head to head in a 1500. Not saying he couldn’t, but it seems like everyone is forgetting how quality Cooper is
no, but he did beat Teare in the 3000m, which you'd think Teare's strength gives him the advantage but...
not to mention Cole had more races in his legs (mile prelim day before and mile final immediately before)

Teare though did the work of leading it out while Cole just needed to hang on and kick the last 50....

To some extend I am more excited by Cooper this year cause I think he will run the 5000m. A 350 5k guy to me is just a lot more exciting than a 146/1500m guy. Now this is more is a 2021 thing. Over the next couple years Cole probably has a bit more of an upside (chances to run 329) as he is years younger

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