People calling coronavirus vaccine "miracle of science"

Meh, it's pretty impressive.

We got lucky that the spike protein was such an effective antigen.

There's lots of immunological considerations besides "encode part of the virus" than I don't fully understand.

There was also decades of ground work from academia to allow such rapid prototyping.

Look up the lab that discovered the way to stabilize the spike protein in it's open conformation (for structural biology at the time). Likely very important for proper immune recognition but a pretty random project in isolation.

Lol. That's only to the moron libs of US and a few key western countries.

It's nice to see many countries are absolutely ignoring all this stupidity. Cousin came back from Argentina recently laughing and surprised that NYers are still locked down and in hyper fear with double masking outside. It's so sad to see people this way but nice to know there are people living normally and completely ignoring the nonsense. I didn't fully believe cousin at first with Argentina but yep, found a couple month old video and everything open as normal and not one single person is wearing a mask. Not even on a bus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akotkHJ5h9U

It’s both. And it’s still a trial. Have fun with your experimental drug. I’ll wait til it’s been through rigorous testing and approved by FDA

The 1969 UCLA invention of the internet and 1965 UCLA invention of distributed/cloud computers made it possible to gather 100 billion of records and reduce duplicates and tag dead people.

Harambe wrote:

Meh, it's pretty impressive.

We got lucky that the spike protein was such an effective antigen.

There's lots of immunological considerations besides "encode part of the virus" than I don't fully understand.

There was also decades of ground work from academia to allow such rapid prototyping.

Look up the lab that discovered the way to stabilize the spike protein in it's open conformation (for structural biology at the time). Likely very important for proper immune recognition but a pretty random project in isolation.

This coronavirus called SARS-COV2 was an easy virus to develop a vaccine against.

- The body defeats the virus 99/100 without vaccine

- The vaccine just stmulate the immune system to create antibody before the infection and massvely slow down virus replication

But it's unclear how long the antibodies will stay once the virus is eliminated. And it's unclear if the antibodies will work against new variants.

So far this virus has been an easy to beat virus for vaccine makers.

This entire thing has been a massive sales campaign based in fear.

The virus was always surging, soaring, spiking, raging, lurking, even stalking.

There were epicenters and super-spreaders and we were shown scary numbers 24/7 on many tv stations (scrolling across the bottom).

If we did not do what we were told we were killing granny.

And now the CDC Director (from the usual suspects) is warning of "impending doom".

These people don't do subtle.

They are long time practitioners of The Big Lie.

Baba Yaga wrote:

- The vaccine just stmulate the immune system to create antibody before the infection and massvely slow down virus replication

That's literally what vaccines do. Buy your definition all vaccines are easy.

But it's unclear how long the antibodies will stay once the virus is eliminated. And it's unclear if the antibodies will work against new variants.

So far this virus has been an easy to beat virus for vaccine makers.

The mRNA vaccines seem to show strong protection against common variants.

The possibilities of mRNA technology are pretty exciting. The fact that they have found a way to manipulate genes without causing significant adverse immune responses (a side effect of previous attempts at mRNA innovations) opens the door for tons of treatments. It is absolutely one of the amazing technologies that will come from this adversity.

Creating an effective vaccine without needing a sample of the virus is pretty amazing to me. "Just send us the genetic code...we'll do the rest".

Why would a vaccine be a miracle of science? Why wouldn't a treatment be a miracle of science? Why is there no research into treatment? Why were the treatments used last year completely shunned? We can do better.

Bro... there are/were thousands of clinical trails to repurpose drugs with mild success (remdesivir, Regeneron's mAb cocktail). Pharma companies screened all their giant libraries against the key viral proteins too. Antivirals are HARD. Preventative measures are surely better than treatments!

fake times wrote:

Why would a vaccine be a miracle of science? Why wouldn't a treatment be a miracle of science? Why is there no research into treatment? Why were the treatments used last year completely shunned? We can do better.

At first we were told that a vaccine will take years and be only 50% effective. Then, when early vaccine trials showed promise in late summer / early fall, we were told it would be too hard to manufacture and distribute and keep frozen etc. And when the vaccine rollout was actually underway, we were told variants might make it obsolete, but that doesn't seem to be the case. And we discovered the first dose alone is at least temporarily effective at preventing severe cases. Meanwhile other treatments that showed promise were duds or mildly effective at best.

2600 bro wrote:

Bro... there are/were thousands of clinical trails to repurpose drugs with mild success (remdesivir, Regeneron's mAb cocktail). Pharma companies screened all their giant libraries against the key viral proteins too. Antivirals are HARD.

Preventative measures are surely better than treatments!

fake times wrote:

Why would a vaccine be a miracle of science? Why wouldn't a treatment be a miracle of science? Why is there no research into treatment? Why were the treatments used last year completely shunned? We can do better.

Actually, this is the best...

Vaccines provide herd immunity - exactly!

im in trouble wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Bro... there are/were thousands of clinical trails to repurpose drugs with mild success (remdesivir, Regeneron's mAb cocktail). Pharma companies screened all their giant libraries against the key viral proteins too. Antivirals are HARD.

Preventative measures are surely better than treatments!

Actually, this is the best...

https://nypost.com/2021/03/28/amish-group-could-reach-covid-herd-immunity-health-official/

The Unkle wrote:

And now the CDC Director (from the usual suspects) is warning of "impending doom".

These people don't do subtle.

They are long time practitioners of The Big Lie.

Oh My DOG! You're Right! You've figured it out!

THEY are trying to control US!

RUN!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! IT'S YOUR ONLY HOPE!!!!!

Theyre recalling some or putting restrictions on what type of people can not get them because theres side effect risks. Then they don't even work properly, useless for certain people. They still get covid. Many old people have died soon after getting the shot, crickets in the news though. Go figure. Yet they search high and low for a young person getting sick or dying from covid. Natrative manipulation in full effect. They'll continue to push for lockdowns to kill the economy and individual livelihoods by the thousands.

im in trouble wrote:

It's nice to see many countries are absolutely ignoring all this stupidity. Cousin came back from Argentina recently laughing and surprised that NYers are still locked down and in hyper fear with double masking outside.

1) Population density of NYC is twice that of Buenos Aires.

2) We’re not in hyper fear here in NY. We just don’t whine about having to wear a mask. It’s not that big of a problem wearing one til the majority gets vaccinated. It’s a piece of fabric.

Other places can laugh all they want, who cares? Italy, Germany, France, and other nations have had to lock down all over again. Not a big deal to do ur part.