College Sprinters Who Will Make the USA Team to Tokyo 2021

Just as I suspected you don't know the history surrounding white sprinters who run the 100/200.

Watch how this goes with Boling, remember.....that Whatley dude told me about this.

Whatley wrote:

Just as I suspected you don't know the history surrounding white sprinters who run the 100/200.

Watch how this goes with Boling, remember.....that Whatley dude told me about this.

And when he goes sub 9.9, You go ahead and venmo me a dollar.

You arn'tgetting this, not talking about times, i'm talking about success at majors. He will be more successful in the 200m than the 100, history has proven this with white sprinters if they run both sprints. After Georgia expect to see Boling become a 200m cat, not saying he never runs a 100m but it will be rare.

I didn't say anything about that. I'm simply telling you, Boling will eventually run an official wind legal sub 9.9.

History also tells us being a sub 9.9 guy, in a general sense, doesn't get a medal handed to you. So I'm not making predictions about that. I'm just telling you, Boling will go sub 9.9 at one point or another, and do it wind legally.

vshhdbyfhhv wrote:

Trevor Bassitt of D2 Ashland University went 49.34 in the 400h for the win at Raleigh Relays today. He might have a shot of making the team. Went 45.2 or 45.3 in the open 400 indoors.

Thanks for this. I wasn't aware. I'll keep my eyes on him from now on.

High schooler Jaylen Slade just beat Trayvon Bromell running 20.27 for the win. Slade does have to learn to get out of the blocks though. He is losing time stumbling. One of these days, he's going to fall flat on his face.

vshhdbyfhhv wrote:

Trevor Bassitt of D2 Ashland University went 49.34 in the 400h for the win at Raleigh Relays today. He might have a shot of making the team. Went 45.2 or 45.3 in the open 400 indoors.

Bassit also won the 110h in 13.5 I’m wondering whether he’s a lock for second at the US trials?

As for the 110 hurdles, I’m having trouble imagining a collegiate making it with Holloway and Roberts up front and plenty of veterans in the mix

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

Empirical evidence has proven that the grind of the college competition has a massively deleterious impact on athletes when it is time for global competition. Thus it plays an overarchingly massive importance. How many college athletes who had world class times made it to Worlds in 2019. How many athletes who made it to worlds medalled? I can only think of 2.

Women 200M

Men 110H

Yeah, just ask Clayton Murphy and Bryce Hoppel. I don't mean that just to be a smart ass, I think if coaches are smart they can balance both. If the athlete is special enough, like Murphy was, they can win a title without fully peaking and be able to extend their fitness all the way through the summer. The coach just has to periodize correctly and not overrace the athlete, just like what happened to Fred Kerley his senior year.

Let it Rupp wrote:

NYDCRunner1 wrote:

Empirical evidence has proven that the grind of the college competition has a massively deleterious impact on athletes when it is time for global competition. Thus it plays an overarchingly massive importance. How many college athletes who had world class times made it to Worlds in 2019. How many athletes who made it to worlds medalled? I can only think of 2.

Women 200M

Men 110H

Yeah, just ask Clayton Murphy and Bryce Hoppel. I don't mean that just to be a smart ass, I think if coaches are smart they can balance both. If the athlete is special enough, like Murphy was, they can win a title without fully peaking and be able to extend their fitness all the way through the summer. The coach just has to periodize correctly and not overrace the athlete, just like what happened to Fred Kerley his senior year.

I agree if coaches are smart they can balance both, but this has not been the case has it? It's all about school competition. I can understand focusing on school competitions in the years when there are no global championships. But in the years when there are global championships, those championships should be the focus. Over racing has happened to Fred Kerley, it happened to Sha'carri Richardson, it happened to Michael Norman and a whole host of others. Sadly it will continue. ..

Terrance Laird just ran 19.81 this weekend. A fantastic time that would have gained him a medal if not a gold in many Olympics. It will be interesting to see what time he runs at Nationals in June.

I have a working theory that Brutal/Whatley/Avante is, at present, a bot. The AI was patterned on Brutal's distinctive style and content over many years - his weird racial tics ("white guys can't sprint; they should all move to the 200, 400, 800, etc."), his refusal or inability to engage in critical reasoning, the typos, the pet names ("look, guy..." etc), his detours into pre-electric blues (which is frankly pretty enjoyable), his random lists involving the NFL and college football, his certitude that the key to running a great 100 is running a great 400, etc. I think he retired from his two-decade long track message board hobby at some point and now lets the bot do the heavy lifting for him.

This is a comforting thought, because when you run across someone telling you that Matt Shirvington would have been better off at the 200, or dropping a list of the top 10 fastest Oakland/LA Raiders running backs, you don't think "wow, this is a real person wasting his time on this still."

HA!

Building off that, and without a LONG history with his posting style, then the bot arguably passes the Turing test a little strong than most. But I DO like this hot take.

Can we even talk about the amount of copypasta going on with his posts? A bot does explain a lot of that away, I can't deny that.

Anytime I take a strong stance on anything it is backed up with a ton of experience. It's never been....white sprinters should all run the 200 ....at all. it's about.....if a white sprinter runs the 100 AND the 200, his best event will become the 200.....history has proven this.

Never been about 100/400 try .....the better your 200 the better your 400 and vice versa and history has proven that.

Football/blues historian, have it 100% covered. My pet that football/track connecton.

I talked about the 200m being where Boling will end up back in his HS days, so where does he win his first NCAA title.....200m. In a recent interview he talks about the 200m being his best and favorite event. He talked about his 100m speed and his 400m strength, meeting at 200m.

Once out on his own I doubt he messes with the 100m anymore, Now it;s scoring points for Georgia so relays/100/200/long jump.

Why am I arguing with a bot?

Your advice to each of these guys would have been to stop running the 100 and focus on the 200:

Matt Shirvington: 10.03 ; 20.45

Julian Reus: 10.01; 20.29

Simone Collio: 10.06; 20.84

Filipo Tortu: 9.99; 20.34

Nic Macrozonaris: 10.03; 20.85

Josh Ross: 10.08; 20.53

Richard Kilty: 10.01; 20.34

Rohan Browning: 10.05; 20.71

Trae Williams: 10.10; 20.83

Josh Clark: 10.15; 20.88

Jake Doran: 10.15; 20.76

Jack Hale: 10.12; 20.93

Here's what WILL happen: Bolling's 100 meter personal best will be roughly equal in quality to his 200 meter personal best. Which event will he see more success over? Well, that depends on his competitors in each - if, for instance, he runs a 9.90 and 19.80 this year, but makes the USA team in the 100 but not the 200, it might be largely because Coleman is out, there are some injuries, etc. But those contingent possibilities have little to do with what his best event actually *is*

Dude, I own my opinions, while you hide, why not register? Cool the bot BS, ok?

Christophe LeMaitre

Mel Patton

Eric Liddell

Larry Questad

Stefano Tilli

Manfred Ommer

Mark Lutz

Pietro Mennea

Livio Burruti

Hal Davis

Bruno Hortelano

Mike Agostini

Hans Joachim Zenk

Ramil Guliyev

Kenteris

Forest Beatty

Kevin Little

Olaf Prenzler

.....all proving my point.

Look at medals won in the Olympics/Worlds and you will find more white sprinters medaling in the 200 than the 100, more world ranked at 200m that 100m.

We saw a white sprinter win an NCAA sprint recently, yep......200, not the 60.

Once away from the NCAA we will see Boling making more of a dent on the world stage at 200m not the 100m, that is a guarantee.

By the way.....

NCAA sprinters have made Olympic/World teams as far back as it goes.

This, long NCAA season thing, nay! If they have the talent they will be there.

Whatley wrote:

By the way.....

NCAA sprinters have made Olympic/World teams as far back as it goes.

This, long NCAA season thing, nay! If they have the talent they will be there.

Only because that was only who could compete in Worlds or Olympics because of very restrictive amateur status requirements. Let's see if Laird who just ran 19.81 makes it to Nationals in June. You simply cannot state that 19.81 can be run by someone who does not have talent.

"Look, guy, I know I made the following categorical statement:

'if a white sprinter runs the 100 AND the 200, his best event will become the 200.....history has proven this.'

and then you provided a list of white sprinters who ran both events and yet were better at the 100, so, it APPEARS like my categorical claim was wrong. But instead of engaging with anything resembling real data, I'm going to provide you another list:

X

Y

Z

A

B

C

Now, I know you might think - 'wait, what the hell does Mike Agostini or Hal Davis have to do with whether or not Shirvington should have run the 200 instead of the 100, or what a comparative analysis of Bolling's 100 to 200 adjusted times shows?' And the answer is: top 10 fastest NFL running backs who went to JUCO before going pro

Jimbo Graham

Otto Van Heimleicher

Cal "Cool Cat" Cattens

Jimmy Valentino

Hakin Brown-Smith"

How long have we had pro track?

Andre DeGrasse, Trayvon Bromell, Christian Coleman all NCAA guys how did they do vs world competition? Grant Holloway?

LongTimer wrote:

"Look, guy, I know I made the following categorical statement:

'if a white sprinter runs the 100 AND the 200, his best event will become the 200.....history has proven this.'

and then you provided a list of white sprinters who ran both events and yet were better at the 100, so, it APPEARS like my categorical claim was wrong. But instead of engaging with anything resembling real data, I'm going to provide you another list:

X

Y

Z

A

B

C

Now, I know you might think - 'wait, what the hell does Mike Agostini or Hal Davis have to do with whether or not Shirvington should have run the 200 instead of the 100, or what a comparative analysis of Bolling's 100 to 200 adjusted times shows?' And the answer is: top 10 fastest NFL running backs who went to JUCO before going pro

Jimbo Graham

Otto Van Heimleicher

Cal "Cool Cat" Cattens

Jimmy Valentino

Hakin Brown-Smith"

Finally, some back up.

But good luck getting him to recognize and respond to the finer points of your argument.

Hell just respond with.....another list! And one hes probably already provided, if not previously in this or more recent threads, but then with one he posted in a football forum back in 2006.