Rheinhardt Harrison RIPS Final Workout Before SUB-4 Attempt

I don’t know, watching the video it doesn’t look all that windy to me.

I still can’t figure out how you close a workout in 4:07 but only go 4:06 in a race. There is no sugar coating it, that is just a horrible result.

https://youtu.be/UQw2vm--8jw

And he closed the race in 59. If wind was the sole cause, I woukd expect him to fight to stay close to goal pace and then lose it in last 600. His splits look correct for a 4:06 guy and 4:06 race. I still think he was just gassed from the killer workout.

SMHsohard wrote:

Pacing to run a fast time is never an excuse that someone should have ran faster by themselves. Almost every extremely fast mile ever run was run with a good pacer. His pacer did not do a good job in this race, which is fine because it was his FIRST mile of the season. I never said anything about the pacer needing to stay with him towards the end of the race. I'd the pacer even brought him through 600-800 at 4:00 pace with non windy conditions, you would see a different results... Which I'm sure in the coming months you will, and you will look like a novice for not seeing if now.

Peace

Can't blame the pacer. Harrison's last 400 was 59.76. That is not sub 4 MILE pace. He couldn't even close the race at sub 4 speed off a slow pace.

wait a second wrote:

SMHsohard wrote:

Pacing to run a fast time is never an excuse that someone should have ran faster by themselves. Almost every extremely fast mile ever run was run with a good pacer. His pacer did not do a good job in this race, which is fine because it was his FIRST mile of the season. I never said anything about the pacer needing to stay with him towards the end of the race. I'd the pacer even brought him through 600-800 at 4:00 pace with non windy conditions, you would see a different results... Which I'm sure in the coming months you will, and you will look like a novice for not seeing if now.

Peace

Can't blame the pacer. Harrison's last 400 was 59.76. That is not sub 4 MILE pace. He couldn't even close the race at sub 4 speed off a slow pace.

He ran a 4:06 in 15-20 mpw wind. That's all that matters. That's equivalent to 4:00-4:01 in no wind. Stop deflecting.

SMHsohard wrote:

wait a second wrote:

Can't blame the pacer. Harrison's last 400 was 59.76. That is not sub 4 MILE pace. He couldn't even close the race at sub 4 speed off a slow pace.

He ran a 4:06 in 15-20 mpw wind. That's all that matters. That's equivalent to 4:00-4:01 in no wind. Stop deflecting.

Is it?

SMHsohard wrote:

wait a second wrote:

Can't blame the pacer. Harrison's last 400 was 59.76. That is not sub 4 MILE pace. He couldn't even close the race at sub 4 speed off a slow pace.

He ran a 4:06 in 15-20 mpw wind. That's all that matters. That's equivalent to 4:00-4:01 in no wind. Stop deflecting.

No way was that 15-20mph wind. Look at the flags in the video.

plus the announcers said that the wind died down considerably during his race ... and you're just pulling these wind converted times out of your a** ...

Hold on now.... wrote:

Brite Bart wrote:

Offended? No. Simply amazed that someone on a board nearly 100% about the sport of distance running including a ton of HS talk would post a multi paragraph "who is this guy" for a junior to be who ran 4:02.

Again, you've managed to turn this into being about you and it's time for you to tuck tail, go back and think of another cute handle and return to the board to post more stupid chit.

Actually you are offended. This much is obvious.

You've lost. Get new handle.

SMHsohard wrote:

wait a second wrote:

Can't blame the pacer. Harrison's last 400 was 59.76. That is not sub 4 MILE pace. He couldn't even close the race at sub 4 speed off a slow pace.

He ran a 4:06 in 15-20 mpw wind. That's all that matters. That's equivalent to 4:00-4:01 in no wind. Stop deflecting.

He ran 600m solo in moderate winds. He was drafting behind a pacer

Either way, it's Tinman's fault. He shouldn't have gone so hard in the workouts.

Lay off the kid. Clearly not his day, but still a decent time given the wind.

sweet sixteen wrote:

SMHsohard wrote:

He ran a 4:06 in 15-20 mpw wind. That's all that matters. That's equivalent to 4:00-4:01 in no wind. Stop deflecting.

No way was that 15-20mph wind. Look at the flags in the video.

We're you there? It was 15-20 mpw winds. Did you turn the sound on for the race vid? The wind was whipping. I have no connection to Harrison but I've never seen such hate for a kid that clearly has so much potential.

Also stop comparing a hand timed 4:07.8 1600 with a mile. That converts to like 4:09.5 or so for a mile, and he had wind this time around. Definitely not what he wanted, but with 6-7 minutes of rest between reps it isn’t uncommon for well trained runners to get within 10ish seconds of their PRs—I think Rupp ran some mile repeats after a race once and hit something like 3:59-4:02 for a rep or something.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

If I weighed 98 pounds I could run as fast as him to.

You could run as fast as him to where?

Seems like when Verzbikas ran his at the Adidas event it was VERY windy, but he powered through it. I suspect the kid will get it this year. Combination of wind and VERY challenging workout may have been enough to put him off. He clearly has both the talent and fitness to do it.

SMHsohard wrote:

sweet sixteen wrote:

No way was that 15-20mph wind. Look at the flags in the video.

We're you there? It was 15-20 mpw winds. Did you turn the sound on for the race vid? The wind was whipping. I have no connection to Harrison but I've never seen such hate for a kid that clearly has so much potential.

Is this your first day on Letsrun?

I find this hilarious because every time someone brings up wind on this website they say that it doesn’t matter at all. Yet everyone on this thread is defending this dude that the wind accounts for 6-7 seconds? I’m sorry but this kid was toasted for this race from the start. 407 in workout to pump out a 406? Probably ran too hard of a workout too early. Can he run sub 4 later down the road? Yes. But everyone saying his time converts cause of wind are hypocritical because you’ll shoot down any non-elite athlete on this website who says wind had a factor in their race or time trial. This is a fact

What happened to this tread?

Rheinhard Harrison TORCHES Letsrun: "You Guys Are Idiots"

Rheinhard Harrison TORCHES Letsrun: "You Guys Are Idiots" wrote:

What happened to this tread?

Rheinhard Harrison TORCHES Letsrun: "You Guys Are Idiots"

did they seriously delete the thread? what a joke. this is absolutely the biggest problem with this site. no reason to cut a thread like that. If there are inappropriate posts, delete them. There weren't many bad ones as of 10 minutes ago. And there should be a lot of rope for what is considered inappropriate.

He trained since he was a toddler? That's insane.