Is this the most Stacked Collegiate 5k?

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

They had Andy Truard (probably spelling his last name wrong), Justyn Knight, Grant Fisher, Amon Kemboi, Rory Linkletter, Clayton Young, Edwin Kurgat, Cooper Teare, and Sean McGorty.

Has there ever been a more stacked NCAA 5k? Just in that group I've named, there's six NCAA champions. Justyn, Grant, Sean, and Cooper are the next generation of amazing distance talent, too.

I'm younger so I don't know what it was like back then, but this seems to be the most stacked 5k ever.

I commentated this race with Sean (who won the race) if anyone wants to check it out (just adding this because it's relevant to the question):

https://youtu.be/ua_UqeP9ero

And I of course mean collegiate 5k*

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

They had Andy Truard (probably spelling his last name wrong), Justyn Knight, Grant Fisher, Amon Kemboi, Rory Linkletter, Clayton Young, Edwin Kurgat, Cooper Teare, and Sean McGorty.

Has there ever been a more stacked NCAA 5k? Just in that group I've named, there's six NCAA champions. Justyn, Grant, Sean, and Cooper are the next generation of amazing distance talent, too.

I'm younger so I don't know what it was like back then, but this seems to be the most stacked 5k ever.

I commentated this race with Sean (who won the race) if anyone wants to check it out (just adding this because it's relevant to the question):

https://youtu.be/ua_UqeP9ero

This issue is with saying that this race was stacked is that it relies heavily on hindsight and recency bias IMO. In hindsight we can be like “wow Cooper Teare was in that race and only got 17th!! That race must’ve been so deep” but in actuality his PB was only 13:46 heading into the race. Similarly you mention Linkletter who is a good runner but only owned a PB of 13:37 and was more geared towards 10k - he was good for his era in the NCAA but owes much of his hype to the NAU-BYU rivalry. Along with this you mention Kurgat who wasn’t the dominant force at that time that he would later become.

A better example of a stacked race would be the 2014 NCAA 5k. Lawi wins it in 13:18 and is prime Lawi, Cheserek is 2nd after winning XC & the 3&5 indoors, Dunbar and Jenkins were 3rd & 4th but bear in mind this is when the OU boys were absolutely untouchable. They got close to a sub 16 4xMile solo that year I believe. Kennedy Kithuaka was only 8th and this is after his last 3 XC seasons ended with 1st/1st/2nd.

Basically what I’m saying is judge the race more based on how the athletes were perceived at the time than with hindsight of knowing what they will go on to achieve

Agreed

The Brojos mentioned I think 2005 NCAA's on the podcast w/ Hall, Solinsky, Dobson, True, Cheseret etc. That was probably more stacked imo in terms of through 10 places. Lalang and Chez were a league above everyone and the others were just basically time trialing on the Lalang train.

Thanks for that info, very instresting. I'd still say 2018 is more stakced because there were four NCAA champions going into the race.

I'm also interested in how Ches and Lawi aren't that fast now (at least compared to Sean and Grant)

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

Thanks for that info, very instresting. I'd still say 2018 is more stakced because there were four NCAA champions going into the race.

I'm also interested in how Ches and Lawi aren't that fast now (at least compared to Sean and Grant)

I get where you’re coming from but bear in mind that there was no dominant force in the NCAA that year. There was only 3 NCAA title winners in the 2014 race I mentioned but that was because Ches had won every distance title available that season and Lawi and Kennedy had swept up every title the year prior to Ches’ freshman year

Kids love to say “stacked” “epic” “owned” “devastated”

It makes them feel like what they’re writing is important

With that headline I expected a women's race.

Deeply disappointed here.

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

They had Andy Truard (probably spelling his last name wrong), Justyn Knight, Grant Fisher, Amon Kemboi, Rory Linkletter, Clayton Young, Edwin Kurgat, Cooper Teare, and Sean McGorty.

Has there ever been a more stacked NCAA 5k? Just in that group I've named, there's six NCAA champions. Justyn, Grant, Sean, and Cooper are the next generation of amazing distance talent, too.

I'm younger so I don't know what it was like back then, but this seems to be the most stacked 5k ever.

I commentated this race with Sean (who won the race) if anyone wants to check it out (just adding this because it's relevant to the question):

https://youtu.be/ua_UqeP9ero

IIRC the significant storyline of this race, besides having a lot of future talent, was that it was the last NCAA championship race of Grant Fisher and Justyn Knight's rivalry. The two had been battling back and forth similarly to how Fisher and McDonald did in 2018-19, with Fisher "stealing" the 2017 5k title from Knight, only for Knight to dominate their next two NCAA championship matchups. Fisher had good races against Knight and kept their rivalry competitive, but the 2018 NCAA 5k was going to be their last matchup as collegiate athletes.

Of the race itself, I remember Sean McGorty moving with Fisher for much of the race, always nearby. When he took the lead with two laps to go, it seemed like a last-ditch effort. For 800m, it basically seemed like we were waiting for Fisher and Knight to just kick into a higher gear and zoom past McGorty, but Sean shocked everyone by winning it the hard way and by giving himself the best chance to win. It was another upset in what had already been a crazy weekend, with Isaiah Harris beating Michael Saruni in the 800m and Ollie Hoare upsetting Josh Kerr in the 1500m... not to mention Ben Flanagan's win in the 10k. It was hard to pick a favorite race of those championships.

Click bait to promote the poster’s YouTube channel and not even in interesting topic.

2012 had Levins (2:09), Chelimo (silver), Lalang (13:00), Mead (13:02), Sambu (26:55), Ahmed (12:47) and Stinson (25k NR holder)

fisherman wrote:

Click bait to promote the poster’s YouTube channel and not even in interesting topic.

+1

He should be banned for self promotion.

Can we ban this child for constantly spamming his podcast?

@TheSpammingEffect wrote:

Can we ban this child for constantly spamming his podcast?

I only posted the video because it seemed relevant to the topic. Is it not?

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

@TheSpammingEffect wrote:

Can we ban this child for constantly spamming his podcast?

I only posted the video because it seemed relevant to the topic. Is it not?

Is starting a topic about a running video you made anything but self-promotion?

board pollution wrote:

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

I only posted the video because it seemed relevant to the topic. Is it not?

Is starting a topic about a running video you made anything but self-promotion?

The topic was about the 2018 5k and if there were any races in history as stacked. How is that question directed towards my video?

I only linked to it because it's relevant to the conversation and has the race video within it to those who want to see who ran.

You know what video's the most relevant to it? The original race video. Posting your own version of it comes across as desperate

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

board pollution wrote:

Is starting a topic about a running video you made anything but self-promotion?

The topic was about the 2018 5k and if there were any races in history as stacked. How is that question directed towards my video?

I only linked to it because it's relevant to the conversation and has the race video within it to those who want to see who ran.

The video you made was relevant to the thread topic that you also made, so that’s why you posted it?

I thought I'd post the one with Sean because he discusses the competition.

8minpace wrote:

2012 had Levins (2:09), Chelimo (silver), Lalang (13:00), Mead (13:02), Sambu (26:55), Ahmed (12:47) and Stinson (25k NR holder)

Oh wow! That's an insane field. Who ended up winning it and is there a race video?