Affirmative action rewards incompetence. That’s a fact.
Affirmative action rewards incompetence. That’s a fact.
Reflection_ wrote:
Liberals are so desperate to find racism they have to put words in others mouths to find it. That's how you know how incoherent their worldview is.
I am not a political bandwagon fanboy!!! My loyalty is to what is right and what is wrong (while understanding that in some cases this is a subjective position and applying such understanding with discretion). I have not put any words in anyone’s mouth to find racism. What I am is black in the US and that racism bull—- finds me. So take several seats back and let the adults speak!!
Or you look for racism when there is none. I bet you are someone who would get rear ended at a red light and claim it’s cause you are black.
Reflection_ wrote:
pupil3142 wrote:
apologies, i missed a small part out. This shows that you cant 'belittle' the defense in any way. You can just say their case has no merit, but you cant 'pooh pooh them', which is what this lawyer is saying Blackwell did. But i do agree with a lot of your comments;
Under Minnesota law this issue of prosecutorial misconduct is governed by the state supreme court decision of State v. McDaniel, 777 N.W.2d 739 (MN Supreme Court 2010) which provides in relevant part:
A prosecutor has special responsibilities as a representative of the people. Specifically, in final argument to the jury, a prosecutor is governed by a unique set of rules which differ significantly from those governing counsel in civil suits, and even from those governing defense counsel in the very same criminal trial. These special rules follow directly from the prosecutor’s inherently unique role in the criminal justice system, which mandates that the prosecutor not act as a zealous advocate for criminal punishment, but as the representative of the people in an effort to seek justice. Prosecutors must avoid inflaming the jury’s passions and prejudices against defendants. Although a prosecutor can argue that a particular defense has no merit, a prosecutor may not belittle the defense, either in the abstract or by suggesting that the defense was raised because it was the only defense that might succeed
Two things:
(1) It a pure stretch of the imagination to say using the term story is equal to belittlement. They may not like the word but it is not belittling the defense counsel.
(2) Pulling this case law is also a stretch. The state in this case used specific words direct at the defense counsel:
“ There’s a reason why attorneys’ arguments, closing arguments, opening statements, questions and so forth are not evidence and cannot be considered by you as evidence. Because the attorneys will, oftentimes like to manipulate the evidence, make it what it isn’t–hoping hopes that you don’t recall the evidence that was presented and then misrepresent the evidence to you and ask you to rely on their representations of the evidence as if that’s the truth.
There’s a reason why arguments aren’t evidence and that is because, one of the reasons is because when the evidence that comes from the witness stand if it doesn’t fit and an attorney stands up and gives you an explanation when that question was–when the opportunity for introducing that evidence was offered and passed by, it gives them the advantage by filling in the blanks for you in their own words when their clients can’t do it for themselves.”
This is a far cry from using the term “story”. It does not directly or indirectly belittle the defense.
Fair enough. Thanks for the sensible reply.
Reflection_ wrote:
Liberals are so desperate to find racism they have to put words in others mouths to find it. That's how you know how incoherent their worldview is.
I am not a political bandwagon fanboy!!! My loyalty is to what is right and what is wrong (while understanding that in some cases this is a subjective position and applying such understanding with discretion). I have not put any words in anyone’s mouth to find racism. What I am is black in the US and that racism bull—- finds me. So take several seats back and let the adults speak!!
I am sorry if you are black in the US and racism finds you. This is desperatley wrong.
not surprised wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You missed the part where he repeatedly complied with police requests. He attacked no one, threatened no one. And he is dead over a fake 20 dollar bill when it wasn't even proven he knew it was a fake. But in your books, it's ok for the police to take a person's life because they feel like it. They had no cause.
Well summarized. This should be an easy case to try. But it's naturally been politicized and the reTrumplican party has made it ok for every racist and biggot to share their opinion. The man murdered Floyd.
Unfortunately he didn't comply when it mattered most - when he was to sit in the car and go to jail! Did you miss that part?
Look for rioting, burning and murder if Chauvin isn't found guilty.
The lives of the jury members will be at stake, too.
That's the way of the left.
Oh...there will be a fire sale at Target and Walmart, too. Everything 100% off.
i am saying, here and now, i will accept the outcome decided in the court.
I have no need to project my own demands onto matters where others, eg the jury, know much more than me.
and i dont even have demands in this case.
unlike zhou.
this is appalling politicking;
If the verdict is guilty, Chauvin has great grounds for an appeal. Between the lack of sequesteration, the emotional witnesses, Water’s commentary, and the settlement, he can argue pretty well for a new trial.
pupil3142 wrote:
Reflection_ wrote:
I am not a political bandwagon fanboy!!! My loyalty is to what is right and what is wrong (while understanding that in some cases this is a subjective position and applying such understanding with discretion). I have not put any words in anyone’s mouth to find racism. What I am is black in the US and that racism bull—- finds me. So take several seats back and let the adults speak!!
I am sorry if you are black in the US and racism finds you. This is desperatley wrong.
That is not an IF, and the more people think that it is an IF, the more racial prejudice will impact people’s lives.
Two simple questions:
1) Do you accept that you have a subconscious
2) do you accept the selfish gene concept.
If you accept both then you accept that everybody has subconscious racial bias affecting their behavior, and racial bias in the presence of power inequity serves to reinforce the inequity.
Having subconscious racial bias doesn’t make you a bad person, it makes you a person. Not working to address that bias makes you a person who causes unnecessary harm.
trashcan wrote:
pupil3142 wrote:
I am sorry if you are black in the US and racism finds you. This is desperatley wrong.
That is not an IF, and the more people think that it is an IF, the more racial prejudice will impact people’s lives.
Two simple questions:
1) Do you accept that you have a subconscious
2) do you accept the selfish gene concept.
If you accept both then you accept that everybody has subconscious racial bias affecting their behavior, and racial bias in the presence of power inequity serves to reinforce the inequity.
Having subconscious racial bias doesn’t make you a bad person, it makes you a person. Not working to address that bias makes you a person who causes unnecessary harm.
This argument falls apart when you talk to the many black people who say they have never experienced racism.
third degree murder
GUILTY. Proud of our court system this time
Justice failed today.
I can’t wait til you are the victim of a crime and the police don’t come.
yawn wrote:
I can’t wait til you are the victim of a crime and the police don’t come.
Normal people: cops can do their job and not kill people
Bootlickers: if cops can't kill people with reckless abandon they can't do their job
Carry on!
so hopefully we wont have riots.
oh lord, cbsn is now saying that the defense now has to prove innocense
The justice system worked this time. Imagine that.
We tried to tell some of you. But you ignored the facts.
non-affirmative action hire wrote:
Get on your knees for black criminals, you democrat fairy pieces of trash.
Reported. To the FBI
The point is that even if you have never uttered a racial slur, subconscious racial bias affects your behavior. That sort of bias produces behavior which, on an individual basis, usually cannot be conclusively proven to be influenced by race, but in the aggregate, it produces a strong effect.
“I connected with that job candidate”. “That person was behaving suspiciously” “my instincts told me not to trust him”
Subconscious, sure, usually, but you can expect that bias is part of the equation when someone utters something akin to the phrases above.
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