I agree with Phil. And BTW he is not Lewandowski's Uncle. That was fake news perpetuated by Gjert.
I agree with Phil. And BTW he is not Lewandowski's Uncle. That was fake news perpetuated by Gjert.
Nah dude. That polish guy tried to cut in when there was no space between Jakob and the guy ahead of him. There was no room for that athlete to cut in. Period. You could make a case that both should be DQ'd as Jakob didn't cause that scenario. Jakob was put into that situation by that athlete and had no choice but to jostle him. The only other option was for Jakob to let the guy collide into him or clip his heels and hope no one falls. That's not a situation you want to allow to happen with no room there. Jakob is tall for a distance runner of his caliber but not as imposing as Mottram was apparently and even he had moments like these.
Wait - are you more upset at the Instagram post or that the competition committee made the correct decision by not disqualifying him?
I mean would it be my style to sh$t-talk guys on Instagram with stupid posts like that? No, I think that's a bit insufferable but that's just me - it's his right I guess.
Back to the non-DQ/overturned DQ, if there is any legit case for disqualifying a guy 40m into a 1500m race for an awkward lunging, sidestep that hindered his chances if anything rather than improved them, I think this message board would love to hear it. He has a right to stay on his feet - since when was that right compromised by any rule?
I'm happy that in Poland, when it would have been beneficial to Polish runners, the right call was made. I don't care that Pappa Ingebritsen threatened to fly his kid home if it stood - great, it ensured that the common sense decision was ultimately made. Case closed.
OP sounds like a little baby. You seriously can’t take a little trash talk? If they don’t like it then do something about it and beat him.
Hahahaha I watched the video and Jakob makes an ABSURD attempt to pass on the inside when there is NO SPACE AT ALL.
Does he expect the other runners to just go out to lane 2 and make a little Jakob-path for him.
Hahahahahahahahaha. How was this not a DQ?
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Henrik just posted this screenshot on his Instagram story:
https://imgur.com/a/TBU2FLqAfter Jakob luckily and undeservedly received Gold again after the DQ got overturned (primarily due to his fathers threat to withdraw him from the 3000m race and simply go home if they don't get Gold) his brother took it to the next level by looking down on the 2 Polish runners who had to withdraw from the 3000m race due to medical problems and claiming they withdrew simply because they are "scared of Jakob".
1) Both Lewandowski and Rozmys were up all night, the counter-appeal was filed at 3.30 am after they discussed it internally for hours and were sure it would go through (for an unknown reason it was rejected). They barely got any sleep last night, and Lewandowski ended up pulling his back and neck in the stressful situation of arguing with IAAF officials about the DQ.
2) They feel they got betrayed by the athletics commission and that they received unfair treatment. They feel that Jakob's appeal got through due to his superstar status and extreme importance to European athletics and not because the rules favored him. Lewandowski was even considering to resign from the European Athletics Competition Commissions.
3) None of them is a 3000m specialist, they mostly just entered the race to run it in their home country and since their main event (1500) was already over anyway, nothing to lose. They never expected to win Gold in the 3000, or even medal, or beat Jakob in it.
Despite all of this, Henrik still has to make his stupid story offending the Polish athletes and even linking them so they get a notification about it. Now the Ingebrigtsen's are not just known for aggressive behavior in track races (lots of pushing, cutting, passing with no space, etc.), their inability to accept defeat (every DQ gets appealed), but also for completely unnecessary talking about other championship runners who worked just as hard to get there.
Incredibly arrogant statement, like "look at my brother he is better than all of you haha! You scared? *insert smile*".
Henrik is slowly turning into a worse version of a Craig Engels of Europe, and I'm not sure whether that's a good thing. I'd understand if 14 year old kids would make drama like that, but Henrik is the oldest of the Ingebrigtsen, in his 30s and should know better than that.
You write like a child. It's been a long time since I've seen a post so full of speculation and conjecture
master of this domain wrote:
Hahahaha I watched the video and Jakob makes an ABSURD attempt to pass on the inside when there is NO SPACE AT ALL.
Does he expect the other runners to just go out to lane 2 and make a little Jakob-path for him.
Hahahahahahahahaha. How was this not a DQ?
Good point, he was absolutely gunning for that crucial position of 5th place boxed on the rail 140m into the race (I'll correct myself as I said 40m in another post). Clearly a difference making move there.....
Jakob made a dumb move trying to pass on the inside, but it is not worthy of a DQ. And the subsequent off-balanced foot on the infield isn't a DQ either. Neither had an impact on the result of the race or caused an advantage. A DQ should be pretty cut and dry not something that gets applied/reinstated/applied or worthy of a debate on letsrun. It should be pretty obvious to anyone watching.
And I don't think his antics right off the line are worthy of a DQ either, but they are worthy of getting spiked and an elbow to the chest.
Was it always common in championships for people to be disqualified and then re-instated?
ehehh wrote:
Jakob made a dumb move trying to pass on the inside, but it is not worthy of a DQ. And the subsequent off-balanced foot on the infield isn't a DQ either. Neither had an impact on the result of the race or caused an advantage. A DQ should be pretty cut and dry not something that gets applied/reinstated/applied or worthy of a debate on letsrun. It should be pretty obvious to anyone watching.
And I don't think his antics right off the line are worthy of a DQ either, but they are worthy of getting spiked and an elbow to the chest.
I'd like to see Jakob disqualified as much as the next guy, but I agree with this. He didn't cause trouble for anyone, and he didn't gain any advantage, so, sadly, he should win.
As I said before, God should disqualify him for poor sportsmanship for threatening to quit the meet when he wasn't crowned the winner.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Footman wrote:
LateRunnerPhil. You talk as if you have inside knowledge about this controversy. How do you know what Jakob or Lewandowski or even the officials think and feel? Henriks post was poor sportsmanship but why should that reflect on Jakob? Lewandowski and Jakob were very friendly after the race so I am not sure where you are getting all of this animosity between them other then his brothers post.
You do not show any understanding about the rules of racing on the track otherwise you would know that Rozmys rather than Jakob should have been disqualified.
The info comes from interviews (mostly in Polish, in Europe a lot of people discuss things locally in their native language) and general observing what they comment each other on Instagram and so on. Lewandowski came to Jakob on the day of the ceremony and told him "you were better and won the Gold, but same rules should apply to everyone, including you".
A lot of the misunderstanding comes from the official race video that shows everything from such an unfortunate angle that it looks like Jakob was in front of Razmys and not pushing him and trying an inside pass with absolutely no space.
Only a few people have seen other screenshots like this one that shows the entire thing that's also in line with what Ramzys said (I was in front on lane 1, Jakob pushed me out and I went back in):
https://imgur.com/a/F0Ucs91Ramzys and Jakob know better than anyone else what happened, just looking at some videos from various angles does not always tell the full story.
Please stop calling him Ramzys.
Let's get this straight. Two Polish runners in the final. The medal hope, Lewandowski, goes to the lead. The second guy, Romzys, with no chance at a medal, cuts Jakob off at the first turn and forces him off the track. Jakob goes on to win, is dq'd, and then reinstated correctly. After complaining that the Ingebrigtsens had threatened to quit the 3k if Jakob were not reinstated, the Polish runners then BOTH make excuses for dropping out of the 3k.
Murph800 wrote:
Please stop calling him Ramzys.
Exactly, cause we know he's really Ramzys IV.
The Dirty Duck wrote:
ehehh wrote:
Jakob made a dumb move trying to pass on the inside, but it is not worthy of a DQ. And the subsequent off-balanced foot on the infield isn't a DQ either. Neither had an impact on the result of the race or caused an advantage. A DQ should be pretty cut and dry not something that gets applied/reinstated/applied or worthy of a debate on letsrun. It should be pretty obvious to anyone watching.
And I don't think his antics right off the line are worthy of a DQ either, but they are worthy of getting spiked and an elbow to the chest.
I'd like to see Jakob disqualified as much as the next guy, but I agree with this. He didn't cause trouble for anyone, and he didn't gain any advantage, so, sadly, he should win.
As I said before, God should disqualify him for poor sportsmanship for threatening to quit the meet when he wasn't crowned the winner.
This post makes my head want to explode.
1) You'd "like to see Jakob disqualified as much as the next guy" - why and who wants to see him disqualified? Because he's the best athlete in the field? Huh?
2) God should disqualify him for poor sportsmanship? I mean, you don't think "God" has more important sh$t to do than worry about "poor sportsmanship" shown in the European indoor 1500m championship race of 2021?
3) This notion that he was trying to push his way through and his "antics off the line" were in some way unethical - you have got to be kidding me. This isn't a lap around the parking lot at Sunday School my friend - you have 10 guys wanting the same spot on the track and in this race in particular they all rolled right over the top of him to get it. He is allowed to defend his space and stay on his feet. You guys have zero clue.
zxcvzcxv wrote:
Let's get this straight. Two Polish runners in the final. The medal hope, Lewandowski, goes to the lead. The second guy, Romzys, with no chance at a medal, cuts Jakob off at the first turn and forces him off the track. Jakob goes on to win, is dq'd, and then reinstated correctly. After complaining that the Ingebrigtsens had threatened to quit the 3k if Jakob were not reinstated, the Polish runners then BOTH make excuses for dropping out of the 3k.
Bingo
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