Jeremy Lin called “coronavirus” by unnamed racist basketball player

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I assume there is a lot of trash talking on the floor; the insult popped into the guy's brain, he thought it was clever and he said it. The player represents only himself and he seems to be an idiot anyway.

Except it wasn't clever. It was racist. We've established that individual people who do racist things get consequences (plenty of people lose jobs over saying racist stuff that's more subtle). So why are we trying to cover this up and sweep it under the rug?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Asian lives matter wrote:

No, its the systemic attacks on elder Asians in a number of cities. And the minimizing of racism toward from individuals such as yourself.

In the contexts of attacks on Asians open racial taunts in the NBA are nothing to ignore.

I assume there is a lot of trash talking on the floor; the insult popped into the guy's brain, he thought it was clever and he said it. The player represents only himself and he seems to be an idiot anyway.

It's not a story. If it happened frequently from multiple players, then it should be, but not just because of a one-off incident.

Also, this isn't a "one off" incident. Our freaking former president called it the China virus and it's a common slur people use against Asians. And currently we have serial violent stabbings and other attacks on random Asian people walking down the street that is spreading around the country.

I don't understand how you can dismiss this in good conscience as "boys will be boys."

Raises the larger issue of why Asians are so drastically under-represented in the NBA. There are no Asians in any executive capacity for any team. Lin is probably one of a handful of Asians to ever play the game professionally in America. There can be no other reason for all that other than racial bias. Conservatives and Trump fans can't reasonably deny that, but they do anyway.

coach wrote:

It's allowed because there has been no systemic racism against Asians in this country.

This is what some white Americans tell me (mostly old male). And, unlike you, they are not sarcastic. They try to convince me that I face no racial prejudice. When I ask then why they think that's the case, they tell me "because Asian Americans are successful."

They have to deny any racism against Asians exists in order to perpetuate their "model minority" myth.

What's his real first name?

Somebody Someone wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I assume there is a lot of trash talking on the floor; the insult popped into the guy's brain, he thought it was clever and he said it. The player represents only himself and he seems to be an idiot anyway.

It's not a story. If it happened frequently from multiple players, then it should be, but not just because of a one-off incident.

Also, this isn't a "one off" incident. Our freaking former president called it the China virus and it's a common slur people use against Asians. And currently we have serial violent stabbings and other attacks on random Asian people walking down the street that is spreading around the country.

I don't understand how you can dismiss this in good conscience as "boys will be boys."

It was a big deal when the POTUS said or tweeted similar things, but not for a random, unnamed NBA player. He is not a team owner or a coach.

As far as being racist and on a 1 to 10 scale, it's about a 3 compared to a 10 if he had called him a ch**k.

Beaf Eagle wrote:

Raises the larger issue of why Asians are so drastically under-represented in the NBA. There are no Asians in any executive capacity for any team. Lin is probably one of a handful of Asians to ever play the game professionally in America. There can be no other reason for all that other than racial bias. Conservatives and Trump fans can't reasonably deny that, but they do anyway.

PLaying in the NBA is a meritocracy.

Unlike most things in American life

tuccone wrote:

Jeremy Lin was called the “coronavirus” in an NBA G League game. When was the last time we heard about some white dude calling someone the n word in an NBA game?

https://t.co/lrvjVXPW9r

Makes you think. Where’s the Asian Lives Matter protests?

This post is not a defense of Asians of course.

It is an attack on black people

roller coaster wrote:

coach wrote:

Sorry you didnt get the sarcasm of my previous posts. I initially stated what is in vogue - systemic racism is only against black and brown people. Then I pretended to naively discover that racism against Asians in fact exists.

I have a bad habit of being flippant on this message board. Apologies to manzanar and you and I will attempt to be more serious when discussing this subject which is painful and unfortunately dismissed by so many

Don't worry, most of us understood your sarcasm

What made this believable, is that there is a large number of people who don't believe Asians experience racism.

The Unkle wrote:

Asian lives matter wrote:

Why are no black or white NBA players wearing shirts showing outrage over these racist attacks.

Black racism is a topic that is taboo.

Yes. All those Asian people being murdered by the cops.

No that's not it. If random elderly blacks were attacked in a number of cities because they were black you would see major demonstrations and extensive major media coverage and sports teams would do something to help victims.

Asian Americans do not have the political clout that blacks have.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Somebody Someone wrote:

Also, this isn't a "one off" incident. Our freaking former president called it the China virus and it's a common slur people use against Asians. And currently we have serial violent stabbings and other attacks on random Asian people walking down the street that is spreading around the country.

I don't understand how you can dismiss this in good conscience as "boys will be boys."

It was a big deal when the POTUS said or tweeted similar things, but not for a random, unnamed NBA player. He is not a team owner or a coach.

As far as being racist and on a 1 to 10 scale, it's about a 3 compared to a 10 if he had called him a ch**k.

So it is a trend? That’s the point. He’s one person of many who say racist things against Asians. It’s been happening to this group throughout the pandemic.

And are you some super conservative or something? Get outta here with that “it wasn’t that racist so no big deal” garbage. This type of thinking is why we’ve had to confront so much racism against other races this past year. And it applies to other races like Asians as well. This is like basic “How not to be a racist 101” stuff honestly and I’m not even that liberal.

Asian lives matter wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Yes. All those Asian people being murdered by the cops.

No that's not it. If random elderly blacks were attacked in a number of cities because they were black you would see major demonstrations and extensive major media coverage and sports teams would do something to help victims.

Asian Americans do not have the political clout that blacks have.

All of the the demonstrations I've seen, have been as a result of actions taken by police officers. As bad as the Arbery shooting was, it didn't generate any protests.

I haven't heard of confrontations between the police and Asian Americans. There are countless videos of blacks being shot by police but I have yet to see one with an Asian victim.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Asian lives matter wrote:

No that's not it. If random elderly blacks were attacked in a number of cities because they were black you would see major demonstrations and extensive major media coverage and sports teams would do something to help victims.

Asian Americans do not have the political clout that blacks have.

All of the the demonstrations I've seen, have been as a result of actions taken by police officers. As bad as the Arbery shooting was, it didn't generate any protests.

I haven't heard of confrontations between the police and Asian Americans. There are countless videos of blacks being shot by police but I have yet to see one with an Asian victim.

That's irrelevant. I said that if elderly blacks were brutally attacked in different major cities because they were black, there would be major demonstrations and huge media coverage.

muh gubment wrote:

coach wrote:

It's allowed because there has been no systemic racism against Asians in this country.

Well there's no systemic racism against Blacks either...

There you are rigged for Hilary.

ENJOY YOUR LOSS ?

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Asian lives matter wrote:

No that's not it. If random elderly blacks were attacked in a number of cities because they were black you would see major demonstrations and extensive major media coverage and sports teams would do something to help victims.

Asian Americans do not have the political clout that blacks have.

All of the the demonstrations I've seen, have been as a result of actions taken by police officers. As bad as the Arbery shooting was, it didn't generate any protests.

I haven't heard of confrontations between the police and Asian Americans. There are countless videos of blacks being shot by police but I have yet to see one with an Asian victim.

But the conversation has now been taken to places way beyond police brutality. There are changes in admissions standards to colleges, SAT Subject Tests are out in the name of equity, mamy companies have updated their policies toward more fairness toward minorities to name a few, but the list goes on and on.

So why does this, from your viewpoint, not matter when we talk about Asian minorities? They’ve faced a tough year and there are increasingly more violent attacks on the group. Seems like we should feel united to stand up for this as opposed to saying things like “Oh, it wasn’t that bad,” as you’ve said several times. That’s not how many Asian people are currently feeling and I don’t think you should speak for them and say this wasn’t a big deal.

It’s possible to stand up for BLM and other groups simultaneously.

coach wrote:

It's allowed because there has been no systemic racism against Asians in this country.

hahah - that's a joke right? Why don't you enlighten us all on what the definition of "systemic" is in the context of racism.

In NY there has been a huge rise in crimes against Asians. Asians have been starting to protest against this and department of education policies which they deem to be unfair. Police and security have stopped them from protesting the education chancellor.

I dont know what transpired between chancellor Careanza and Mayor DeBlasio that led to Carranza's resignation but some suggest ig has something to do with desegregating schools and HS admissions policies.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

coach wrote:

It's allowed because there has been no systemic racism against Asians in this country.

hahah - that's a joke right? Why don't you enlighten us all on what the definition of "systemic" is in the context of racism.

Yes it was supposed to be a joke

You're putting words in my mouth. My point is that there are 340M people in the U.S. and some of them are idiots and/or racists. If they are someone in a position of authority, it matters. This guy does not represent the entire U.S. or even the NBA.

There shouldn't be any racism or bigotry anywhere, but I believe change has to come from the top. Any backlash against Asians over the virus was egged on by our former POTUS and for him, it was used as a distraction from him effing up the handling of the pandemic.