Just had the most infuriating conversation with a welfare recipient...

Precious Roy wrote:

If you are going to do a right wing troll post on a US message board, take a moment to figure out how to not sound totally British.

Ha, ha.

The holidays gave it away!

If he is really receiving SSDI he gets one check a month. If he is getting $500 on average a week he is receiving one $2000 check which means he paid a decent amount into Social Security throughout his working life.

He is also likely actually disabled as there are way more people who should receive SSDI that aren't rather than the opposite. The process is painfully slow and an uphill climb for most people who apply.

If he is receiving some kind of short term disability idk what to say, that well will run dry soon. If he is receiving long term disability through a private policy he will be forced to collect SSDI sooner than later.

Someone here is full of it.

johnny99 wrote:

well actually wrote:

If you think that legally avoiding taxes is a bad thing then you might be mentally disabled.

What makes you think it was legal?

What evidence do you have that it was illegal?

I work with lifelong jobless people who routinely complain that our hyper-expensive coastal city won’t give them a 4/5 bedroom home for free, because they have endless amounts of kids they can’t feed, house, or otherwise care for.

Offer them a job, and they’ll have 10,000 excuses why they can’t do it.

Spend enough time working with the poor, and you’ll really start to lose your sympathy for them.

Yeah I know a lifelong homeless guy he’s actually a billionaire but just steals money from the government and he wears fancy suits and drives a Ferrari and just cries to the government like wah wah wah and he represents every homeless person in the world. I think his name is Jeff. Last name starts with a B but I can’t remember

welfare is much better, at least then im sitting at home playing witcher and hitting the best workouts of my life rather than working a very painful job that requires you to stand for hours and hours and walk around in a stupid suit

the only time worth working physically is if your a doctor, a lawyer or some sort of engineer

if you dont fill the above options and work then LOL at you. why would you when welfare is available...

In a state like NY where Section 8 can be worth over 1600 per month (2/3 of rent) the benefit of choosing not to work is huge.

https://nypost.com/2013/08/19/when-welfare-pays-better-than-work/

well actually wrote:

johnny99 wrote:

What makes you think it was legal?

What evidence do you have that it was illegal?

We'll see if this post gets deleted again.

No, I personally do not have any evidence that Trump's non-payment of taxes is illegal.

However, there are currently at least 3 investigations being conducted into Trump's tax and financial filings, and neither you nor I know what evidence of illegality those investigators might have already turned up or might turn up in the future.

The IRS has been investigating a $73 million dollar refund that Trump obtained.

The NYS Attorney General is investigating several financial issues with Trump and the Trump Organization.

And the most threatening to Trump is the NY County DA's investigation into various tax and financial fraud issues. Trump fought for years to prevent disclosure to the DA of 8 years of his financial records, including his tax returns. Trump took the issue all the way to the Supreme Court twice, where he lost twice. And these records were just turned over to the DA last week. So we'll see what happens. But the way he fought against disclosure of these records makes it pretty clear that there's stuff in there that he doesn't want people to know about. Maybe it's just embarrassing stuff, like he's not as rich as he says he is. Or maybe it's evidence of illegal conduct, that will expose him to criminal charges. We'll see.

Now that I've answered your question, how about you answer mine.

Why do you think that Trump's non-payment of taxes was legal?

Trump is the most investigated President in history and STILL no evidence of wrongdoing.

Give it up..

Any money you are paying in taxes is to keep these people the hell away from you. Personally I think it is money well spent.

The Unkle wrote:

Israel gets $11 million per day in welfare from the US taxpayer.

Talk about welfare

Seriously? ? Why isn't everybody up in arms about this? At least that dough could go to Americans!

runnerboy70 wrote:

Trump is the most investigated President in history and STILL no evidence of wrongdoing.

Give it up..

Name a single investigation into Trump's taxes that's been completed and which showed 'no evidence of wrongdoing', to use your phrase.

On the other hand, I recall Trump's foundation being shut down, and Trump having to pay $2 million, for fraudulent conduct. Not specifically tax related, but financial fraud.

In a statement, she said there had been "a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation - including unlawful co-ordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and wilful self-dealing, and much more".

She continued: "This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a chequebook to serve Mr Trump's business and political interests."

runnerboy70 wrote:

Trump is the most investigated President in history and STILL no evidence of wrongdoing.

Give it up..

The IRS has disagreed for a decade now.... It will be interesting to see what happens when he dies since until that is resolved, there will be major estate issues. Granted if you die broke, it isn't a big deal.

Can't believe what I'm hearing wrote:

The Unkle wrote:

Israel gets $11 million per day in welfare from the US taxpayer.

Talk about welfare

Seriously? ? Why isn't everybody up in arms about this? At least that dough could go to Americans!

Because the media does not cover this and in fact smears anyone who does.

And that $11 million per day is just the military aid package. Add up all the other goodies we taxpayers give Israel and it's closer to $30,000,000 per day for the Welfare Queen

You havent told us how much cash he collects every month to be able to maintain the high life.

$2000 a month isnt that much after expenses.

adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:

If some getting 500/week is doing better than you are, you should reconsider your life choices...

You missed the bit where it said he receives other benefits which save him a lot of money. I don't know much about welfare/ benefits systems, but cheap or free housing is often a major one. Bear in mind also that he won't be paying tax on his 500/week.

I realise 500/week is probably made up, but some people earning a decent salary are worse off than some welfare recipients.

On the other hand many on welfare receive very little, sometimes not realising they are legally entitled to more. Also welfare recipients can have their benefits cut or suspended on the whim of bureaucrats. I think there is a lot of luck to doing well from welfare.

Q loves you

After I collect Social Security for 4 years, I will start to receive more than I paid into it. It's all gravy beginning at age 66.

Turning on the spigot 15 months from now. WOO HOO !!!

kevin jfk wrote:

Dude was pretty much boasting to me how he receives over 500 per week in disability money (he's not disabled) and also receives other forms of benefits which saves him a chitload of money in other areas. Then went on to tell me he goes on 3 holidays a year minimum, and most of his(our) money goes on booze, drugs, hookers and clothes.

This mf lives a better life than me and I work 40+hours a week......

Is this a common theme or has this guy really manipulated the system in his favour?

I didn't even realize welfare pays so well

So did he big time you and supersize that order you took?