Elite OU College Football Player Severely Beaten by Trained Fighter in Bar Fight

There's a lot to unpack here but it is amusing reading a bunch of runners who never have been in a fight opine with "I would've done x" or "he should have done x." All of these guys most likely were drunk and not thinking correctly.

You don't know what happened before the video starts but it appears the football guy was the instigator. We don't know why the townie has what appears to have blood on his face but that will matter a lot. Did the football guy accidentally open the door into the townie, did he push him, did he punch him or did someone else do something to him and the footballer stepped in? None of us knows but it will come out.

It certainly looks like the football guy was the instigator once the video started but the townie guy is going to have a very hard time arguing self-defense even if the football guy was taunting him. There is no way that it was reasonable to continue pounding the football guy when he had him in a hold and the fact that the football guy was flailing his arms backwards presented no real danger. Just because someone acts like a dick and is taunting you doesn't give you a blank check to pound that person in the head over and over again when he was not reasonably posing as a danger (he wasn't a danger on his back in a hold and the townie could have held him there until security arrived).

I found the guy who stepped over them as if it was no biggie to have 2 guys brawling on a pee-soaked floor hilarious. I also think that it's hilarious that this guy is referred to as a wide receiver. He has 3 receptions in his career and he is a senior. He is a holder (apparently a good one because he got some award for it) but it obvious has more cachet to tell people you are an OK wide receiver than a holder.

Also, all of the runners who opining that you shouldn't pick a fight with such and such kind of person because you ever know if the guy may be trained, give me a break. The wimpiest guys pack heat so you might think that you could pummel the other guy but, to paraphrase an old rap song, "my fists have lost a bunch of fights but my gun is undefeated." It's best to avoid bar room fights at all costs because nothing good comes out of them. Either you get beaten up or you beat the other guy up and you get arrested and/or sued. If you are into that stuff, join a boxing club.

Not reading much in at all. Three very simple inferences:

1. It clearly looks like the scumbag (so labeled because he appears to be *acting* like an incredible scumbag) football-player was trying very hard to provoke the little guy, and had already physically assaulted him *at least* twice.

2. Any guy who acts like this scumbag football-player does in the video has almost certainly done the same kind of sh*t many times before. That's *extremely* unlikely to be one-off behavior.

3. Guys like this a**hole tend to 'modify' their behavior once they get the sh*t beaten out of them once in a bar bathroom with lots of other people watching.

Therefore, it's a very good bet that this a**hole has gotten *away* with this kind of scumbag behavior many times before without any real consequences.

Guess what? Now he's discovered scumbag behavior has consequences.

Lucky for him. Probably a vastly more valuable lesson than he'll get out of whatever classes football players at Oklahoma pretend to take and hire someone to do the work for.

You contradict yourself. The unknown skill and/or possession of weapons by an opponent is exactly why you shouldn’t pick a fight you are not prepared to lose or finish.

To anyone who wrote more than 10 lines on this thread, I want to punch your eye out.

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Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

This now comes back to a point I made earlier - the reality is these two brothers know they are themselves pretty good fighters but they have absolutely no idea of the capabilities of football Chad and his broski - how could they? Saying things like "what you got" clearly implies you must have something to bring to the table, so how does one possibly judge this. Especially when it looks like you already took one to the face (your bleeding nose) and then some idiot comes in and shoves you back 6ft in a very aggressive manor. There is no way to understand the ultimate intent at all - how does anyone know what Spencer Jones was or wasn't planning to do?

The brothers are probably not yet releasing a statement because they clearly understand that they are f-ed. It is pretty clear from the video that the MMA bros could have walked away from this and filed a police report against whoever caused the nose bleed. The bros were not backed into a corner when they started throwing punches. The bathroom exit was at their backs, and nobody was blocking their exit.

The video very clearly shows that they relished the fight. A nasty bathroom is no place to test out one's MMA skills, but that's the choice they made.

Who knows. This is Oklahoma. Maybe the defense can pack the jury full of rowdy drunk cowboys if this goes to trial. However, if you get several mothers and OK footballs fan, things probably don't turn out well for the bros. The victim is an academic all-conference football player who received national accolades. Yeah, the victim said some stupid stuff, but it will take Lance Ito, Robert Shapiro, F. Lee Bailey, Robert Kardashian, and Alan Dershowitz to get the bros out of this unscathed.

be careful of who you pick a fight with...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj87Dii_L00

Getting in fights is BAD. I'd deescalate/run 100% of the time as long as I wasn't leaving someone else behind to get beat up. Embarrassment for 5 minutes to live another day free and clear.

I'm not saying I'd win against any random, but bad things happen, win or lose. Even if you miraculously win a fight against a much larger aggressor, he could take a weird fall into a table and snap his neck and then you're in jail forever.

It doesn't matter where the door was, it doesn't matter if they could have walked away - I mean anyone can walk away from a conflict but that also doesn't mean someone won't follow you and attack you from behind. It doesn't matter they were not backed into a corner.

What matters is that they legally have the right to defend themselves if they believe they are endangered. And there is no way to prove that they didn't believe that. This is the way the law works. It's why the law is frustrating because pragmatically everything you said is right. They could have been bigger people, they could have walked and the almost certainly knew they could f--k those guys up - but at the essence of many laws is equality of application irrespective of details such as "could have walked, could have xxxxx". If laws were written to take into account every nuance and variables in a situation they could never be enforceable.

So again, I've said this many times - if you initiate something the law is NOT on your side.

And in this case there is not a lot of doubt who initiated this conflict. "Get the f--k outta here", "What you got?" and shoving someone aggressively is cause for someone to fear for their safety. End of story.

The only way these guys end up in trouble is if a judge deems that the initial force used was enough to stop the conflict and then they continued on and turned the encounter from self defense to assault in itself. That moment is pretty clear - it's when the guy is in the choke hold on the floor. At this point it probably was over - but the problem I was told that the plaintiff/DA will have is that despite being f----d, he tried to aggressively keep hitting the guy. Now again, we all know that that attempt was laughable and not doing anything but it shows that the threat posed was still there so there may be cause by the defense to say "my client still felt endangered and that if he let go the plaintiff would have tried to continue what he started".

You can be disgusted with the fight, feel that the MMA kids went overboard and you aren't wrong but are the "f-ed", yeah not so sure about that.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

The only way these guys end up in trouble is if a judge deems that the initial force used was enough to stop the conflict

You are forgetting this took place in Norman, OK. The home of lovable Sooners like Baker "assaults police officers" Mayfield and Joe "punches a woman on video, knocking her out and breaking her face" Mixon.

Some OU-graduate judge is going to throw the book at them for embarrassing the Sooners like this. Their lawyer needs to request a change of venue to Stillwater ASAP.

hook em horns wrote:

You are forgetting this took place in Norman, OK. The home of lovable Sooners like Baker "assaults police officers" Mayfield and Joe "punches a woman on video, knocking her out and breaking her face" Mixon.

Some OU-graduate judge is going to throw the book at them for embarrassing the Sooners like this. Their lawyer needs to request a change of venue to Stillwater ASAP.

And that would be my guess of exactly how this goes down

Genny Cream Ale wrote:

but it will take Lance Ito, Robert Shapiro, F. Lee Bailey, Robert Kardashian, and Alan Dershowitz to get the bros out of this unscathed.

Or Jackie Childs....

MMA bro's Go Fund Me is up to $27,355 raised of $50,000 goal. A lot of folks are obviously sympatric.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

hook em horns wrote:

LOL! He was bleeding. Have you ever been in a fight? "Here, now that I have you in a chokehold that you're trying to escape from and stomp me and my brother into the ground, let me tell you about why you should not continue assaulting me..."

LOL! Goodnight. Again, wtf. How do people think like you?

We'll see what happens. The D.A. and the police are not LR tough guys and might see it as a vicious assault and not self-defense.

Especially when it's obvious the MMA guy attacked the wrong dude. The jerk in the blue pushed MMA guy when MMA guys' head was turned. He beat the shiite outta the wrong guy. Anyway, who cares? Buncha losers fighting in a bar bathroom.

Football player with big mouth lol ?

I predict that Spencer Jones will take up MMA training and then there will be a youtube special re-match between the two.

Well, this explains why OU wrestling has 7 national championships, while OU football can never make the CFP.

Losers.

Two OU football players walk into a bar wrote:

Well, this explains why OU wrestling has 7 national championships, while OU football can never make the CFP.

Losers.

There are many OU lineman that could have given our MMA hero a swirlie.

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

I predict that Spencer Jones will take up MMA training and then there will be a youtube special re-match between the two.

This is a great idea. All four could make millions. It could be a 2 v. 2 cage match. Give them six months to prepare (market the thing with more drama on Twitter) and charge $19.99 on Prime. I'd watch.