Running ability
Running potential
Hey Guys, I’m new to anything like this so hear me out.
Basically I just really wanted a variety of different opinions regarding my running and ultimately what my max potential would be.
I’ve been running on & off for the last 3 years.
5k (18:40) parkrun
Half marathon (1:27:26) track
400m (61s) track
These are my PB’s over different distances from what I’ve done.
I set those times without any training in particular just a parkrun on Saturdays.
I never really got hooked with running however when I’m doing bits I do actually really enjoy it.
Can anyone tell me what my realistic potential could be providing I completely change my approach & attitude towards running? I mean knuckle down properly and take it more seriously?
I’ve played sports all my life to be honest I’ve played football for around 16 years.
I’ve also played tennis regularly 3 times a week for the last 6 years which keeps me fit and healthy.
I’m 28, 6ft, slim build.
My diet is relatively good, I don’t smoke and only drink socially.
Resting heart rate of 46 and max 199.
Never suffered any injuries even in my football days so that for me is the key thing.
Ultimately I want to run a sub 3 marathon is this realistically achievable?
I look forward to any response!
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You will have to run a lot to find out, but it looks like you have plenty of potential for improvement.
It's good that you know your times at 400 5k and half marathon. A lot of runners don't give a 400 time and never find out. Basic speed endurance is very important for future development. -
All right well I was juuuuust about to dive into a huge bowl of organic granola with macadamia & flax milk ...
ummm sir? You ran a half marathon on the TRACK?? My goodness. How many laps is that? Are you still dizzy or have you recovered?
Is your marathon going to also be on the track? Here, have some granola and tell me all about whatever is wrong with you.
Oh - and yes, I do think you can run sub-3. Gotta lower than half marathon first though. Have you considered keeping it on the crete?
What do you think about running your marathon around a basketball court? Or perhaps in a 15 meter backyard in Southern California?
Hey now isn't this granola awfully good? Omp omp omp -
Hi, yes I’m gonna start putting some effort and dedication into my running and see what happens.
A close friend of mine told me I had some talent, in order to run them times without any running background was very good but I wasn’t really sure myself?
Could you say that because I’ve taken part in a variety of sports throughout my life has actually helped me to produce these performances?
In order to genuinely get the best out of myself do I need to start working at it now at 28 or have I left it too late?
What age in a athlete/runner would you see them run their best?
I have come to the realisation that I don’t wanna be one of those guys that say ‘I could of ran this’ or ‘I could of ran that’
You know what I mean? Haha -
Those times you wrote there and your still good age 28 points to at least a sub 16 min 5 k , a sub 1:14 half and a sub 2:35 marathon. This is absolutely realistic on only 5-6 sessions per week if I`m the coach. :) Welcome to magic world class coaching!
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You will probably keep improving for several years. At 28 you are still young. Build the training gradually and stay injury free. Hopefully you and everyone else will have a chance to race...who knows when, but soon, maybe? Perhaps?
Yes, I think your previous sports history probably helps.
This is the best place for training advice because you can get lots of replies and thete are thousands of posters here. And some idiot replies too as you have already seen. -
This is no joke, do you honestly think those potential times are achievable?
Granted, with some serious training and hard work of course?! 😲 -
CallumMcc93 wrote:
This is no joke, do you honestly think those potential times are achievable?
Granted, with some serious training and hard work of course?! 😲
It is a real possibility.
But do not listen to the Lizard JS. He is a fraudulent coach and his runners get worse under his training.
You can see his collection of lies here:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10353706
Now, like the first poster said, you will have to run a lot before you find out, unless your name is Kenenisa Cheptegei.
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The Wizard JS wrote:
Those times you wrote there and your still good age 28 points to at least a sub 16 min 5 k , a sub 1:14 half and a sub 2:35 marathon. This is absolutely realistic on only 5-6 sessions per week if I`m the coach. :) Welcome to magic world class coaching!
You should stop with your lies and with your irresponsible bs that creates unrealistic expectations.
You don't know if this guy is a 400/800 m type with reasonable endurance and you are talking about a 2:35 marathon?
Is it possible? Of course! When you don't know much about the athlete.
But you STATE that you can get him to those times.
What happened to Phil? Did he run the sub 2:19:00 you promised?
How about your Kenyan athlete Sammy Nyokaye who has been getting worse year after year under your (mis)guidance?
Advertise your coaching gig all you want but expect to be called out when you create this sort of expectations on people or when you lie. -
CallumMcc93 wrote:
This is no joke, do you honestly think those potential times are achievable?
Granted, with some serious training and hard work of course?! 😲
I have very long experience of elite running and now six years as an online coach. In contrary to what some stalkers here at LRC think, I never lie here and is very serious and trustworthy when I make a comment here. The times I tell you can do with me as your coach are realistic within 2-3 years if start now. There is no need for "hard work", just to be continuous at perfect individual training paces and stay away from severe injuries. Welcome to make a try. :) -
Kind of similar to your background, except that I'm currently a teenager in HS. Played soccer (football) all my life as well as other sports that just kept me active. I started with my school XC team in 2018 as a sophomore, ran an 18 mid that first season. The next year I ran 17 mid along with just cracking 5 in the mile during track season. I hadn't really done any serious training up to that point (averaged maybe 25 mpw summer of 2019) and then the pandemic hit. I used the spring and summer to just build an aerobic base at like 50-55mpw. Nothing crazy, just enough to make big jumps with my previously untrained aerobic system. This worked well for me as I was consistently in the low 16s in XC season, cracking 16 once and running 9:40 for the 3200m on the track. I also used a long run a few weeks ago as a solo HM TT and ran around a 1:18. My advice to you is just build up to a decent mileage level while being smart about stretching, hydrating, soft surfaces etc and just hold around the mileage level you choose for a while and you will see large drops in your times. You don't even have to do much speedwork in the earlier stages, just focus on building that aerobic base. Good luck!
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Hi, look this isn’t the place for a slanging match between any of us.
Obviously people have different opinions whether they are coaches or runners themselves or ex runners etc..
I mean it’s clear to see that nobody knows what type of runner I am given a certain distance or either track or roads, no one knows me personally here.
I’ve just pointed out what I’ve achieved regarding a few times over a few distances, generally I just wanted to see where i could go from there if I work at it.
Please keep the comments positive guys -
Trond Gudmundsson wrote:
The Wizard JS wrote:
Those times you wrote there and your still good age 28 points to at least a sub 16 min 5 k , a sub 1:14 half and a sub 2:35 marathon. This is absolutely realistic on only 5-6 sessions per week if I`m the coach. :) Welcome to magic world class coaching!
You should stop with your lies and with your irresponsible bs that creates unrealistic expectations.
You don't know if this guy is a 400/800 m type with reasonable endurance and you are talking about a 2:35 marathon?
Is it possible? Of course! When you don't know much about the athlete.
But you STATE that you can get him to those times.
What happened to Phil? Did he run the sub 2:19:00 you promised?
How about your Kenyan athlete Sammy Nyokaye who has been getting worse year after year under your (mis)guidance?
Advertise your coaching gig all you want but expect to be called out when you create this sort of expectations on people or when you lie.
Called out??? What do you know about world class coaching? To me that expression "world class coaching " means ability to improve every runner regardless level when the coaching starts.
I never promised that Phil would run a sub 2:19 within the relatively short time I got to coach him. But from a not so good shape when the coaching started I at least got him to run a new PB at 10 miles, a 1:10 half at halfway of his marathon and a couple of solo 5 k:s close to 15 min . What I promised was that I had coached him to at least a sub 2:20 marathon if I had got 2-3 more years to coach him.
What you and a few others don`t understand is that I`m not depending on "type" of the individual runner . My basic system is easy ( for me! ) to adapt to the needs of the individual runner`s improvement. -
You ran a 1/2 marathon without training? You had to do some training. I put your PRs at 17:30 and 1:24 if you train seriously.
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CallumMcc93 wrote:
Hi, look this isn’t the place for a slanging match between any of us.
Obviously people have different opinions whether they are coaches or runners themselves or ex runners etc..
I mean it’s clear to see that nobody knows what type of runner I am given a certain distance or either track or roads, no one knows me personally here.
I’ve just pointed out what I’ve achieved regarding a few times over a few distances, generally I just wanted to see where i could go from there if I work at it.
Please keep the comments positive guys
And the most positive comment is that you can reach at least the times I told on just 5-6 sessions per week . No problem at all. Keep it simple. :) -
No I didn’t do any training for the half M I ran.
I was simply just doing the parkrun weekly that’s it.
3 miles on a Saturday isn’t really training in my eyes..
I felt in good shape and went to my local track and just set my goal of sub 1:30 which then I went on and ran a comfortable 1:27 -
How did you feel the 2 days following it?
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Legs were a bit tight and what not but generally fine, recovered pretty well in fact.
Did the half on a Wednesday then did parkrun on the Saturday and ran a PR lol -
It's not rocket science. Look up Bowerman's/Dellinger's hard/easy system, working into 2 interval sessions weekly and you'll be good to go. My first marathon was 2:40 by gradually increasing mileage over 3 months, hills, fartlek, no speed sessions. If I had done intervals, probably in mid to low 2:30s.
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The Wizard JS wrote:
CallumMcc93 wrote:
Hi, look this isn’t the place for a slanging match between any of us.
Obviously people have different opinions whether they are coaches or runners themselves or ex runners etc..
I mean it’s clear to see that nobody knows what type of runner I am given a certain distance or either track or roads, no one knows me personally here.
I’ve just pointed out what I’ve achieved regarding a few times over a few distances, generally I just wanted to see where i could go from there if I work at it.
Please keep the comments positive guys
And the most positive comment is that you can reach at least the times I told on just 5-6 sessions per week . No problem at all. Keep it simple. :)
Callum, by all means, get coached by Jan if you want, I am not discouraging you.
All I am saying is that his lies have been exposed on that thread and I advise caution.
Jan, don't even try. Keep this positive. Stop lying.
Callum, maybe you didn't see my previous question. Do you know your splits for the 5k PB?