I'm planning to run a 1500m race at about Kipchoge's sub 2 effort pace.
Should I wear spikes, or vaporflys? The vaporflys are heavier, but they feel like they give me a good boost.
I'm planning to run a 1500m race at about Kipchoge's sub 2 effort pace.
Should I wear spikes, or vaporflys? The vaporflys are heavier, but they feel like they give me a good boost.
If you trained in spikes, then spikes.
Wearing anything other than spikes for races on track a sign of weakness. Why would you wear shoes that cost 300 USD when racing a 1500m, don't you have faith in your own training, your own abilities? Its you vs the clock or you vs the other people at the start line, no outside help from 40 cm shoes that look like trampolines.
Not allowed in track races anymore due to regulations. Otherwise a good shoe to do it with, especially if not used to spikes. People underestimate the Next% even at fast paces on people where they work really well on (for me, 28.0 200m with Next% feels similar/even easier than the LT4, which is one of the best non-spike shoes).
If you have power stride length can be insane with the Next%.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Not allowed in track races anymore due to regulations.
This is incorrect
I'd have some respect for yourself and wear spikes.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Not allowed in track races anymore due to regulations.
As long as this person does not plan on qualifying for the Olympics he should be alright.
get it faster wrote:
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Not allowed in track races anymore due to regulations.
As long as this person does not plan on qualifying for the Olympics he should be alright.
Not really... I think the NCAA also has a rule about stack height... additionally, you cannot set any USATF age-group records in those shoes.
But the post just says he's going to run a race at sub-2 marathon pace (4:15), which isn't really NCAA competitive; it just seems like OP is going for a PB in a time trial or an open race. If that's the case, then the Vapes or spikes would be fine...it just comes down to personal preference. I'd say that OP isn't really going to see much benefit from Next%s in a race that short, so spikes would probably be the way to go...but once again, it's just personal preference.
DougC wrote:
get it faster wrote:
As long as this person does not plan on qualifying for the Olympics he should be alright.
Not really... I think the NCAA also has a rule about stack height... additionally, you cannot set any USATF age-group records in those shoes.
So this guy who is going to run ~4:35 mile needs to worry about USATF age group records and NCAA restrictions?
aquashades wrote:
I'm planning to run a 1500m race at about Kipchoge's sub 2 effort pace.
Should I wear spikes, or vaporflys? The vaporflys are heavier, but they feel like they give me a good boost.
Grip of that shoe on track is pretty poor..... but go ahead and delude yourself
Not really... I think the NCAA also has a rule about stack height... additionally, you cannot set any USATF age-group records in those shoes.
The NCAA does not. The only stack height limit (in the 2020-21 rule book) is for high jump shoes
DougC wrote:
get it faster wrote:
As long as this person does not plan on qualifying for the Olympics he should be alright.
Not really... I think the NCAA also has a rule about stack height... additionally, you cannot set any USATF age-group records in those shoes.
Where is this NCAA rule you speak of
DougC wrote:
get it faster wrote:
[quote]LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Not allowed in track races anymore due to regulations.
you cannot set any USATF age-group records in those shoes.
Where'd you see that?
Spikes are still faster than vaporflys. The vaporflys are really only so good because the roads have never had access to spikes.
get it faster wrote:
DougC wrote:
Not really... I think the NCAA also has a rule about stack height... additionally, you cannot set any USATF age-group records in those shoes.
So this guy who is going to run ~4:35 mile needs to worry about USATF age group records and NCAA restrictions?
Exactly! You get it, I got it, the OP and others don't. Go figure.
Part of why the vf is so good on the rodes is the added cushion that saves the legs later in the race. You should’nt need that in a 1500, and spikes will feel faster and have better grip on a track.
That said if you’re coming off an injury and don’t feel comfortable in spikes yet I could see and argument for wearing the vf.
KAV wrote:
aquashades wrote:
I'm planning to run a 1500m race at about Kipchoge's sub 2 effort pace.
Should I wear spikes, or vaporflys? The vaporflys are heavier, but they feel like they give me a good boost.
Grip of that shoe on track is pretty poor..... but go ahead and delude yourself
Half of a track is bends. Cheater shoes are designed for straightaways; not bends. I can understand not wanting to wear spikes on a hard, unforgiving track (not all tracks are pristine), but why have none of you considered flex shoes like Nike Free or Reebok Realflex. The flexibility of a track spike with the cushioning of a road shoe.
Sweet Jesus, Mary & Joseph, why am I the only forward thinking visionary on here?
Spikes 100%
Training in VF on the track is fine to save your legs, and I've hit some good paces in them, but when I put on my spikes it's much easier run at 1500 pace.
I was wondering if vaporflys would be faster, they are heavier, even if they are a superfoam
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