Track coach called me "aerobically underdeveloped" at practice today.

9.5/10

Can't believe that people still haven't figured out that this guy is one of the main trolls on this site and getting them every single time he makes a thread..

Please don't respond to Sham 69. Sham 69 is a troll. Ignore him!

I like to joke around sometimes but please don't put me in the "troll" category. This is one of my honest posts. There have been some solid replies so far, thanks.

Ok let's quote you from your thread created 8 months ago, titled:

"I'm a high schooler looking to run D1. Comment on this thread if you are a D1 coach and interested."

I just started running alone 4 months ago and improved my mile from a 6:16 to a 4:48. I also am very trainable. I have a streak of doing a 6x400 track workout every day since when I first started running. I do the 400s on an 85% effort and in between 400s I do a 100 at 95% effort. I bench 120 and do abs everyday. It's hard to do squats after running altogether so I skip those altogether.

Post offers in the comments.

No high mileage coaches please.

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8 months ago, you were a 6:16 miler. It's a sign of terrible endurance to only be able to run a 6:16 mile as male HS kid.

Your training costs of intervals every day and low mileage. It worked for you, you improved with it. In another thread you were talking about easy runs should be run fast, at least 7 min/miles and you like to pick up the pace with the other studs to "drop the noobs" during the easy runs.

Highest mileage you ever did was 40 mpw.

Now you are targeting a 4:20 mile, completely die in the 3rd lap, BUT want to lecture your coach that you are not aerobically underdeveloped? Hahaha. Sure, in these 8 months starting as 6:16 miler you completely maxed out your aerobic system, that's supposed to take around 12-15 years to fully develop for every other runner!

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10195046

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

9.5/10

Can't believe that people still haven't figured out that this guy is one of the main trolls on this site and getting them every single time he makes a thread..

I did.

LateRunnerPhil wrote:

you completely maxed out your aerobic system, that's supposed to take around 12-15 years to fully develop for every other runner!

I respect your opinion Phil, you seem pretty smart. But 12-15 years? Really? I think you're talking about marathoners or something. Leo Dashbach ran under 4 minutes over the summer as a senior. Does this mean that can go way faster in a decade? Like 3:40s? Because no American high schooler except for Alan Webb (I think) has ran in the 3:40s after breaking 4 in high school.

I never could handle mileage more than in the 50s, but ran all my PRs there. If you can handle the mileage, it will help you- esp. if you are not a fast twitch type guy. If you have good natural speed, 50 is still a good place to be.

You are only young once, as has been said. You recover quicker when younger, now is the time to push your limits.

LateRunnerPhil is correct, 12-15 years to FULLY develop one aerobic system. It takes 24-28 weeks to develop one's aerobic system in a season. Once one has developed their aerobic system for a macrocycle (24-28 weeks) then they can add more work to further improve their aerobic system.

889 wrote:

I never could handle mileage more than in the 50s, but ran all my PRs there. If you can handle the mileage, it will help you- esp. if you are not a fast twitch type guy. If you have good natural speed, 50 is still a good place to be.

Are you saying that a FT guy should not run as much as 50 mpw?

Everyone knows, unless you're attracting the hottest high school cheerleaders by starring on your football team, that the entire government controlled educational experience is a zero-sum game. Time to get out now while your still young and your mind is not turned into mush! Better yet, it may be that time to break the bonds of parental entanglement and start making it on your own in this world of woe, rat racing, and tax dodging.

Tell your coach, that the constraints of his limited coaching methods are holding you back and the team will have to do without your considerable and yet untapped potential.

Tell your parents, you'll be skipping the rest of high school and college and would like a check for $100K to get you started on this incredible the journey called "Adulthood."

With this money you could do an unlimited amount of things, possibly this:

1. Head to Flag

2. Rent a inexpensive room

3. Start documenting your journey on Youtube

4. Work your way up to 100 mile weeks running

5. Start a running website specializing in "Pure Hate"

6. After you obtain 100K internet followers start selling merch

7. Higher a Canadian to post on your site to increase the oddball traffic

8. Retire at 25.

8. Spend rest of life looking for suitable Ukrainian hottie for wife

Linden Arden wrote:

The Truth.... wrote:

A whole lot of god awful advice.

Actually, it wasn't a whole lot of advice. It was one piece of advice, namely: do not run for your school-sanctioned teams. That's it. One thing.

Excellent advice, too. At my high school, there were no decent distance runners who did 'run track' or 'go out for track' as it may have been said back then. What does the school and coach offer? Nothing that I was aware of. Free shoes? No. Free Gatorade? Not even. Waste of time.

By the way, it wasn't me giving myself a big Amen! on the first page. You're no longer allowed to use more than one name per thread. JS is aware of that rule; he has to go back and forth between multiple computers now. But why would anyone think it was me, or put another way, that there couldn't be more than one person with the same idea?

Anyone younger than 50 may not realize this (that's cool, not being derogatory, you wouldn't be aware of it) that in the '70s and '80s teenage distance runners often had no school affiliation. Sure, most of them attended a school, but the school wasn't in charge of their running. Road races up to full marathon were packed with teens. Winning the 17-and-under division was not easy. Going under 3 hours didn't get you on the podium for a top-3 award. Was this good? Was this bad? Well, it was the case. I know; I was there.

Fast forward a few decades, and is this sentiment - that non-school-affiliated running is valid - really that unpopular now? Why is that? Do you people really care about the glory of your schools? Given the frequency of threads beginning with "My coach....!", the whole idea that you must run for a school if you run at all doesn't seem to be working out very well. It worked great for a few Americans, but the concept doesn't seem to exist anywhere else. Keep in mind Rupp was coached by Al the whole time, so it's a stretch to put him into the category of 'school-employed coaches know best; look how he turned out'.

How many high school track runners are there? How many of those become pro runners with no other job? Less than 1%. Nowhere near 1% of 1%, actually. Your 'do not consider running outside of your school's program' experiment does not seem to be working.

whole post is a big lol. your 3rd lap shouldnt be way slower than the other 3, and 40 miles a week isnt really a whole ton for a miler

I bet you're a real gem to coach.

Op goes home devastated.