And if Congress passes a $5 trillion spending bill and Fat Hurts claims Ameriicans "will save a ton of money." How does that work? The government itself has no money to pay for that $5 trillion. The taxpayer has to pay for it. Fat Hurts still hasn't said how American will save a ton of money. The only way that bill gets paid for is for the American taxpayer to pay for it. So the American taxpayer is not "saving a ton of money" He is "paying a ton of money.""
How crazy would this thread be if the anti-Trumpers resorted to the same level of lying as Gary, Sally and ihate8 or all those guys?
Can you imagine if anti-Trumpers started stooping to left wing lies to post up? Such things are much harder to find, but I'm sure we could find them.
I mean all these trumpers do here is find some lying right wing media clickbait and copy and paste it. Truth doesnt' matter, honor doesn't matter to them...it's all 'get the libs.'
Such a mismatch in this country between the gutter standards of Republicans and the much higher standards of Democrats. Total asymmetrical warfare.
Truth won in 2020 but no guarantees it will going forward.
You just posted a four year old article about Trump supporters' penis sizes.
1) Yes, taxes will be raised on all tax brackets EXCEPT those making between $10,000-$20,000 for some reason. Minimal raises in taxes for those under $100,000 per year, but raises nonetheless.
2) This is NOT the plan that Biden ran on (though I couldn't care less really because I don't mind that people need to pay more taxes, and I take it as a given that what ANY politician says on the campaign trail won't be exactly how things are...they can't control how things will be or negotiated). I do recognize that this is fodder for the right though, and I'm ok with it that it is.
3) No, the plan will not increase inflation and in fact it will not affect inflation one way or the other. So, the name of the Act is just BS, but it will not raise inflation one iota. It also will not lower inflation. Inflation has WAY too many other factors that affect it, and this little Act will do NOTHING there.
Wrong again. Raising taxes in any way during a recession will only lead to a Depression and also government spending is what got us into this mess in the first place, more spending will inflame inflation. The red earthquake this November will be massive.
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up"- Obama
1) Nope. Not wrong (unless Fat Hurts can show me that what he says is true).
2) We ARE in a recession, but it is shallow and mostly artificially created (due to huge GDP in 2021 after coming out of the pandemic). I know your simple brain thinks that statement is me being partisan which is why I haven't mentioned it before, but it's true. Your comment about a Depression shows once again how little you know about anything.
3) You know nothing about government spending or inflation. If you want to blame anyone for government spending, blame Reagan who set the precedent for outrageous government spending that has really not been curtailed since (other than a little bit by Clinton).
4) It's cute that you think any kind of red victory in November will mean anything. Par for the course for the party not in the White House to do well in midterms. Our big victory is already here...Biden, and not Trump, is in the White House, and now the Murdoch empire is turning its back on Trump. As long as that POS doesn't ever get back in the White House, I'm good.
Oh, and the price of gas continues to fall. $3.23 a gallon here in Central Ohio today in many places. Looks like Biden is getting it done.
And if Congress passes a $5 trillion spending bill and Fat Hurts claims Ameriicans "will save a ton of money." How does that work? The government itself has no money to pay for that $5 trillion. The taxpayer has to pay for it. Fat Hurts still hasn't said how American will save a ton of money. The only way that bill gets paid for is for the American taxpayer to pay for it. So the American taxpayer is not "saving a ton of money" He is "paying a ton of money.""
The only ones getting a tax increase are certain corporations and hedge fund managers.
Americans will save on prescription drugs, ACA premiums, electric cars, home solar, and other items.
The new taxes collected will be more than the spending.
Therefore, it saves the government money and reduces the deficit.
1) Yes, taxes will be raised on all tax brackets EXCEPT those making between $10,000-$20,000 for some reason. Minimal raises in taxes for those under $100,000 per year, but raises nonetheless.
2) This is NOT the plan that Biden ran on (though I couldn't care less really because I don't mind that people need to pay more taxes, and I take it as a given that what ANY politician says on the campaign trail won't be exactly how things are...they can't control how things will be or negotiated). I do recognize that this is fodder for the right though, and I'm ok with it that it is.
3) No, the plan will not increase inflation and in fact it will not affect inflation one way or the other. So, the name of the Act is just BS, but it will not raise inflation one iota. It also will not lower inflation. Inflation has WAY too many other factors that affect it, and this little Act will do NOTHING there.
There is some BS report out there that says that because some corporations get taxed more then other Americans are taxed "indirectly". Don't fall for it.
The bill does not raise taxes on those making under $400,000. Period. End of story.
Look at all those tax increases in the last column over $30K per year.
And if Congress passes a $5 trillion spending bill and Fat Hurts claims Ameriicans "will save a ton of money." How does that work? The government itself has no money to pay for that $5 trillion. The taxpayer has to pay for it. Fat Hurts still hasn't said how American will save a ton of money. The only way that bill gets paid for is for the American taxpayer to pay for it. So the American taxpayer is not "saving a ton of money" He is "paying a ton of money.""
The only ones getting a tax increase are certain corporations and hedge fund managers.
Americans will save on prescription drugs, ACA premiums, electric cars, home solar, and other items.
The new taxes collected will be more than the spending.
Therefore, it saves the government money and reduces the deficit.
Incorrect!! How many times do I have to prove to you that you're wrong? I just posted the proof. Everybody making over $30,000 per year is paying more in tax. You are dead wrong Fat boy. Take the "L" and move on.
And if Congress passes a $5 trillion spending bill and Fat Hurts claims Ameriicans "will save a ton of money." How does that work? The government itself has no money to pay for that $5 trillion. The taxpayer has to pay for it. Fat Hurts still hasn't said how American will save a ton of money. The only way that bill gets paid for is for the American taxpayer to pay for it. So the American taxpayer is not "saving a ton of money" He is "paying a ton of money.""
The only ones getting a tax increase are certain corporations and hedge fund managers.
Americans will save on prescription drugs, ACA premiums, electric cars, home solar, and other items.
The new taxes collected will be more than the spending.
Therefore, it saves the government money and reduces the deficit.
Again, how does a $5 trillion spending bill save Americans a ton of money? You talk about new taxes. Those are new taxes on American taxpayers. How are they saving a ton of money if they are being taxed more??? It seems instead of saving Americans a ton of money Americans are losing a ton of money with additional taxes.
And if Congress passes a $5 trillion spending bill and Fat Hurts claims Ameriicans "will save a ton of money." How does that work? The government itself has no money to pay for that $5 trillion. The taxpayer has to pay for it. Fat Hurts still hasn't said how American will save a ton of money. The only way that bill gets paid for is for the American taxpayer to pay for it. So the American taxpayer is not "saving a ton of money" He is "paying a ton of money.""
I'll let Fat Hurts defend his position on how he thinks this particular spending bill will save a lot of money, but just to educate YOU in general about government spending, bills, and taxes...
1) Most spending bills have an end point, so ones that have been passed in the past run out at some point. New spending bills aren't just money that is added onto what has been committed to in the past.
2) The US population continues to grow. It would be wise of us to encourage even more immigrants to come here to increase it even more as we clearly need more workers today. More people means more taxes being paid, but it also means more services are needed, so any bills that come up in the future are addressing those realities.
3) The government has the right and the ability to collect taxes, so it DOES have the ability to pay for things. Now, it needs a serious overhaul that neither party has been successful at doing since before Reagan at a minimum, but when there's a revenue stream like the US Government has, yes, it has the ability to pay for things. Your point has no validity just because you say the money comes from taxpayers. That's how governments operate.
And yet that's not true, is it? If you're a believer and a member of a religion, you will have lost time, energy, money, and *freedom* in the only life that you get.
Moreover, what is there *is* a supernatural, divine being (SDB)--but not the one you worship? And what if that SDB is jealous, and condemns all of those who worship the god-of-Abraham to eternal torture after death--while letting everybody else just die? You cannot *prove* that that isn't the case.
Finally, why is it that no one ever seems to think about what "eternal life" would mean? Someone gave me this image years ago:
Imagine a ball of lead the size of our sun i.e. bigger than a million Earths. Every hundred years a butterfly (immune to the ball's gravity somehow) flutters by, and brushes the ball once with a wingtip, liberating a few lead atoms--which, similarly immune to gravity, float away.
When that ball of lead is worn to nothing, long long long after the heat death of our universe, ONE SECOND of eternity will have elapsed. And eternity has an *infinite* number of such seconds.
Just imagine it. Every conceivable experience and sensation, over and over and over, with no possible escape--except perhaps through madness, and then it wouldn't really be *you* having eternal life, would it?
What freedom has being Catholic cost me? I can do everything that I want
That whole Pope thing. Pope Ratziinger was a Nazi. The Vat needed to be de-Nazified. Plus, it’s been proven that your allegiances are to the Vat. So pledges and oaths to America were all tongue in cheek.
There is some BS report out there that says that because some corporations get taxed more then other Americans are taxed "indirectly". Don't fall for it.
The bill does not raise taxes on those making under $400,000. Period. End of story.
Ok...that would be cool if true. Got a link to educate me on that? I looked around quite a bit.
Several articles give a big headline about how the bill will "Raise taxes on those making under $400,000". But those articles that dig into the study show that their own headline is total BS. For example, this text comes from the Daily Mail:
The study by the Joint Committee on Taxation .....
But the study speculates about the effect of the package's 15 percent minimum corporate tax rate, which it suggests could be passed off onto workers and shareholders.
It also factors in possible effects on the stock market that would affect company shareholders and people who rely on pensions and other similar funds.
Positive effects of green energy and healthcare tax credits, as well as lower prescription drug costs, were not factored into Republicans' calculations.
The only ones getting a tax increase are certain corporations and hedge fund managers.
Americans will save on prescription drugs, ACA premiums, electric cars, home solar, and other items.
The new taxes collected will be more than the spending.
Therefore, it saves the government money and reduces the deficit.
Incorrect!! How many times do I have to prove to you that you're wrong? I just posted the proof. Everybody making over $30,000 per year is paying more in tax. You are dead wrong Fat boy. Take the "L" and move on.
You did not post any proof at all. Your article didn't say anything about where the taxes come from. It just claims they are there without any reference to the bill at all.
Show me where in the bill there is a tax on anyone making under $400,000.
Incorrect!! How many times do I have to prove to you that you're wrong? I just posted the proof. Everybody making over $30,000 per year is paying more in tax. You are dead wrong Fat boy. Take the "L" and move on.
You did not post any proof at all. Your article didn't say anything about where the taxes come from. It just claims they are there without any reference to the bill at all.
Show me where in the bill there is a tax on anyone making under $400,000.
if corporate taxes are higher EVERYONE assumes those higher taxes.
Incorrect!! How many times do I have to prove to you that you're wrong? I just posted the proof. Everybody making over $30,000 per year is paying more in tax. You are dead wrong Fat boy. Take the "L" and move on.
You did not post any proof at all. Your article didn't say anything about where the taxes come from. It just claims they are there without any reference to the bill at all.
Show me where in the bill there is a tax on anyone making under $400,000.
It's a PDF from the Joint Senate Committee on Taxation. That's their report and the taxes are showing increases above $30,000. If you can't believe that, then I can't help you. You lost this argument. Stop with the spinning and excuses. Take your "L" and move on.
The only ones getting a tax increase are certain corporations and hedge fund managers.
Americans will save on prescription drugs, ACA premiums, electric cars, home solar, and other items.
The new taxes collected will be more than the spending.
Therefore, it saves the government money and reduces the deficit.
Incorrect!! How many times do I have to prove to you that you're wrong? I just posted the proof. Everybody making over $30,000 per year is paying more in tax. You are dead wrong Fat boy. Take the "L" and move on.
Be nice to Fat Boy. He is a child of god, with more or less the same rights as people of higher quality lifestyles. His heavenly soul will rocket with the angels of the sheol under the eye of J. Christ who enthralled us all with his wondrous ascension to Kingdom Come after that fateful day he was crucified by Italian mercenaries under the pay of Pompeii.
Fat Boy is also alleged to have Covid, so we all wish him well as he battles god’s insidious virus and snot and congestion and phlegm.
Fat Boy (FB) has proved he has value, despite his shortcoming, Gary Disco.
You did not post any proof at all. Your article didn't say anything about where the taxes come from. It just claims they are there without any reference to the bill at all.
Show me where in the bill there is a tax on anyone making under $400,000.
if corporate taxes are higher EVERYONE assumes those higher taxes.
No they don't. And it's definitely not a tax on individuals making under $400,000.
You did not post any proof at all. Your article didn't say anything about where the taxes come from. It just claims they are there without any reference to the bill at all.
Show me where in the bill there is a tax on anyone making under $400,000.
It's a PDF from the Joint Senate Committee on Taxation. That's their report and the taxes are showing increases above $30,000. If you can't believe that, then I can't help you. You lost this argument. Stop with the spinning and excuses. Take your "L" and move on.
It is not the "Joint Senate Committee on Taxation". It's the "Joint Committee on Taxation".
Their report does not show anywhere in the bill that someone making less than $400,000 pays more in taxes. Republicans have lied about what the report actually says.
You lost the argument and you got fooled by bogus headlines. Nothing new here.
The only ones getting a tax increase are certain corporations and hedge fund managers.
Americans will save on prescription drugs, ACA premiums, electric cars, home solar, and other items.
The new taxes collected will be more than the spending.
Therefore, it saves the government money and reduces the deficit.
Incorrect!! How many times do I have to prove to you that you're wrong? I just posted the proof. Everybody making over $30,000 per year is paying more in tax. You are dead wrong Fat boy. Take the "L" and move on.
Nope. You just fell for a bogus headline as usual.