States with most new residents in 2020: Tennessee, Texas and Florida

How long have you lived in Colorado? I was born here and can trace my ancestry back to when Colorado was a territory. Since I was born, our state voted for Ford, Reagan (twice), Bush Sr., Clinton (1st term and only because Perot took over 20% of the vote), Dole, and Bush Jr. (2 terms). It's only in the past twenty years that the state shifted to Blue (two terms of Obama, Hilary, and now Biden), which corresponds with people immigrating here from California and New York. Not to mention the slew of taxes, drug legalization and labor friendly laws enacted in the past few elections. They've filled the state with homeless camps and illegal pot grows on forest lands, wrecked the environment (by developing in areas without water and increased reliance on intermountain transfers that are drying up rivers on the West Slope), and in general messed the place up. I can hardly recognize my home town any more and moved away from the main population center to my wife's home town where I have found at least a semblance of the Colorado I grew up with.

Change can be hard, Boomer. No need to be a drama queen about it, though.

Actually, CA has been losing people to other states since the 90s (negative net migration). But that loss has been more than offset by immigration from other countries. However, that inflow has been greatly reduced in the last few years and it will be near zero in 2020.

This is kind of a cool app from the Census Bureau. The data is a few years old but you can see county-level migration patterns.

Flagpole wrote:

That is NOT a win for Conservatives.

It's a moral victory Flaggy. People leaving California en masse = clearest refutation of California's policies.

joedirtty2 wrote:

Since I was born, our state voted for Ford, Reagan (twice), Bush Sr., Clinton (1st term and only because Perot took over 20% of the vote), Dole, and Bush Jr. (2 terms). It's only in the past twenty years that the state shifted to Blue (two terms of Obama, Hilary, and now Biden), which corresponds with people immigrating here from California and New York.

Can you be so sure? I'm not discounting it but it's also likely the things that attract Democrats to Colorado also attract Republicans (maybe even more so).

Maybe the people leaving CA and NY has been equally from conservatives (not everyone in a blue state is blue) and home Coloradans have just become more liberal along with everyone else in the last 20 years.

I moved to Houston, TX in 2000 from Ohio. Back then, Harris County (the county that Houston is in) was so solidly Republican that most of the judges ran unopposed in elections. Now, it is exactly the opposite and Dem judges who are on the moderate side are getting primaried (successfully) by more progressive judges who are predominately women of color. In 2014, Cornyn won reelection to the senate 61% to 34%. In 2020, he was reelected 53% to 44% against a pretty lousy Dem challenger (Cruz only beat Beto 51 to 48). State government is solidly red due to blatant gerrymandering, but even those margins are closing in on the Dem side.

A good bit of Texas migration is temporary. The oil industry rotates people around a lot to spread out the burden of working overseas, offshore and in rural places like W. Texas and N. Dakota. In my kids' elementary school classes, they turn over about 1/4 of the class during the year as oil industry people move back to the east/west coast or get sent abroad.

Texas is no great leader for big business. Texas has to import a lot of talent as Texas colleges fall well short of supplying enough highly skilled workers. Instead, Texas has become a place to dump your mid level employment hubs as the coasts have become too expensive. Dallas has a lot of finance and insurance jobs. If you fail to pay your car note, odds are pretty good that someone in Dallas is going to manage repossession and remarketing for the lender. Houston is still heavily dependent on oil and gas but has diversified into medical and other industries. Austin is a tech hub, but is still just a shadow of what Silicon Valley is.

Texas was cheap in 2000, but in 2020 it is not cheap. Close in neighborhoods in the big metro areas are all seeing most homes go into the $1 mil+ range. The burbs with the best schools are seeing graham cracker sided McMansions go for $500k+ with people spending 2 hours a day in the car commuting into the city. It is just that Texas is not stupid expensive like the east and west coasts have become and with no real land barriers in places like Dallas and Houston, is able to keep sprawling without limitation to meet new demand for real estate.

Harris moderate?

Good Lord...

Yep. This is accurate. I grew up here. But, wake up to the new reality that your new neighbors are going to be the Flagpoles of the world with their moral and political “superiority.” Liberals eventually leave $hithole states that they helped to create, only to have their policies migrate with them. Covid has only accelerated this timeline.

TAA wrote:

Not a surprise. A lot of my friends from high school and college moved to those states. I personally don't see the appeal of Texas or Florida, but I still live in Ohio so what do I know.

I don’t see the appeal as much for younger single people, but for families, it’s big. My job transfer here was lateral, roughly the same salary and bonus as my old job. But no state income tax, and my house cost 100k less here and is 1000 sq feet bigger (and newer). When you have kids, you appreciate the space. The public schools here in the suburbs are highly ranked and my kids are happy in them. Plus winter is mild and mostly sunny here compared to the grey freezing Midwest. The only negative is the landscape is very flat and ugly and the architecture is bland in the suburbs. I can see how it would be hard to leave the beauty of CA (beaches, mountains, forests...etc), but Midwest wasn’t that beautiful either

TLDR, basically, on same income, better quality of life

Yup. 110% agree with this post.

Yeah

Democrats are moving out of California and moving to Texas, Tennessee and Florida.

Are you really celebrating having more Democrats in those states?

A higher population density is the usual determination of a state voting Democrat over Republican.

elviejo wrote:

I couldn't care less about the politics of those leaving the SF Bay Area. I'm conservative, dislike and disagree with most politics here but after grumbling for years that I wanted OUT I got the best of both worlds! The aholes are the ones moving, leaving all this great weather, mountain trails, beaches, the Sierras all to me! I'm retiring this in February and I get to enjoy it all without traffic or crowds. Sayonara sukers and don't come back.

The population decline in SF is miniscule over the last 3 years:

Year Population Growth Rate

2021 3,313,000 -0.03%

2020 3,314,000 -0.12%

2019 3,318,000 -0.21%

If you notice fewer crowds, it's just due to the pandemic -- fewer outside visitors and local people just staying home.

These people you consider "aholes" are still there and will be out and about as soon as this pandemic is over.

roller coaster wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That is NOT a win for Conservatives.

It's a moral victory Flaggy. People leaving California en masse = clearest refutation of California's policies.

1) Moral victories are never really victories.

2) Your assumption that people are leaving CA due to the political climate there is based on nothing. I used to live in CA. We left because it was too expensive. This was back in the early 90s. Now, we have money and might very well retire in CA. We didn't leave because of political considerations, and we aren't thinking of moving back due to political considerations.

Lots of reasons to leave CA that have nothing to do with politics - fires, earthquakes, air pollution in LA, too crowded, too expensive.

Johnny Carson wrote:

Harris moderate?

Good Lord...

Well, she is.

As a native of Colorado. I am very happy to see the Republicans in the state focus on "Der dem outsiders" instead of their failure of governence.

You probably grew up in small minded Colorado. That's not something to be missed unless you are fool.

RINO wrote:

Yep. This is accurate. I grew up here. But, wake up to the new reality that your new neighbors are going to be the Flagpoles of the world with their moral and political “superiority.” Liberals eventually leave $hithole states that they helped to create, only to have their policies migrate with them. Covid has only accelerated this timeline.

Republicans whine about "elites" but what is bad about being smarter and better than you? I'm proud of it.

Additionally "liberals" states are subsidizing the education of crappy conservative states. Crappy GOP don't fund education and have a dumber populace, thus requiring a imported well educated people. Much like the rest of the economy the blue states are paying for the red states.

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So the Donald moved to Florida, what a gain.

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C. C. Writer wrote:

They are locusts. They have utterly destroyed the environment they lived in. They move on to other fertile land to destroy that now.

that's an apt description

If locust are cowardly scumbags its an apt description.

Flagpole wrote:

Johnny Carson wrote:

Harris moderate?

Good Lord...

Well, she is.

She was a moderate when she was sleeping with the married senior citizen Willy Brown. Now she is a commie.