So you've all gotten rid of your Apple and Google phones, right?

Yes. I have a Samsung Galaxy! Love it.

pends wrote:

Yes. I have a Samsung Galaxy! Love it.

+1

cv LS wrote:

pends wrote:

Yes. I have a Samsung Galaxy! Love it.

+1

And what platform does that run on?

America's fury wrote:

Otherwise, your boycott is not only pointless, it's just virtue signaling.

What boycott is that exactly?

Marksch wrote:

cv LS wrote:

+1

And what platform does that run on?

A platform of free speech, lower taxes, decreased aggressiveness in the Middle East, personal responsibility, justice, equality.

So you've all gotten rid of your Apple and Google phones, right?

Wrong, I've never owned one of their products, although I do admit that I have used the Google search engine.

This is kind of the crux of the problem, though. Big Tech has an oligopoly on the infrastructure for disseminating information in the modern world, and they have expressed a clear political agenda and desire to curate the information that filters through their infrastructure.

That should scare anyone with any kind of allegiance to democratic principles, not just a few knuckleheads who want to spread conspiracy theory memes.

CrispyChicken wrote:

So you've all gotten rid of your Apple and Google phones, right?

Wrong, I've never owned one of their products, although I do admit that I have used the Google search engine.

These companies that are so big are the way they are because they've created something that is extremely useful to so many people. Without them the our quality of life would be a little less. People will hate on this, but it's true. If their products weren't useful then they wouldn't have had success year over year the way they have, and some other company would have beaten them out with the new 'best product'.

Why wouldn't you use it? wrote:

CrispyChicken wrote:

So you've all gotten rid of your Apple and Google phones, right?

Wrong, I've never owned one of their products, although I do admit that I have used the Google search engine.

These companies that are so big are the way they are because they've created something that is extremely useful to so many people. Without them the our quality of life would be a little less. People will hate on this, but it's true. If their products weren't useful then they wouldn't have had success year over year the way they have, and some other company would have beaten them out with the new 'best product'.

Which would be fine if they were politically agnostic. AT&T doesn't censor things you can talk about on their phone lines, nor does Comcast limit websites you are allowed to access on their cables, nor HP ban certain opinions from coming out of its printers.

The second you give what is now essentially a media monopoly editorial power, you've got a serious problem.

Why wouldn't you use it? wrote:

CrispyChicken wrote:

So you've all gotten rid of your Apple and Google phones, right?

Wrong, I've never owned one of their products, although I do admit that I have used the Google search engine.

These companies that are so big are the way they are because they've created something that is extremely useful to so many people. Without them the our quality of life would be a little less. People will hate on this, but it's true. If their products weren't useful then they wouldn't have had success year over year the way they have, and some other company would have beaten them out with the new 'best product'.

Agree with you on this point for Google and Apple. Disagree for Facebook. It’s made our quality of life worse. People use it because it’s addictive and other people use it to make money off of these addicts: influencers/MLMs hawking products/Amazon affiliates...etc. And still others use it to stir up anger and incite riots in these addicts. People walk away from it having wasted time, spent money they never intended to, and generally feeling bad about their lives compared to others. It’s an online social connection casino gone wrong.

Is this about Parler?

Just web browse the Letsrun message board on your Apple and Google phone to trade disinformation.

America's fury wrote:

Otherwise, your boycott is not only pointless, it's just virtue signaling.

Well, I think you're kind of confirming what people are so upset about. These companies basically have a monopoly on the industry and are determining what you are and are not allowed to read/watch.

I'd love to have an OS on a phone that allows Parler. Can you name one?

huh what wrote:

Why wouldn't you use it? wrote:

These companies that are so big are the way they are because they've created something that is extremely useful to so many people. Without them the our quality of life would be a little less. People will hate on this, but it's true. If their products weren't useful then they wouldn't have had success year over year the way they have, and some other company would have beaten them out with the new 'best product'.

Which would be fine if they were politically agnostic. AT&T doesn't censor things you can talk about on their phone lines, nor does Comcast limit websites you are allowed to access on their cables, nor HP ban certain opinions from coming out of its printers.

The second you give what is now essentially a media monopoly editorial power, you've got a serious problem.

and it's beyond ironic that the party of deregulation and pro-monopoly power, is now the party crying about the power of the tech companies.

"AT&T doesn't censor things you can talk about on their phone lines"

Of course not. If they did how then could the NSA monitor those discussions?

huh what wrote:

Why wouldn't you use it? wrote:

These companies that are so big are the way they are because they've created something that is extremely useful to so many people. Without them the our quality of life would be a little less. People will hate on this, but it's true. If their products weren't useful then they wouldn't have had success year over year the way they have, and some other company would have beaten them out with the new 'best product'.

Which would be fine if they were politically agnostic. AT&T doesn't censor things you can talk about on their phone lines, nor does Comcast limit websites you are allowed to access on their cables, nor HP ban certain opinions from coming out of its printers.

The second you give what is now essentially a media monopoly editorial power, you've got a serious problem.

So you think using a printer is the same as speaking to millions of people? Twitter is public communication - it's more like television or radio, which certainly censor content.

When is something on twitter just political opinion vs a danger to the public? The question is who decides. Either companies like Twitter or FB have the right to determine their own content based on what they think is best for their business or we believe that is the role of government. We can't have it both ways.

Dril wrote:

huh what wrote:

Which would be fine if they were politically agnostic. AT&T doesn't censor things you can talk about on their phone lines, nor does Comcast limit websites you are allowed to access on their cables, nor HP ban certain opinions from coming out of its printers.

The second you give what is now essentially a media monopoly editorial power, you've got a serious problem.

and it's beyond ironic that the party of deregulation and pro-monopoly power, is now the party crying about the power of the tech companies.

...and similarly ironic that the left suddenly has a huge hard-on for corporate rights.

huh what wrote:

Dril wrote:

and it's beyond ironic that the party of deregulation and pro-monopoly power, is now the party crying about the power of the tech companies.

...and similarly ironic that the left suddenly has a huge hard-on for corporate rights.

Not really. It sounds like a lot of conservatives would support Elizabeth Warren's plan.

"Elizabeth Warren's Plan to Break Up Big Tech Explained"

swagman wrote:

huh what wrote:

...and similarly ironic that the left suddenly has a huge hard-on for corporate rights.

Not really. It sounds like a lot of conservatives would support Elizabeth Warren's plan.

"Elizabeth Warren's Plan to Break Up Big Tech Explained"

https://www.investopedia.com/amp/how-will-elizabeth-warren-break-up-big-tech-4772263

Smoke signals work well for line of sight communication, but are not all that secure if their code can be broken. Smoke signals also have a high carbon footprint and release particulate matter, but on the upside, the signals are powered by a renewable resource.

CrispyChicken wrote:

So you've all gotten rid of your Apple and Google phones, right?

Wrong, I've never owned one of their products, although I do admit that I have used the Google search engine.

Are you still using a blackberry?