For 4 missed tests. Didn't even bother making an excuse up for the first two. Should have at least claimed to have been caught in a 4 am.traffic jam heading out of Nairobi. Would have been enough to convince many here of his innocence.
Amazing that leading Kenyans get banned now and and it's not even mentioned here. If I hadn't posted this, it's unlikely anybody else would have. The home page now has a section title 'Big News From Kenya', but I guess Diamond League winners and World Junior Champions being banned for doping offences isn't big news from Kenya anymore.
Imagine if Bryce Hoppel had been banned. It would be front page and 50 threads started. Well, maybe not, LetsRun would probably say it proves all the Brits are dirty. Imagine then if somebody like Josh Kerr was banned? It would be front page and 50 threads started. LetsRun would use it as evidence that every British middle-distance runner in history was doped.
Oh and Kyle Langford must feel sick. He was robbed in 2013 of silver by Kipketer at the World Youth Games. The other guy who finished ahead of him was Russian so also likely doped.
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1102812/kipketer-banned-two-years-aiu-doping
Alfred Kipketer banned for two years
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Such a shame. I thought he was clean.
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First of all it would help if you would understand human beings better than you do. There is the possibility that Kipketer is simply done with the sport. You seem to think that runners are slaves. You act as if these runners have to continue in the sport as long as possible. This is not reality. Did you train until you could not walk anymore? Some people recognize that athletics is simply part of life. Have you noticed the pandemic and its impact on athletics? Kipketer may indeed have been using PEDs but it is also possible that he is done with the sport for other reasons.
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Well I guess it makes some sense as he is well into his 30's now and the glory of the World U20 final a few years ago when he ran a 58 second first lap as a kid and still won is long past. Not sure that he wouldn't simply announce his retirement though, rather than missing tests and then be labelled a doper for the rest of his life. He bothered enough to turn up at the hearing and make excuses for two of the tests.
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Alfred Kipketer, born 1996.
People do not focus on this because Kipketer is pretty long past his best and his best came back in 2016, so even though he committed some infractions, he’s not on the radar right now because it’s almost as if he has retired. He ran a 1:44.50 in August 2019 but nothing in 2020 so he has been forgotten about. This is unfortunate but this is the way athletics works.
Athletics is a permanent revolving door of people coming in and people going out and especially in countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Japan with so much depth this type of news does not really register in a big way.
In addition, for the first infraction he claimed that he was on his way to Nairobi bringing his son who was very ill to hospital which seemed legitimate at the time.
2019 1:44.50 Estadio Vallehermoso, Madrid (ESP) 25 AUG 2019
2018 1:44.28 Nancy (FRA) 27 JUN 2018
2017 1:45.40 Shanghai Stadium, Shanghai (CHN) 13 MAY 2017
2016 1:42.87 Paris (FRA) 27 AUG 2016
2015 1:44.07 Nairobi (KEN) 01 AUG 2015
2014 1:43.95 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 27 JUL 2014
2013 1:48.01 Donetsk (UKR) 13 JUL 2013 -
Ghost1 wrote:
Alfred Kipketer, born 1996.
People do not focus on this because Kipketer is pretty long past his best and his best came back in 2016, so even though he committed some infractions, he’s not on the radar right now because it’s almost as if he has retired. He ran a 1:44.50 in August 2019 but nothing in 2020 so he has been forgotten about. This is unfortunate but this is the way athletics works.
Athletics is a permanent revolving door of people coming in and people going out and especially in countries like Kenya, Ethiopia and Japan with so much depth this type of news does not really register in a big way.
In addition, for the first infraction he claimed that he was on his way to Nairobi bringing his son who was very ill to hospital which seemed legitimate at the time.
2019 1:44.50 Estadio Vallehermoso, Madrid (ESP) 25 AUG 2019
2018 1:44.28 Nancy (FRA) 27 JUN 2018
2017 1:45.40 Shanghai Stadium, Shanghai (CHN) 13 MAY 2017
2016 1:42.87 Paris (FRA) 27 AUG 2016
2015 1:44.07 Nairobi (KEN) 01 AUG 2015
2014 1:43.95 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 27 JUL 2014
2013 1:48.01 Donetsk (UKR) 13 JUL 2013
What about the other 3 missed tests!
Not many races in 2020 due to Covid so pure speculation that he had retired.
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Correction: The hospital event was for the third whereabouts protocole.
Not making excuses for Kipketer, but he does not seem to care about the consequences and he’s out of the loop right now and I don’t think he’s even training. The ban ends in November 2021 so it’s not that far away but I think he has lost his motivation for athletics. In addition, as most people know already, it is suspected that he is older than his stated birthdate of 1996. That was to facilitate running in a junior world championship.
I think people in the west have forgotten that most Kenyans and Ethiopians run to make money - they don’t run as a hobby like we do.
COVID-19 has absolutely been tragic for most professional runners in Kenya and Ethiopia and so you can understand the lack of motivation for running at this time with no end in sight to this pandemic. -
His 4th missed test was in 2019 when he was still competing.
Ghost you'll need to look for another excuse
https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1102812/kipketer-banned-two-years-aiu-doping#:~:text=Boxing-,Former%20world%20junior%20800m%20champion%20Kipketer%20handed,year%20ban%20for%20missing%20tests&text=Former%20world%20junior%20800%20metres,within%20a%2012%2Dmonth%20period. -
Here we go again.
The obvious is that he is dodging a positive.
My view is that whereabouts had been a joke and the athletes had become complacent knowing that and sort of lie and dodgy excuse or bribe would remove the problem.
Now the AIU has clamped on both the incompetent and those who wish to cheat.
I favour the former.
We must remember that the tester can and does turn up outside the “ hour” and this a missed test would act as a big red flag to just go and test them.
Await a lot more of these bans sat there waiting to be announced.
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Confirmation he was suspended for the whole of 2020.
https://athleticsweekly.com/athletics-news/two-year-ban-for-alfred-kipketer-1039939300/ -
Coevett wrote:
For 4 missed tests.
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Amazing that leading Kenyans get banned now and and it's not even mentioned here. If I hadn't posted this, it's unlikely anybody else would have.
With the formation of the AIU and their new approach to make a public announcement of provisional suspensions before the final ban, these topics now get talked about twice.
There were a few threads about 1 year ago when Kipketer was provisionally suspended for whereabouts failures. I think everything that could be said, was said then.
What more can you say really, besides what you concluded at the start: he missed 4 tests. -
rekrunner wrote:
Coevett wrote:
For 4 missed tests.
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Amazing that leading Kenyans get banned now and and it's not even mentioned here. If I hadn't posted this, it's unlikely anybody else would have.
With the formation of the AIU and their new approach to make a public announcement of provisional suspensions before the final ban, these topics now get talked about twice.
There were a few threads about 1 year ago when Kipketer was provisionally suspended for whereabouts failures. I think everything that could be said, was said then.
What more can you say really, besides what you concluded at the start: he missed 4 tests.
Situation has changed in that we are now having more and more high profile whereabouts cases and some are wondering if the sport is going to sink because of the incompetent personal skills of athletes. -
It's pretty clear that these days, most sane people assume Kenyans are doping, so it's not a story when any are busted, or miss too many tests.
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Fine!!! So with ALMOST 70 KENYANS ATHLETES RIGHT NOW SUSPENDED FOR ANTIDOPING VIOLATIONS , AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ALL OF THEM ARE FROM DISTANCE RUNNING ( EXCEPT FEW ONES )!!! I THINK THEY HAVE A GIANT PROBLEM , COVERED ALSO FROM THE PANDEMIC , NO RACES, NO TEST.
I GUESS THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF RUNNERS (DISTANCE RUNNERS) SUSPENDED AT THE SAME TIME!!!
WHAT ABOUT IF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO ANOTHER COUNTRY LIKE USA, ITALY, OR JAPAN. They would have been BANNED IMMEDIATELY FROM THE RACES -
rekrunner wrote:
Coevett wrote:
For 4 missed tests.
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Amazing that leading Kenyans get banned now and and it's not even mentioned here. If I hadn't posted this, it's unlikely anybody else would have.
With the formation of the AIU and their new approach to make a public announcement of provisional suspensions before the final ban, these topics now get talked about twice.
There were a few threads about 1 year ago when Kipketer was provisionally suspended for whereabouts failures. I think everything that could be said, was said then.
What more can you say really, besides what you concluded at the start: he missed 4 tests.
From the man who believes in innocence until proven guilty? Well then again, you insist they are innocent even when proven guilty, so.... -
I just did a search and there was only one thread on Kipketer's suspension, and that was made more than a week after by somebody who couldn't believe that nobody else had started one (I think I was on vacation at the time else I would have).
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look, you simply cant have guilt by association.
Just because you have lax enforcement in one country
and loads of people from that country getting busted in a particular sport
and loads records in that sport
you cant say they are all guilty.
where would that leave Usain Bolt? -
Bluesky wrote:
Fine!!! So with ALMOST 70 KENYANS ATHLETES RIGHT NOW SUSPENDED FOR ANTIDOPING VIOLATIONS , AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT ALL OF THEM ARE FROM DISTANCE RUNNING ( EXCEPT FEW ONES )!!! I THINK THEY HAVE A GIANT PROBLEM , COVERED ALSO FROM THE PANDEMIC , NO RACES, NO TEST.
I GUESS THIS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF RUNNERS (DISTANCE RUNNERS) SUSPENDED AT THE SAME TIME!!!
WHAT ABOUT IF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO ANOTHER COUNTRY LIKE USA, ITALY, OR JAPAN. They would have been BANNED IMMEDIATELY FROM THE RACES
Are you visually impaired?
Anyway...
Had this happened to another country like the USA, there would be no suspension because tainted meat/incomplete list of ingredients/kissing... Take your pick. -
pupil3142 wrote:
look, you simply cant have guilt by association.
Just because you have lax enforcement in one country
and loads of people from that country getting busted in a particular sport
and loads records in that sport
you cant say they are all guilty.
where would that leave Usain Bolt?
You can be guilty by association according to the WADA rules. But they are sports rules so they do what they want ; almost. -
Coevett wrote:
From the man who believes in innocence until proven guilty? Well then again, you insist they are innocent even when proven guilty, so....
Not sure what point you want to make here.
Yes -- from the man who believes in the fundamental principle of justice observed by first world countries of innocent until proven guilty.
Yes -- from the man who believes that a finding of guilt for one infraction is not a finding of guilt for any infraction an outside observer may wish to believe. It would be unusual to accuse someone who was only found guilty of tax evasion, of other crimes like robbing a bank, or murder.
Alfred Kipketer was found guilty of missing 4 tests within a 12 month period, and he has accepted this finding.
There is hardly much more to discuss.
