Dr. Scott Gottlieb: "Vaccination doesn't mean people can return to pre-Covid life" ??

One of the British government scientific advisers said the other day that lockdowns and social distancing would continue until 2023.

The vaccines are supposed to be 90%+ effective, and there are going to be a dozen different ones available by the summer. Even if it is true that Covid is 10 x as lethal as the flu, how can they justify continuing restrictions once the elderly and vulnerable are all vaccinated, which should be achieved by the spring?

No doubt they will keep telling us that the virus has mutated. When people start to riot, it will be an opportunity to impose martial law and round up Covid deniers for sedition. Likewise for any politicians brave enough to speak out.

Oh well

jamin wrote:

"Just like things were different after 9/11"

I warned you guys! The Coronavirus-Industrial Complex is trying to steal 2021+ from us like they did 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4PA47aeHDw&ab_channel=CNBCTelevision

Fear mongers like Harambe and Roy are disgusting. People like you who distort facts and who try to manipulate people's opinions with lies are not better.

Seriously get over yourself and accept reality.

Scott Gottlieb was Trump's first FDA commissioner. He's been the ultimate straight shooter during this pandemic. He didn't make excuses for BLM protests or condemn everything Trump did. So if you're going to listen to just one person, listen to him.

The mod who deletes posts criticising Jamin is not impartial.

The vaccine only lessens your Covid symptoms. You can still get it and transmit the virus.

jamin wrote:

"Just like things were different after 9/11"

I warned you guys! The Coronavirus-Industrial Complex is trying to steal 2021+ from us like they did 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4PA47aeHDw&ab_channel=CNBCTelevision

Proof yet again that LRC is committed to promoting Covid misinformation and denial, with yet another thread by this champion of deniers.

h54 wrote:

The mod who deletes posts criticising Jamin is not impartial.

This is a Covid denial board.

DiffrntPerspective wrote:

The vaccine only lessens your Covid symptoms. You can still get it and transmit the virus.

We don’t know yet.Making predictions on how the vaccines will impact life are premature, because we don’t have the data on how they affect transmission.

A mist booster will likely help if necessary

The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine should affect transmission.

h54 wrote:

The mod who deletes posts criticising Jamin is not impartial.

This is true. Jamin start a thread about some "huge" Asian march for trump. It stayed until some criticism about jamins threads were posted. Then suddenly it was all deleted.

bizarre oh wrote:

Seriously get over yourself and accept reality.

Reality? As in, “accept what we say without question” and “get back in line, slave”?

That attitude is part of the problem,

sheep identifier wrote:

bizarre oh wrote:

Seriously get over yourself and accept reality.

Reality? As in, “accept what we say without question” and “get back in line, slave”?

That attitude is part of the problem,

Ashli Babbit would still be alive if she had gotten back in line.

Mr Hancock said: “I anticipate we will probably need to revaccinate because we don’t know the longevity of the protection from these vaccines."

“We don’t know how frequently it will be, but it might need to be every six months, it might need to be every year.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/people-need-covid-vaccines-every-23280233

DanM wrote:

Mr Hancock said: “I anticipate we will probably need to revaccinate because we don’t know the longevity of the protection from these vaccines."

“We don’t know how frequently it will be, but it might need to be every six months, it might need to be every year.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/people-need-covid-vaccines-every-23280233

It will become like the flu shot except mandated, IMO. I've gotten the flu with and without the flu shot, so this is just a money maker for big pharmy.

I don't know why you care about social distancing. It's clear that you spend most of your time alone in your apartment regardless of a global pandemic or not.

Plus, he has been racing (without a mask!) in recent months despite claiming that Washington State is a virtual prison colony and that the governor bans people from leaving their homes. Results and photo evidence on the link below:

https://www.wednesdaynightrunners.com/

He's a straight up BS artist.

trashcan wrote:

[quote]DiffrntPerspective wrote:

The vaccine only lessens your Covid symptoms. You can still get it and transmit the virus.

All of the vaccines will dramatically reduce transmission. Claiming otherwise is anti-scientific media fearmongering.

If you actually watch the video, you will hear Gottlieb say that mask mandates will more than likely end by Fall of 2021. He is concerned that the level of vaccination may not be high enough in the US to end the pandemic by Fall of 2021 such that we will still need to take measures to reduce risk, like wearing masks on airplanes and avoiding crowded spaces. He is also concerned that there may be an issue with the vaccine not matching the current strain of the virus (presumably the UK variant that is spreading rapidly across the US).

Frankly, Gottlieb sucks. He is not an expert on infectious diseases, virology, epidemiology or vaccinations. He was FDA commissioner and has mostly worked on public policy related to pharmaceuticals. He gets a lot of TV time because of his public policy experience, which is fair enough. However, he is very wishy washy in this interview and a pretty terrible public health advocate.

The current consensus among the experts is that it will take a very high level of vaccination across the US to see everything return to normal in the Fall of 2021. The UK variant has not shown itself to be an escape variant. But it is more contagious and that will mean that vaccine coverage will need to be much higher. And the more the virus is allowed to run rampant in the mean time, the more opportunities the virus has to find an escape variant which would mean that the Fall of 2021 could be even worse that 2020.

If you are a rational human being, you will realize that it is imperative to do everything possible to get the vaccine into as many arms and as fast as possible and in the mean time to stop swapping air with people outside your household to deprive the virus of the chance to further mutate (and to keep the UK variant from spreading). Anything short of that is just a Jonestown suicide pact that will ensure that things may never get back to normal.