New York Times glorifies bullying of teen girl

Misleading title, you probably did not bother reading the article: the title of this thread should be "Kansas University glorifies bullying of a teen Girl"

The NYT article presents the facts in a very balanced way, the message is that what the girl did was dumb, but the way the girl was exposed was probably wrong and the reaction excessive.

non-affirmative action hire wrote:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1343285572295663619?s=20

Democrats are evil.

The problem is not Democrats. The problem is people who do not raise their children properly. If you want to blame someone, blame the girl's parents. Parents who raise their children in the year 2020 as if they are living in the same world in which they grew up are demonstrating a lack of the most basic of parenting skills. By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

timeshavechanged wrote:

By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

This. Americans have shown their ugly side more these last four years than ever before. Never has one individual (and that individual's family) been subject to such horrible, incessant hostility and disgusting accusations as we have seen the last four years.

13 50 wrote:

mofong wrote:

Poor whites ?

At least you didn't deny the obvious tribal component to all this anti-white aggression. Pretty hard to deny anyway. And it's all driven by envy. Just too bad that white girls can't see how much they are envied just for being white girls. Like this boy who ruined her life, gay black kid who is sooo jealous that all the cute white boys prefer cute white girls.

Yet I’m sure you will deny the not so subtle racist bull ? in your post. In your delusional mind blacks are jealous of little white girls and the world is out to get white folks....NOT! The white race has done some absolutely despicable things to Blacks in this KKKountry for centuries. So Im not too mad if a little mistreatment comes their way....it’s the only reparations we will ever get. Because of the hateful origin of the use of the N word by Caucasians they will NEVER be permitted to use it without repercussions. That being said, the context in which she used it matters and how long ago it was matters too. Although she should not have used the word, she was only fifteen and it wasn’t said in a hateful manner. No way that should cause her college admission to be rescinded. Maybe at the time, one of her Black classmates should have slapped the sh*t out of her just to send a message to ALL the Caucasians at the school. After a clear message was sent it should have ended there.

Echo of St. Augustine wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

The N word is not bad if used in the right context. I can't find the video but this dude Jimmy, who looks like a freak by the way, held onto a video for 3 years just to do this? What a joke. This makes me hate SJWs and leftists even more.

Wouldn’t it be better to hate the actions rather than the actors?

hey sham wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

The N word is not bad if used in the right context. I can't find the video but this dude Jimmy, who looks like a freak by the way, held onto a video for 3 years just to do this? What a joke. This makes me hate SJWs and leftists even more.

Is hate really the emotion you want to dominate your life?

I wonder if this comment would get the same reactions if it were made about Trump or his supporter.

discrimination is alive and well in 2020 wrote:

timeshavechanged wrote:

By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

This. Americans have shown their ugly side more these last four years than ever before. Never has one individual (and that individual's family) been subject to such horrible, incessant hostility and disgusting accusations as we have seen the last four years.

Wait...Who do you mean?

timeshavechanged wrote:

non-affirmative action hire wrote:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1343285572295663619?s=20

Democrats are evil.

The problem is not Democrats. The problem is people who do not raise their children properly. If you want to blame someone, blame the girl's parents. Parents who raise their children in the year 2020 as if they are living in the same world in which they grew up are demonstrating a lack of the most basic of parenting skills. By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

Give me a f*cking break, the video in question is over a 15 year old saying the N-word in a 3-second video. Immature and dumb? Yes. Racist? No, because racism requires attitude and intent, something that cannot be inferred from a single word. And I guarantee if the roles were reversed, and the video in question were a black girl filming herself saying a racial slur towards white people, you would not politically grandstanding right now.

What Jimmy did was way worse, meanwhile this video hurt nor affected absolutely nobody. What Jimmy did was pathetic and vitriolic - making some stupid video go viral from 4 years ago just to tarnish somebody elses reputation and ruin their life - and the white liberal media all patted themselves on the back for the destruction of this girl's life. Liberals - stop glorifying losers like Jimmy Galligan and his behavior if you want to be taken seriously on real social justice issues.

Sham 69 wrote:

The N word is not bad if used in the right context. I can't find the video but this dude Jimmy, who looks like a freak by the way, held onto a video for 3 years just to do this? What a joke. This makes me hate SJWs and leftists even more.

The last sentence here reminds me of something interesting, this phrase...

“Who radicalized you” “you did”

As society goes more left actions like these will bring people to the right, it’s like a pendulum if you will

discrimination is alive and well in 2020 wrote:

timeshavechanged wrote:

By the way, to be clear, racist behavior was never okay; it's just no longer fashionable to be openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, etc. - in spite of the fact that the last 4 years may have led some people to believe that they had the green light to air their ugliness for all the world to see.

This. Americans have shown their ugly side more these last four years than ever before. Never has one individual (and that individual's family) been subject to such horrible, incessant hostility and disgusting accusations as we have seen the last four years.

Agreed.

Here is the thing. People who are frustrated with "democrats" calling people out on their BS over the last four years were honestly just too used to the left being pushovers and trying to give people "a chance" for years. After Trump was elected, the right showed their hand. It was never about anything else but racism the whole time. So the left went into fight mode.

As for this girl, I hope that the fire dies down and we can have real teachable moments that don't involve humiliation--especially for kids. At the same time, teachable means teachable. People actually need to learn that bigotry is bad, not just 'politically incorrect'.

Back to reality please. The Left is just as racist as the Right, maybe even more so. Keep patting yourself on the back for being woke though.

huh what wrote:

I read this last night and was disgusted. A 15 year old says a bad word (not even at anyone, nor in a negative or hurtful context) and we’re going to hold it against her forever? Rescind her college acceptance three years after the fact? And hold up her bully as some icon of accountability enforcement?

It’s really insane. And very sad. People, especially children, should be allowed to do a dumb (and almost entirely harmless) thing without such drastic repercussions. Cancel culture and its proponents are revolting.

At a high level society hasn't adjusted to the internet and the ability to both record and share info. If you get recordings of people during their worst 30s, not many people will look good.

And to some extent she just has had some bad luck. If BLM hadn't started in the spring, if UT hadn't had problems recently with black face, white supremist, and the rest, the reaction to this video would have been more muted.

And yeah it will be interesting to see what the repercussions are for the kid who posted the video. Some companies might go that is that the type of person we want to hire but I am guessing most will go this kid is will likely cause problems so why hire him. If you were a prof, would you want to do a research project with him and worry about that you might screw up and he would go nuclear. And the lack of thought about the results of his action also doesn't reflect well.

That high school does sound like a cesspool though...

You know, the response does seem harsh, yet consider that for years simply being black would have subjected you to exactly what this girl experienced. So if you are outraged that this kind of thing happened to one white girl because of one word she said (and yet had complete control over, whether she was young and ignorant or not), then how are you not outraged about how an entire group of people have been treated for no action beyond the uncontrollable fact of their skin color?

Lots more has been lost than college acceptances in the lives of black people, and many other peoples for that matter.

Kenneth Davids wrote:

You know, the response does seem harsh, yet consider that for years simply being black would have subjected you to exactly what this girl experienced. So if you are outraged that this kind of thing happened to one white girl because of one word she said (and yet had complete control over, whether she was young and ignorant or not), then how are you not outraged about how an entire group of people have been treated for no action beyond the uncontrollable fact of their skin color?

Who said no one was outraged about your rhetorical question (broad and vague though it is)? How did you draw the conclusion that any and everyone in this thread is not adequately outraged by what you consider outrageous? Because no one prefaced their remarks with expressing outrage for something else considered racist? That's a pretty stupid reach on your part.

Sounds kinda hot, TBH.

Kenneth Davids wrote:

You know, the response does seem harsh, yet consider that for years simply being black would have subjected you to exactly what this girl experienced. So if you are outraged that this kind of thing happened to one white girl because of one word she said (and yet had complete control over, whether she was young and ignorant or not), then how are you not outraged about how an entire group of people have been treated for no action beyond the uncontrollable fact of their skin color?

Lots more has been lost than college acceptances in the lives of black people, and many other peoples for that matter.

I will start by saying I’m a white male who identifies as a liberal person. I think it is absurd that this girl was effectively canceled and had to go to community college and I hope this young man realizes that hurting other people back is not the answer. While I am white and will never fully understand what black people in the US have gone through and still gone through today I’ve had my own challenges in life and I know that to hate back and to get “revenge” on people is not the answer. I really am disappointed in this young man for his behavior. I can honestly say I never use the n word and never have even as a boy. I understand that as a white man I should not say this word, however this girl made the mistake at 15 years old. Thinking about it more I feel bad for the boy who posted it because he clearly is a very mad very angry young man and I feel bad for him. However as I always believe as a religious man hate and revenge is never the answer. I will say I have attended Black Lives Matter peaceful protests in the fall of 2020 when my black friends asked me to come. I am happy to do so because I know that BLM means that black lives are not recognized by everyone as important and they need to be. I quote a black friend of mine who has explained to myself and others that all lives matter WHEN Black Lives Matter. And I think that is a great quote and people who insist to say that all lives matter are idiots and jerkoffs. Let’s all hope for the best for the young man and woman and hope the woman can move on with her life after a mistake she made at 15!!! And don’t hate her parents sometimes parents can’t do anything please don’t blame them. And let’s hope for the best for this young man because he is an angry man and his heart is angry and we must hope he can stop being vengeful and be a good human no matter what happens to him. When Jesus was hit, he turned the other cheek and allowed them to hit him again. We should all do the same.

"people who insist to say that all lives matter are idiots and jerkoffs" Why? People who say all lives matter are including blacks, they mean all lives matter equally, without discrimination. Where's the disagreement?

No reason, based on the title of the post, that this should make the front page. It's clearly false; the NYT isn't glorifying anything. Presenting both sides equally to make the reader question the right decision (I'll give you a hint, it's difficult to determine)

electron1661 wrote:

No reason, based on the title of the post, that this should make the front page. It's clearly false; the NYT isn't glorifying anything. Presenting both sides equally to make the reader question the right decision (I'll give you a hint, it's difficult to determine)

Such is Letsrun.

yah, exactly. There is no side that is completely right or completely wrong. I'm not into public shaming and I don't think that blowing up a teenager's path in life right in front of her is the answer.

But it's also stupid to suggest that what the girl did was harmless. Wish there was a better way to deal with all of this.