Allen53 wrote:
Hahahaha- America's leading "expert" has now reduced the immune system to a conspiracy theory.
"Follow the Science©."
Classic.
Can you imagine an 80 year old being trotted out as The Expert in immunology!
With all the advances made in this field the past several decades, is it not likely that numerous young and middle aged doctors would have far surpassed his expertise?
in my opinion wrote:
It also doesn’t change the fact that Rojo and his ilk don’t give a sh!t when Trump lies or misleads the American public about this pandemic.
Rank hypocrisy.
I don't know what you are talking about.
I do give a sh** about Trump's lies. I never voted for him in either election despite liking some of his policies as I feel like he lacks the character to be president and is a total con man.
Fauci is supposed to be a scientist. A scientist is supposed to deal in facts. A president is often like a psychologist for the nation and trying to get us feel good about ourselves.
I don't constantly point out Trump's lies as only an idiot if you don't realize Trump lies all the time. Fauci though is presented for some reason to us as some scientific genius and yet he seems to either lie or be totally wrong quite often.
wejo wrote:
I'm changing the title of the thread from "been lying to us" to "purposely misled us". It's Christmas Day and associating Dr. Fauci with the word lie really rubs people the wrong way, including my aunt.
It doesn't change what Robert is saying but appearances are important.
oh, thank you for your service
rojo wrote:
in my opinion wrote:
Allen53, Bad Wigins, Jamin, YMMV and several others start threads daily down playing the virus and not only do you say nothing, you actively allow them to use this platform to spread that misinformation.
I'm not going to delete stuff that is people's opinions though.
you're an idiot. just my opinion
rojo wrote:
in my opinion wrote:
Allen53, Bad Wigins, Jamin, YMMV and several others start threads daily down playing the virus and not only do you say nothing, you actively allow them to use this platform to spread that misinformation.
I have my phone number up on the internet. If you have a thread that you think should be deleted, you can easily call me. How many other places in the world does that exist? Have you called me? 844-538-7786 ext.3 .
If I see a thread saying Covid is a hoax, I delete it. I'm not going to delete stuff that is people's opinions though.
I never said you should delete them and I won’t be calling you either, but I question your sincerity. You seem perfectly okay with certain people lying about this pandemic including the current President.
rojo wrote:
in my opinion wrote:
It also doesn’t change the fact that Rojo and his ilk don’t give a sh!t when Trump lies or misleads the American public about this pandemic.
Rank hypocrisy.
I don't know what you are talking about.
I do give a sh** about Trump's lies. I never voted for him in either election despite liking some of his policies as I feel like he lacks the character to be president and is a total con man.
Fauci is supposed to be a scientist. A scientist is supposed to deal in facts. A president is often like a psychologist for the nation and trying to get us feel good about ourselves.
I don't constantly point out Trump's lies as only an idiot if you don't realize Trump lies all the time. Fauci though is presented for some reason to us as some scientific genius and yet he seems to either lie or be totally wrong quite often.
I’ve never seen you start a thread calling the current President out for his lies about Covid, not once.
in my opinion wrote:
rojo wrote:
I don't know what you are talking about.
I do give a sh** about Trump's lies. I never voted for him in either election despite liking some of his policies as I feel like he lacks the character to be president and is a total con man.
Fauci is supposed to be a scientist. A scientist is supposed to deal in facts. A president is often like a psychologist for the nation and trying to get us feel good about ourselves.
I don't constantly point out Trump's lies as only an idiot if you don't realize Trump lies all the time. Fauci though is presented for some reason to us as some scientific genius and yet he seems to either lie or be totally wrong quite often.
I’ve never seen you start a thread calling the current President out for his lies about Covid, not once.
This is a fact. Why do you think that is?
rojo wrote:
in my opinion wrote:
It also doesn’t change the fact that Rojo and his ilk don’t give a sh!t when Trump lies or misleads the American public about this pandemic.
Rank hypocrisy.
I don't know what you are talking about.
yeah, we know
Armstronglivs wrote:
Whenever there's a Fauci or Covid thread I know that I'm going to be seeing the pitchforks and lanterns brigade again. Meanwhile America has the highest toll of Covid deaths in the world and still climbing. With all the "experts" here, its easy to see why.
rojo, care to respond?
rojo wrote:
Dr. Fraudci wrote:
It’s fine that policies change as scientists learn more about the virus, but Fauci has said twice now that his prior recommendations shouldn’t be followed as he just wanted to downplay the severity of the necessary covid measures for the public. He’s admitting that he’s not just changing policy due to new data, but rather the changes he makes to his stance on the validity of mask wearing or herd immunity are due to a previous desire to mislead so as not to cause panic. Downplaying covid is something that people have been criticizing Trump on (with good reason), but it seems like these same people give Fauci a free pass. .
A PERFECT POST. You sum up my feelings perfectly. 100%. And yet people think I'm some crazy right winger on Covid. I'm ripping Fauci for twice downplaying this virus. How in the hell would that make me right wing? That's why I'm straight down the middle with radical common sense.
Nope, far from a perfect post. yeah yeah yeah, you're smarter than everyone else here. we've heard it all before, MESSAGE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR
Qooo wrote:
Rojo, you've lied more time than Fauci. You're only allowed to say truth 100% of the time and never speculate on anything ever. PLEASE STOP.
This is the truth
wejo wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
Rojo, I believe you are making a mistake by taking a side in this debate. Owner's of the site should at least create the appearance of impartiality on controversial issues, like this.
In all due respect for you and your site, I will leave it at that, though i would ask you to reconsider posting such things.
From a PR standpoint using the words Fauci and lie is not a good idea but that's Rojo.
yeah and this is why serious runners and coaches will NEVER take your site seriously. Don't get mad, this is JUST HOW I AM
rojo wrote:
seattle prattle wrote:
Rojo, I believe you are making a mistake by taking a side in this debate. Owner's of the site should at least create the appearance of impartiality on controversial issues, like this.
In all due respect for you and your site, I will leave it at that, though i would ask you to reconsider posting such things.
I'm not taking a side.
yes you are
in my opinion wrote:
rojo wrote:
I have my phone number up on the internet. If you have a thread that you think should be deleted, you can easily call me. How many other places in the world does that exist? Have you called me? 844-538-7786 ext.3 .
If I see a thread saying Covid is a hoax, I delete it. I'm not going to delete stuff that is people's opinions though.
I never said you should delete them and I won’t be calling you either, but I question your sincerity. You seem perfectly okay with certain people lying about this pandemic including the current President.
When recently have I started a thread about anything? LIAR!
What you are, my friend, is a despicable censor. If you believe in your "facts" let them succeed on their own merit. What does silencing debate say, if not that you believe your position is weak?
#FireFauci
The fact that we’re still listening to these mf’ers is concerning. How many times does someone need to lie to you to stop believing anything that he says?
Harambe wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
When recently have I started a thread about anything? LIAR!
What you are, my friend, is a despicable censor. If you believe in your "facts" let them succeed on their own merit. What does silencing debate say, if not that you believe your position is weak?
Nah, we can call for moderation of our private boards.
The point is that the baseless BS you and other deniers spew still takes effort to disprove.
As much as I enjoy making you look dumb, it takes time and energy that should be spent discussing important things.
So yeah, nothing wrong with calling for moderation the truly stupid views (the virus doesn't exist!; deaths are all faked!; New World Order taking over! 2600 cases!) that just clog up the boards.
It also doesn't help that some of your compatriots love to spam the boards hourly -- it's a lot of mess to clean up! Like running a daycare...
Meanwhile...
https://streamable.com/0db8cthttps://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1187829299207954437https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVEcOJtWAAAyAzR.jpgrojo wrote:
What I have never understood is how everyone loves Dr. Fauci - on both the left and right.
In fact Fauci's approval ratings are something around 65% positive. He and his family have allegedly received death threats, so there are either at least a few who show their love in strange ways or your premise is "misleading".
The Big Club wrote:
This speaks for itself...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVEcOJtWAAAyAzR.jpg
Looks like a group we could go all French Revolution on, what do you guys think?
The idiocy and contradiction in this thread is that the OP and others treat Fauci as though he is the voice of God on Covid, whose pronouncements have to be absolute and unquestionable truths - even while thread after thread here disputes the science about the pandemic. So what is it? You'll accept what Fauci says if his messages are unvarying but not if he makes any change of tune during the course of the pandemic - or there is nothing Fauci and science can tell you because it is all a hoax?
Anyone with a wit of scientific understanding can grasp what Fauci has been saying over the last year - and it hasn't been that he is claiming to be the last word on the science of the pandemic but that we should follow what the science tells us. What the science tells us has been a journey towards understanding; we didn't simply open a book and have all the answers. Fauci is a messenger more than he is an author or originator. There are many other scientists who have been imparting their knowledge about the virus and how to combat it. Fauci has been but one voice, even if his has been one of the most prominent. He is part of a worldwide community of professionals - but not a cabal of conspirators - who have been seeking to understand Covid - and they - like us - have been learning along the way. There haven't been lies or deliberate attempts to mislead - even if they haven't always got it right every step of the way. The advice from the scientists has been pretty consistent - reduce the risk of community transmission through social distancing and masks. Pretty simple. Where it has been followed it has worked. I live in a country that is proof of that.
It has been the messages from the politicians that has been inconsistent - and in Trump's case riven with lies and even outright lunacy - like disinfectant "cures". The greater difficulty for Fauci has been to have to impart public health messages from within an administration that has not accepted those messages and has undermined them. Anyone with an ounce of political nous could also have seen the often impossible task he has had.
But as seen from outside the US, from another country that has successfully applied the principles that Fauci and so many other scientists have advocated, it has been baffling to see the attacks on your leading epidemiologist, whose primary motivation has been to try to save American lives. And lost lives are what many of you don't care about - or you would have done far more to counter the appalling and growing toll in your country.
The supreme irony is that while so many Americans reject science in favour of falsehood and conspiracy theories it has been the extraordinary skills and knowledge of your scientific community that has produced effective vaccines at unprecedented speed. Many of you will live to be grateful for that. If only there was a vaccine for ignorance - because that now appears to be your greater malady. Threads like this are a sad affirmation of that truth.
