Cut 'em some slack, it was Christmas! lol
Cut 'em some slack, it was Christmas! lol
Interesting to see so many Peg 37 dislikers here. I really enjoy the ride, which is different, but not in a bad way. Also have some issues with the Infinity runs heel but with long socks its okay.
bring back the waffle wrote:
Another vote for the Nike React Infinity. Weird fit, extreme rocker ride, and heavy/clunky. Needed another set of eyelets to lock the fit around the ankle (I used a knife to cut some). Plastic digs into the arch. The ride is awful. React foam is heavy and making all their shoes heavier than comparable brands making max cushioned shoes. Nike has been so focused on the midsole foams that the quality of their uppers has been suffering for a few years. They’ve been removing rubber/waffle sole, probably trying to lighten the shoes cause of the React foam- the shoes are losing their responsiveness and bad grip. Obsessing over innovation has resulted in overpriced, uncomfortable garbage. They need to ditch the React foam and get back to making comfortable, affordable shoes for the masses.
They claim the react offers 13% better energy return than the lunarlon. My take? The react is slow, sluggish, and heavy, with absolutely no 'get up' to them. The uppers are also terrible. Bring the GOAT lunars back, Nike!
Kenaneeser Beckelay wrote:
For me:
Nike Zoom Fly 3
I don’t know how anyone runs in this shoe.
Tried 2 pairs of Skechers that were half price... they blow-not even lawn mowing shoes.
Actually a good year for shoe purchases, but I only run in adidas solar boosts for my Haglund's as trainers. For workouts only bought a couple of shoes - SL20, Fuel Cell Rebel, Floatride Run Fast and Razor 3. Probably my least favorite is the Rebel - not a bad shoe but find the whole underfoot design a bit awkward - messed up my calves the first few times I ran fast in it.
Mizuno Wavesky Waveknit 3. Heavy and hard midsole. And this is their max cushioned daily shoe? Disappointing.
By the way, I love the username "Kenaneeser Beckelay." Makes me chuckle every time.
Interesting to see so many of you dislike the Zoom Fly 3. I’ve been a big fan of it so far. To be fair, I’ve never worn another carbon plated shoe, so I have nothing to compare it to, but it feels fast and comfortable for me. Just hit a tempo in them the other day and they felt great for it.
Reebok Floatride Energy 2. Extremely stiff, clunky feeling, and way heavier than any of my other shoes. I wore them a few times and then gave up. Fortunately I'd bought them on Amazon for $30, so it wasn't much of a loss.
joecrunner wrote:
Hoka Clifton
+1
I bought it to be a soft luxe shoe for easy days but it's just plain jarring.
I feel more impact from that shoe than I do from racing flats. Weird.
agreed my friend wrote:
rhinetalrunner wrote:
NB 1080v10. This shoe brought me into an injury cycle I’m still trying to get out of. Threw them away after 4 months of use.
Nike Peg 37. Hard, stiff, and just not comfortable. Way to ruin a shoe, Nike. After a lot of looking around, managed to find 2 pairs of 36s in my size.
I’m sure some people may love the above-mentioned shoes, but they didn’t work for me.
+1 on the 37s
Huge fan of the 36s, they feel fast, comfortable, light, don’t get me injured, but can handle the 80-85 mpw I run over the summer. I got the 37s and immediately hated them, but forced myself to run in them because I didn’t want to throw $120 down the drain. Got an IT band injury that took me out for 3 months. F*** those shoes.
I hadn’t gotten rid of my 37s yet, so decided to give them one last chance today. Ran ~150m and turned back around to switch to the 36s! What a horrible shoe... nothing feels right about it. Offered them to my neighbor and he happily took them.
For me, the 36 is the gold standard to which any daily trainer has to stand, and I haven’t found it yet! It’s just that good. As you say: fast, comfortable, light, and it keeps us healthy and running.
I actually love the Zoom Fly. After about 30-50 miles it softens just enough that it's what it's advertised as: a tempo version of the Vaporfly. But I agree the Endorphin Speed is better.
Worst shoe this year is probably the Boston 9. I just feel like the Lightstrike is totally dead.
birdbeard wrote:
I actually love the Zoom Fly. After about 30-50 miles it softens just enough that it's what it's advertised as: a tempo version of the Vaporfly. But I agree the Endorphin Speed is better.
Worst shoe this year is probably the Boston 9. I just feel like the Lightstrike is totally dead.
I don't have the 9s - I run the the 8s - but be careful with Bostons...they often seem like dead lumps for the first 50 miles and then soften up just right. I almost threw out my 8s but someone warned me of the need to break them in.
I've come to accept that and it's fine. The shoes last hundreds of miles so burning the first 50 isn't so bad. Maybe walking around in them for a few days would do the work also.
But to be fair, I'm talking about the 8s, not the 9s.
Huge fan of the 36s, they feel fast, comfortable, light, don’t get me injured, but can handle the 80-85 mpw I run over the summer. I got the 37s and immediately hated them, but forced myself to run in them because I didn’t want to throw $120 down the drain. Got an IT band injury that took me out for 3 months. F*** those shoes.
Being a bigger runner(6'185) I'll say the 36 is definitely light yet firm cushion. The Boston 8/9 is a break in period shoe but once to 40 miles a definite workhorse tempo/hills/fartlek the Pegs 36 is much the same but slightly lighter Boston with very resilient boost gets the nod.
Recently I got a pair of Pegasus 34 at the outlet and compared to 36 feels slightly more stack but the form of cushlon is definitely more resilient. There was mention of this 34 version being stiff and firm but kind of like Boston once to 40miles the zoom pods seem to be molding to foot and cushion is absorbing. Maybe this is the case with Pegasus 37? I have heard the Team issue colors of Pegasus having slightly more volume/width.
On War wrote:
Probably my least favorite is the Rebel - not a bad shoe but find the whole underfoot design a bit awkward - messed up my calves the first few times I ran fast in it.
The rebel’s midfoot is designed for mainly supinators. The real downfall is no runners loop hole.
Thomsum wrote:
Saucony Fastwitch 9. Terrible update of what used to be a great shoe
Amen brother. One run and I sent them back.
I haven't tried them, but everyone I have talked to who bought the React Infinity has been disappointed, particularly with the upper.
Interesting responses regarding the Pegasus 37. I had been out of the Nike universe for several decades, but I had a discount and wanted a new training shoe, so I got the 37s. I find the cushioning just fine, but my daily trainers up until then were much firmer. I agree that they aren't an optimal tempo/speed shoe, but I wear my Newton Distance 9s for that.
I haven't bought a bad shoe this year, but the weakest was the On Cloudflow. I have liked the Cloudflow in the past, but with legs that will be 69 years old in three weeks, I have started to crave a bit more cushioning.
I also have a pair of Nike Tempo Next% that will be delivered Monday, so I'm looking forward to that.
Bondi 6 or 7 I don't remember the number. Returned in April.
I was working thru plantar fasciitis issues and thought they would be a good dog walking errand shoe.
I did like being taller for a change
You guys must be smoking crack to think React sucks compared to Lunar. Lunar was only good for like 200 miles before bottoming out whereas I'm easily getting 700 miles out of Vomeros. The infinity has a good midsole but the Arch is too high and the lockdown in the heel is awful. Despite that I still liked the shoe. It's just a daily easy trainer and it did that fine.
Asics GT-2000 7. Their shoes have really gone to sh!t the last few years.
Infinity run was awful. Upper had no lockdown and it was possible to twist you ankle while the shoe stayed right side up - the last on the midsole also sucked, it did not fit the standard neutral foot last that Nike uses for the Pegasus - particularly in the arch. The only redeeming factor was the foam.