I love Noah Droddy’s Training. Just hard work, no designer workouts

Ok. Anything else?

Sara Williamson wrote:

Ok. Anything else?

Is that really your name! Cool! What are the odds?

A " guessing training" ......some workouts timed ......it functions also quite good.......but is it the best way of training?..........of course not.

Sarah Williamson wrote:

http://www.logarun.com/calendars/Noah/2020/11

Simple, hard, effective. None of this fancy, designer BS that we see so much these days.

What does this even mean? Bring back Zatopek's 40x400?

Run by guess wrote:

A " guessing training" ......some workouts timed ......it functions also quite good.......but is it the best way of training?..........of course not.

Excuse me?

Designer Workout wrote:

Sarah Williamson wrote:

http://www.logarun.com/calendars/Noah/2020/11

Simple, hard, effective. None of this fancy, designer BS that we see so much these days.

What does this even mean? Bring back Zatopek's 40x400?

Designer workouts includes one with “float” rests, an odd number of repeats for no reason, any of Zap Endurance’s workouts

What are "designer" workouts?

Regular&Standard wrote:

What are "designer" workouts?

Already explained

I mean....

You could run a tempo and 1ks every week sure.... Would be kinda boring but would get the "work" done. Often you get a similar workouts in a different package just to "Mix it up". Everyone does this. ( 15 min @ threshold x 2 with 3 minute float, vs 5 mile tempo) Basically the same thing just some minor variations.

Look I can get behind a runner like Droddy with a "grind it out" regular guy mentality getting his big breakthrough and running 2:09. That's awesome. Tons of Kudos to the guy.

But let's not make a referendum on a type of training.

So I mean if you want to hate on Zap Fitness (your example) go a head.

But BTC does "Designer workouts" Do they suck?

Just reminds about people will get on runners who run with music as somehow "Not being pure". Meanwhile for 5 years Farah was posting on social media running with his beats on that didn't stop him from winning 4 Olympic gold medals.

I'll let the results speak for the runner. They can do it whatever way they see fit.

Sarah Williamson wrote:

http://www.logarun.com/calendars/Noah/2020/11

Simple, hard, effective. None of this fancy, designer BS that we see so much these days.

Fartleks by feel, repeats and tempos at pace, long runs, mileage.

Lol this is what everybody else does

Sarah Williamson wrote:

Designer Workout wrote:

What does this even mean? Bring back Zatopek's 40x400?

Designer workouts includes one with “float” rests, an odd number of repeats for no reason, any of Zap Endurance’s workouts

His workout of 11/7 had float rests...

I do think too many get caught up in hitting exact paces. Along with complex “workouts.”

Running is simple. Run harder 2-3 times a week, run a lot, and do it consistently.

Regular&Standard wrote:

What are "designer" workouts?

It's an interesting term. Something I've noticed about interval sessions over the decades is that they've gotten away from the straightforward things like the sessions of 400s, or 200s, or miles or 800s that we used to do and have been replaced with sort of, I don't know, "hybrid" intervals, e.g, a mile, a jog, a 20 minute tempo, back to the track for 3-4 x 400, or some such thing. I immediately took the term to mean sessions like the second example.

HRE wrote:

Something I've noticed about interval sessions over the decades is that they've gotten away from the straightforward things like the sessions of 400s, or 200s, or miles or 800s that we used to do and have been replaced with sort of, I don't know, "hybrid" intervals, e.g, a mile, a jog, a 20 minute tempo, back to the track for 3-4 x 400, or some such thing. I immediately took the term to mean sessions like the second example.

Athletes are now significantly better than they were several decades ago. To what do you attribute this?

His coach is a Vigil disciple, so the training program has his fingerprints all over it. Seems similar to some of the work Desi did.

This is also his best uninterrupted block of training in a few years. It really goes to show the impact an injury can have !

The population doubled.

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HRE wrote:

Something I've noticed about interval sessions over the decades is that they've gotten away from the straightforward things like the sessions of 400s, or 200s, or miles or 800s that we used to do and have been replaced with sort of, I don't know, "hybrid" intervals, e.g, a mile, a jog, a 20 minute tempo, back to the track for 3-4 x 400, or some such thing. I immediately took the term to mean sessions like the second example.

Athletes are now significantly better than they were several decades ago. To what do you attribute this?

To what do I attribute your opinion? Probably some confusion on your part but that's just a guess. And what does that have to do with my understanding of a term?

Sarah Williamson wrote:

http://www.logarun.com/calendars/Noah/2020/11

Simple, hard, effective. None of this fancy, designer BS that we see so much these days.

Fartleks by feel, repeats and tempos at pace, long runs, mileage.

1. How do you know they are "effective"?

2. What are his target races? Marathons? Then I'd say he is a "low mileage" guy. Mo and Galen used to run more than that for track 5k / 10k.

free shipping with purchase wrote:

HRE wrote:

Something I've noticed about interval sessions over the decades is that they've gotten away from the straightforward things like the sessions of 400s, or 200s, or miles or 800s that we used to do and have been replaced with sort of, I don't know, "hybrid" intervals, e.g, a mile, a jog, a 20 minute tempo, back to the track for 3-4 x 400, or some such thing. I immediately took the term to mean sessions like the second example.

Athletes are now significantly better than they were several decades ago. To what do you attribute this?

I agree with HRE, and I don't understand your claim.

Adjust for PEDs and better tracks/equipment...then I disagree