No-show so far wrote:
That punt on 4th-and-26 with 20-odd seconds left was lame as f***. If they thought that was "keeping it respectable", that ship sailed about an hour ago.
Absolutely agreed. Nobody does that.
They had no chance to win at that point but no way do you punt.
Kelly's the classic example of a coach who reached a high level and is making a huge salary and probably never really deserved it.
Lane Kiffin - you listenin', douchebag???
Ighting Firish wrote:
Dezyherbie wrote:
Did you not pick up on the "Unless" dilweed?
What if they win by 30? That’s not “almost 50” but enough to drop them out, buttmunch.
So you're a literal idiot I see.
They shouldn't be in the CFB as that game wasn't nearly as close as the score but I think there's a better than 50% chance they do get it.
Brian Kelly has no say in the CFP. His team is out after losing ugly 34-10 to Clemson today. Maybe his team can score an invite to the Tidy Bowl.
...aaaaaand Florida can't get their defense off the field on 3rd Down. Alabama isn't doing anything spectacular, but will hang 50 on them at this rate.
Notre Dame is out wrote:
Brian Kelly has no say in the CFP. His team is out after losing ugly 34-10 to Clemson today. Maybe his team can score an invite to the Tidy Bowl.
I wouldn't say they are out yet. According to ESPN,
The Allstate Playoff Predictor still gives Notre Dame a 71% chance to reach the playoff -- the fourth-most likely team after Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson -- based on projections through the ACC Championship game.
Despite Notre Dame's loss today, the Fighting Irish have a better resume (per Strength of Record) and are the better team (per FPI) relative to Texas A&M.
That being said: Notre Dame is no lock and the Aggies still have a 37% chance to reach the playoff.
trollin' along wrote:
Notre Dame is out wrote:
Brian Kelly has no say in the CFP. His team is out after losing ugly 34-10 to Clemson today. Maybe his team can score an invite to the Tidy Bowl.
I wouldn't say they are out yet. According to ESPN,
The Allstate Playoff Predictor still gives Notre Dame a 71% chance to reach the playoff -- the fourth-most likely team after Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson -- based on projections through the ACC Championship game.
Despite Notre Dame's loss today, the Fighting Irish have a better resume (per Strength of Record) and are the better team (per FPI) relative to Texas A&M.
That being said: Notre Dame is no lock and the Aggies still have a 37% chance to reach the playoff.
This is ridiculous. Per one source, A&M has played the 12th most difficult schedule while ND has played the 65th.
Unfortunately, there are more ND fans than A&M fans across the country, but, if the committee is being sincere, there’s no way they can put the team in that lost badly in their very last game. No freaking way.
What is unfortunate? There is no firm criteria.
Ighting Firish wrote:
trollin' along wrote:
I wouldn't say they are out yet. According to ESPN,
The Allstate Playoff Predictor still gives Notre Dame a 71% chance to reach the playoff -- the fourth-most likely team after Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson -- based on projections through the ACC Championship game.
Despite Notre Dame's loss today, the Fighting Irish have a better resume (per Strength of Record) and are the better team (per FPI) relative to Texas A&M.
That being said: Notre Dame is no lock and the Aggies still have a 37% chance to reach the playoff.
This is ridiculous. Per one source, A&M has played the 12th most difficult schedule while ND has played the 65th.
Unfortunately, there are more ND fans than A&M fans across the country, but, if the committee is being sincere, there’s no way they can put the team in that lost badly in their very last game. No freaking way.
Notre Dame stunk it up. They had a longer time of possession, no turnover, and less than half of the penalties compared to Clemson, and ended with with less than one-half of the yards gained. They played a much more error-free game than Clemson and got smoked.
A&M should not get in because they were not good enough to play in their own conference final. They get a high ranking, and a higher "strength" of schedule, based on the teams in their conference being overrated ... the standard for the SEC, of LSU and Auburn suck then inflated the other SCE teams like A&M and Florida to take their place.
real ranker wrote:
What is unfortunate? There is no firm criteria.
Yes, beauty points are the firm criteria.
tidy bowl wrote:
Notre Dame stunk it up. They had a longer time of possession, no turnover, and less than half of the penalties compared to Clemson, and ended with with less than one-half of the yards gained. They played a much more error-free game than Clemson and got smoked.
A&M should not get in because they were not good enough to play in their own conference final. They get a high ranking, and a higher "strength" of schedule, based on the teams in their conference being overrated ... the standard for the SEC, of LSU and Auburn suck then inflated the other SCE teams like A&M and Florida to take their place.
That was an ugly game for ND. Maybe if they scored early on when they had chances things wouldn't have gotten out of hand but they didn't look like a competive team. A&M getting smoked by 28 points was equally ugly. I wouldn't want to see an A&M rematch anymore than I would want to see a Clemson-ND rematch. Ohio St didn't look great either but they were missing a ton of people.
I guess I take ND over A&M just because I don't want to see an Alabama-A&M rematch. I don't need to see if they can win by 50. Send in ND and watch them get beat by 35 so A&M can complain about how they were the better team:)
Notre Dame and Ohio State are ridiculously overrated, always.
Notre Dame plays a weakass schedule every year for 100 years. They schedule teams like Saint Mary's of the Cotswolds Junior High School girls, Money puts them in the playoffs, where they inevitably get walloped by Alabama 50 to 2.
Ohio State plays a weakass schedule every year in the Little 10. The best teams in the Little 10 get their asses whupped by the Hillbillies of Appalachian State Junior Teacher's College. Rutgers, Pedophile State U, Illinois. Little 10 is a joke, wouldn't even be JV in the SEC or Big12.
The Dirty Duck wrote:
Why would you want 80 families to fly across the country in a pandemic to watch a game in a giant empty stadium? Television offers a better experience in just about every respect.
A parent wants to watch their kid. If they are the safety, that's hard to see from home. Same thing with many wide receivers, etc. Unless there is an all-22 camera angle, the tv shots are terrible for parents.
rojo wrote:
The Dirty Duck wrote:
Why would you want 80 families to fly across the country in a pandemic to watch a game in a giant empty stadium? Television offers a better experience in just about every respect.
A parent wants to watch their kid. If they are the safety, that's hard to see from home. Same thing with many wide receivers, etc. Unless there is an all-22 camera angle, the tv shots are terrible for parents.
The other issue is that you are sort of asking these kids to skip out on the holidays with their family. You can't have 80 kids flying home and then back to the team and not expect to end up with a COVID outbreak. Having the parents visit with the kids also has some pretty serious covid risks. I assume that is why so many schools are opting out of bowl games.
them cowboys? wrote:
Notre Dame and Ohio State are ridiculously overrated, always.
Notre Dame plays a weakass schedule every year for 100 years. They schedule teams like Saint Mary's of the Cotswolds Junior High School girls, Money puts them in the playoffs, where they inevitably get walloped by Alabama 50 to 2.
Ohio State plays a weakass schedule every year in the Little 10. The best teams in the Little 10 get their asses whupped by the Hillbillies of Appalachian State Junior Teacher's College. Rutgers, Pedophile State U, Illinois. Little 10 is a joke, wouldn't even be JV in the SEC or Big12.
There are 2 teams with a shot at beating Alabama. Those teams are Clemson and Ohio State.
Clemson has a transcendent offensive talent in Lawrence, with enough weapons to keep them in any game.
Ohio State has pro linemen who will make 3rd-and-short something other than the stress-free walk in the park it was today for Alabama.
Everybody else? Pffffftttt.
Ighting Firish wrote:
middlingNAIAcoach wrote:
He has a point.
But him talking about this is putting the cart before the horse.
Yes. There’s a very good chance ND is very overrated yet again and won’t factor. There’s no way the committee can keep the loser of Clem-ND in the final 4.
Or....maybe they can
Notre Dame is out wrote:
Brian Kelly has no say in the CFP. His team is out after losing ugly 34-10 to Clemson today. Maybe his team can score an invite to the Tidy Bowl.
How’s your day going?
dezyherbie wrote:
Ighting Firish wrote:
Yes. There’s a very good chance ND is very overrated yet again and won’t factor. There’s no way the committee can keep the loser of Clem-ND in the final 4.
Or....maybe they can
I'm a ND football fan, and I am excited the team gets to play Bama.
However, I am not a fan of AD Swarbrick or of Coach Kelly, and one more game where ND gets blown out against an elite team should be the end for at least one of those two.
dezyherbie wrote:
Ighting Firish wrote:
Yes. There’s a very good chance ND is very overrated yet again and won’t factor. There’s no way the committee can keep the loser of Clem-ND in the final 4.
Or....maybe they can
Yep, they are idiots. As far as Kelly saying ND is one of the best 4 teams left, Florida gave AL a better game than ND is going to. A&M got screwed. But, if the argument is that these teams didn’t play a full schedule, then why is OSU in with their 6-game season?
Any source you look at shows A&M played a harder schedule than Notre Dame. The AP & coaches only drop ND by two slots in the ranking while A&M doesn’t budge? Geniuses.
I guess Clemson really did need to win by 50....
Ighting Firish wrote:
dezyherbie wrote:
Or....maybe they can
Yep, they are idiots. As far as Kelly saying ND is one of the best 4 teams left, Florida gave AL a better game than ND is going to. A&M got screwed. But, if the argument is that these teams didn’t play a full schedule, then why is OSU in with their 6-game season?
Any source you look at shows A&M played a harder schedule than Notre Dame. The AP & coaches only drop ND by two slots in the ranking while A&M doesn’t budge? Geniuses.
I guess Clemson really did need to win by 50....
What’s even more amazing is Kelly promoted their two wins over top-15 opponents as justification, one of which was a Lawrence-less Clemson (also missing two prominent DEs) in South Bend in a 2 OT game. When they played the real Clemson at the end of the season when it counted, they got smoked. So, I guess ND’s signature win of the season was UNC. So impressive.
Ighting Firish wrote:
Ighting Firish wrote:
Yep, they are idiots. As far as Kelly saying ND is one of the best 4 teams left, Florida gave AL a better game than ND is going to. A&M got screwed. But, if the argument is that these teams didn’t play a full schedule, then why is OSU in with their 6-game season?
Any source you look at shows A&M played a harder schedule than Notre Dame. The AP & coaches only drop ND by two slots in the ranking while A&M doesn’t budge? Geniuses.
I guess Clemson really did need to win by 50....
What’s even more amazing is Kelly promoted their two wins over top-15 opponents as justification, one of which was a Lawrence-less Clemson (also missing two prominent DEs) in South Bend in a 2 OT game. When they played the real Clemson at the end of the season when it counted, they got smoked. So, I guess ND’s signature win of the season was UNC. So impressive.
Keep the excuses coming. It is great.