Jordan Hasay is officially a flash in the pan

I understood her running the trials because it’s an Olympic dream and at the time she really needed to prove that she could just get to the start line. But it’s clear that her and Paula knew she wasn’t super fit before Valencia, so I’m not sure why she ran. I recall reading that she is doing less volume under Paula and takes a day off every week. Have to wonder if the reduced training is why she’s gone from a low 2:20s runner to back to back 2:33+ marathons. That or years of interrupted training has caught up.

Jones.33 wrote:

I understood her running the trials because it’s an Olympic dream and at the time she really needed to prove that she could just get to the start line. But it’s clear that her and Paula knew she wasn’t super fit before Valencia, so I’m not sure why she ran. I recall reading that she is doing less volume under Paula and takes a day off every week. Have to wonder if the reduced training is why she’s gone from a low 2:20s runner to back to back 2:33+ marathons. That or years of interrupted training has caught up.

Why she ran? Nike reduction clauses (or missing bonuses) are a mofo, especially when you don't have an in-house coach to make the case for you to Capriotti. It would be her 4th race this year, right? She has a sizable contract and she's been running more like a 2nd-year Hansons teammate this year. I know she has the prima donna mentality that she's independent and leads the way, but I don't think she understands how much she benefits from being in a true pro team environment like she was at NOP and what she's cobbled together in the wake of AlSal's ban isn't even a cheap imitation of that. Too many 'yes men' who work for her and not enough stakeholders who will tell her what she needs to hear but doesn't want to hear.

longest flash ever wrote:

She litterally still holds the 13-14 year old USATF records in the 3000 and I think 1500m too .

Well no wonder she had a bad race if she was forced to run while literally holding the records. They should have allowed her to leave them at the bag drop off.

1.5+ years of horrible races now. I hope she goes back to the track for a season.

Do you remember that she left the track because she was taking a beating on it? U.S. women's track is as competitive as ever; I don't think this is an option.

The thing is, I have no idea what the solution is. At the end of the day though, this is her job and she needs to collect paychecks.

jamin wrote:

Flash in the Pan is a great Tower of Power song

I see what you did there.

Hardloper wrote:

1.5+ years of horrible races now. I hope she goes back to the track for a season.

In the FLCC webinar with Brasovan and Kroeger she said that she was hoping to run at Valencia to see where she is at and then focus on speed/strength for possibly the 10000m/5000m for the track trials.

Regardless of the direction she goes from here, I just hope she is happy and healthy while following the process. She has inspired so many generations of runners to pursue their passion within the sport and that is a true testament to her career and longevity in the sport.

Might be the beginning of the end of her promising career. Looks like she hit her limits already and now she’s finally declining but at much faster pace due to injuries. I also think she’s unhealthy underweight she looks like a person from a concentration camp she has always been this thin since working with Sal I think you can’t train for very long at dangerously unhealthy weight till you get the effects of punishing your body.

I think another athlete that eventually will get in this unfortunate path is Koko. She’s also unhealthy thin.

I think it might be the beginning of the next phase of her career. She’s got one in the bank, is healthy and can continue building.

Consistency is key.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

Are you even good enough to be entitled to provide that criticism?

What makes you qualified?

Don't say freedom. We all have the freedom to flap our yap.

I said qualified.

Out with it, bud. Tell me. What makes you qualified?

I have eyes? You can’t run a successful marathon while being as unhealthily underweight as she is. Look at pictures of her at Oregon and look at pictures of her now. It’s not good.

I’m stating the most obvious thing in the world. Her face actually looks like a skeleton. It is not healthy. Sure be “positive” about her being as underweight as she is. Guarantee you any respectable doctor world tell her she shouldn’t be running due to health concerns.

I’m not hating on her. Just stating facts. And if she reads this (which she is won’t), hopefully she takes it to heart and puts on 5lbs

macdaddy og wrote:

@low wrote:

Aren't youth records that aren't followed up by collegiate and pro records - or at least major championships - a pretty good example of "flash in a pan"?

Youth record setter. 18 time all-American. Three 3rd place finishes at major marathons. 2nd fastest US marathoner ever.

You are making yourself look silly.

Not a single major race win? Very good maybe, but far from amazing.

donut nut wrote:

Do you remember that she left the track because she was taking a beating on it? U.S. women's track is as competitive as ever; I don't think this is an option.

The thing is, I have no idea what the solution is. At the end of the day though, this is her job and she needs to collect paychecks.

Yeah but I think working on her speed and racing more than 3 times a year would be beneficial to her marathons

No. She looks very healthy. She actually looks pretty strong to me. Betting she weighs more than most Africans of the same height.

A great performance or two as a pro, and no big wins and no Olympic teams. She's well on her way to being pretty dang good but just not able to step up when the stakes were highest, like Sara Hall. And unlike Kastor, Flanagan, JBS, or even Cragg and Desi.

Diet cola wrote:

No. She looks very healthy. She actually looks pretty strong to me. Betting she weighs more than most Africans of the same height.

Your body needs fat. Especially when running long distances on a consistent basis.

Pretty sure she isn't 0%. More likely 12%.

mask off wrote:

She's done. Too injury prone whatever the cause.

The cause is her weightlifting program.

Hasay can’t be a flash in the pan. She has been around since 2005. So 15 years of running at a high caliber doesn’t qualify as a flash in the pan.

Like all of us humans she has her up and downs.

truth be told. wrote:

Everyone should remember that every elite athlete is a human with feelings. In the past few years, Jordan has lost her Mom, lost her coach, changed coaches, and had a serious hamstring injury and foot injuries. Through all of this, she's continued to be a positive person and share the highs and lows. She is still young and could comeback. We should encourage her and not continue to kick her while she's down. Have some compassion. You are human too.

This. Yeah, she's had sub-par performances recently, but she's still got a lot of raw talent. I'd love to see her get plugged in with a training group. Rooting for her.