COVID about to get ugly

you know what? congratulations. you win this argument because I don't want to argue with people who don't know what they're talking about

"Covid, covid, covid". We were told that nobody would be talking about covid after the election. Was that a lie?

browski wrote:

Who mentioned "personal enjoyment"? And yes, my child's life is more important than every grandma (including both of his, as they will 100% agree) life on this planet.

Also, you have zero clue what is happening to school children right now, especially in urban areas. For many of my students, school was their only escape from abuse.

But yeah, f them for your 85 year old granny who has less than a year left anyway.

Browski, they have no idea how important school is especially for poor uneducated urban kids.

Agingrunner wrote:

123 wrote:

how about we kill all the adults because they are going to die sooner than the kids anyway?

dumbest thing i've ever heard

We aren't talking about all adults (you know most of whom have less than a 1% chance of death from Covid). We are talking about the group of adults who make up the vast majority of those actually dieing of Covid who also happen to be the group with less than 8 months of life expectancy regardless. My parents are former teachers who are in that high risk category who dont want lockdowns. Don't want children to be out of school. Don't want you speaking for them.

Since when did you start caring about unborn children?

It is sad in this country that our democracy has meant that there are people, often by large majorities in red states, who choose death and suffering over science and safety. In Sioux Falls, the mayor shot down a mask mandate. The positivity rate in SD is over 50% (this is partly a function of insufficient testing resources, but it would still be incredibly high with enough testing to go around).

And what it all boils down to is that people are forcing health care workings into a crisis level situation that is akin to battlefield medicine, forcing people who have done the right thing by keeping clear of the virus but just happened to have an accident or illness to suffer and even have life threatening experiences due to the collapse of the health care system and doing absolutely nothing to help save economic activity, especially when compared to a brief but strict 4-6 week lockdown.

What we are seeing now is just the beginning. Thanksgiving is going to throw a lot of fuel on the fire and so will colder temps hitting the southern states. Health care systems will collapse in a way that can only be described as third world because everywhere in the US will be hard hit and there won't be any ability to move resources to provide assistance in hard hit areas.

Sham 69 wrote:

The difference between a grandma and the rest of us is simple. A grandma has already all the good parts of their life. If I were an old man, I would die of COVID and let all the young people live normal life. I wouldn't demand young people to stay inside and wear masks just so I could live and extra two years.

QFE

I know a few others who have had this experience as well.

Flymash wrote:

The medical profession has had 7-8 months now to ramp up whatever capacity -- supplies, drugs, staff, space -- they think they need for whatever "wave" or "surge" we may see, and stick the taxpayer with any losses they may incur. If they haven't already prepared for this, my already extremely low opinion of the medical profession will be even lower, which I didn't think was possible. What was the point of "flattening the curve" and all we went through earlier in the year, if not to adequately prepare for this?

At this stage of the pandemic, not one person should die because of some alleged capacity or treatment issue with these idiotic hospitals and the alleged "heroes" who work in them.

This

Swaglord_the_real_one_1_1 wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

All grandmas die someday. I don't know what's so controversial about that fact.

Yes brother I agree.

In fact all people die someday. Let's disregard others so that I can prosper.

This is the key to a well-functioning society.

Actually, you hit on the TRUTH like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Humans prosper as a whole when the individual does what is best for the individual. Anything else is a slow die-off.

I just can’t believe after 8 months we still don’t have answers, and there is still a large portion of the population who thinks Covid is a death sentence, and another large portion who think it’s made up and/all the death stats are exaggerated.

With the shutdowns, young kids are fine, for the most part, in school or not. The very poor or abused are not. High school and college kids are getting screwed across the board. Missing out on sports seasons, performing in plays, traveling...etc. Some of these kids spent years in sports practice for their Senior season and then have it cancelled. You may say, oh boo hoo, they need to suck it up, but they are only teenagers and don’t even have fully developed prefrontal cortex. Their brains literally can’t put everything in context.

I know of 8 people who have had Covid at this point and if I had never been told of a Pandemic, I honestly would have assumed all these people had some random viral illness, the type that circulate every year and no one bats an eyelash over. Maybe it’s just been a “mild strain” in our area...I really don’t know.

Runner10287 wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

The difference between a grandma and the rest of us is simple. A grandma has already all the good parts of their life. If I were an old man, I would die of COVID and let all the young people live normal life. I wouldn't demand young people to stay inside and wear masks just so I could live and extra two years.

QFE

Double QFE. It's not just bthst they're robbing more time from the young, it's the long term externalities that all younger generations will face in terms of lost time, developmental stagnation, forgone income and career advancement, lack of family formation, addictions and even suicide. All so Grandma can watch an extra 18 months of Matlock.

123 wrote:

people need to chill and realize that quarantining isn't actually ruining kids lives. its just what needs to happen to stop the spread. its selfish to think "oh im healthy i can't get it" what??? that is not true. also are you so selfish that you are willing to risk other peoples lives just for your own personal enjoyment? what if some idiot gave ur grandma covid and she died?

Wanting our children to get a quality education is selfish?

DanM wrote:

The original pre-COVID projection was for over 2.5 Million Americans to die from Jan. 1, 2020 to today (316 days).

How many have actually died ?

Basic facts would be helpful.

like the basic fact that don't understand projections?

Assuming illiterate or troll, not sure it's possible anyone with basic reading ability wouldn't have figured out by now that we're already exceeding the median projections from this spring......it's been worse than expected. Most projections in march with moderate measure taken were in the 150-250k range and we're already going to fly past that. The 12 month total mid-march to mid-march is going to be close to half a million.

Flymash wrote:

The medical profession has had 7-8 months now to ramp up whatever capacity -- supplies, drugs, staff, space -- they think they need for whatever "wave" or "surge" we may see, and stick the taxpayer with any losses they may incur. If they haven't already prepared for this...

It doesn't help that our fake president downplays the pandemic. Leadership matters.

JO Coach wrote:

"Covid, covid, covid". We were told that nobody would be talking about covid after the election. Was that a lie?

No.

Those were Trumpers who believed it was all about getting Trump.

This Covid Scamdemic is so much bigger than that

Sham 69 wrote:

The difference between a grandma and the rest of us is simple. A grandma has already all the good parts of their life. If I were an old man, I would die of COVID and let all the young people live normal life. I wouldn't demand young people to stay inside and wear masks just so I could live and extra two years.

What part of the word 'contagious' don't you understand?

I'll check back 55 years when you are 70.

Runner10287 wrote:

Sham 69 wrote:

The difference between a grandma and the rest of us is simple. A grandma has already all the good parts of their life. If I were an old man, I would die of COVID and let all the young people live normal life. I wouldn't demand young people to stay inside and wear masks just so I could live and extra two years.

QFE

2600 bro wrote:

I'll check back 55 years when you are 70.

Runner10287 wrote:

QFE

Obama death panels lol.

These guys probably bought all the mis-info about Obamacare too. Just sheep for the right-wing media.

just........huh? wrote:

DanM wrote:

The original pre-COVID projection was for over 2.5 Million Americans to die from Jan. 1, 2020 to today (316 days).

How many have actually died ?

Basic facts would be helpful.

like the basic fact that don't understand projections?

Assuming illiterate or troll, not sure it's possible anyone with basic reading ability wouldn't have figured out by now that we're already exceeding the median projections from this spring......it's been worse than expected. Most projections in march with moderate measure taken were in the 150-250k range and we're already going to fly past that. The 12 month total mid-march to mid-march is going to be close to half a million.

These FACTS were pulled from the National Center for Health Statistics Data Briefs (2019 has not been published as of today):

In 2018, a total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States

In 2017, a total of 2,813,503 resident deaths were registered in the United States

In 2016, a total of 2,744,248 resident deaths were registered in the United States

In 2015, a total of 2,712,630 resident deaths were registered in the United States

In 2014, a total of 2,626,418 resident deaths were registered in the United States

In 2013, a total of 2,596,993 resident deaths were registered in the United States

It was fair to assume that 2.9 Million deaths would occur in the United States in 2020. That was before COVID-19 appeared.

The first official US death from COVID-19 was on Feb. 6 in Santa Clara County, CA.

How about YOU tell us what the final number for 2020 US deaths will be ?

The development, education and well being of children is being sacrificed at the altar of the AARP, who own the politicians.

Harambe wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

I'll check back 55 years when you are 70.

Obama death panels lol.

These guys probably bought all the mis-info about Obamacare too. Just sheep for the right-wing media.

That's exactly what I thought. Now they're deciding the old and vulnerable need to die so the kids can go back to their minimum wage jobs and pay off the mountain of debt of college loans and mortgages they've accrued.