How is Sweden doing with COVID-19 today?

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Harambe wrote:

You would have hated WWII

I’ve heard this argument a few times and it’s ridiculous on a few levels. However, just to get to the crux of the absurdity- we are not in an actual war. If Trump or Biden want to “declare war” on COVID-19 they have to go through the proper legal steps to get a “Declaration of War” .

Until the government does that I will not be obeying any unconstitutional grab of my civil liberties

Remember you are in Sweden now. But never mind, just go to the court. Nice legal analysis.

Form "the back log". 4034 new infections and 12 new registered deaths to day. And a lot of new restrictions in parts of Sweden.

KaareV wrote:

Form "the back log". 4034 new infections and 12 new registered deaths to day. And a lot of new restrictions in parts of Sweden.

What's a "backlog"?

Someone died weeks ago getting reclassified as a Covid death to boost totals?

KaareV wrote:

Sans Covid, nearly 250 people die per day there.

First 6 months 51 405 deaths in Sweden, the highest since 1869. In average 4633 more than the years 2015-2019. And in the beginning of this year it was lower than the previous years. Hope that this will give you more insight.[/quote].

I does.

And now the daily deaths have been in single figures for three plus months.

Not locking down worked.

According to svt.se there was 5 new deaths reported today. Wierd numbers, low, higher, higher, low

JohnnyS wrote:

According to svt.se there was 5 new deaths reported today. Wierd numbers, low, higher, higher, low

Five people dying "with" Covid in a nation of 10 million plus that sees 250 deaths per day.

Lock it down.

Suspend all rights.

Ruin all small businesses.

Take away kids childhoods.

Destroy social lives.

KaareV wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

I’ve heard this argument a few times and it’s ridiculous on a few levels. However, just to get to the crux of the absurdity- we are not in an actual war. If Trump or Biden want to “declare war” on COVID-19 they have to go through the proper legal steps to get a “Declaration of War” .

Until the government does that I will not be obeying any unconstitutional grab of my civil liberties

Remember you are in Sweden now. But never mind, just go to the court. Nice legal analysis.

Responding to Harambe’s ridiculous WWII comparison.

I’m not in Sweden.

No, I don’t have to go to court. However, the president has to go to congress to get the Declaration of War. I’ll keep living my life exactly as before.

Hey Precious Roy, a friend’s daughter just got committed to the hospital on suicide watch as she has two half days a week at school and not much socialization.

How long do you want to keep this charade up, especially since we know that the MAJORITY of the serious cases are in very old or very obese people w comorbidities?

Kids and young adults are largely unaffected. You would have them locked down through 2022. Fukk you and your acolytes. And I mean that sincerely.

germany and sweden both removed from uk's quarantine free list.

shame, since going to Germany on Monday.

and another assessment of Sweden's stellar performance.

Covidiocy wrote:

Hey Precious Roy, a friend’s daughter just got committed to the hospital on suicide watch as she has two half days a week at school and not much socialization.

How long do you want to keep this charade up, especially since we know that the MAJORITY of the serious cases are in very old or very obese people w comorbidities?

Kids and young adults are largely unaffected. You would have them locked down through 2022. Fukk you and your acolytes. And I mean that sincerely.

Do people react like that in USA? Strange culture. Right, older people die. Almost all of them have underlying conditions. But the problem is'nt just the people dying, but the overload at hospitals is a main reason to have restrictions. Or else businesses, due to people getting sick, are badly hurt if not. Learn to live with restrictions. In my country less sucides the last 6 months.

Other guy wrote:

JohnnyS wrote:

According to svt.se there was 5 new deaths reported today. Wierd numbers, low, higher, higher, low

Five people dying "with" Covid in a nation of 10 million plus that sees 250 deaths per day.

Lock it down.

Suspend all rights.

Ruin all small businesses.

Take away kids childhoods.

Destroy social lives.

Sweden now, deaths are, as I told you, on the rise. The registration there is a bit weird. So we have to sum up every week. Steadly rising since September. 13 new deaths still not registered. So in the Nordic countries there have been som calm months. But even all the three other Nordic countries the infections are also sharply rising. Not so much in Finland, and much.much more in Sweden. New restrictions in Sweden to day because they are afraid of overloading the hospitals. Suspend all rights? Ruin small businesses? Well, not here. But preparing so we don't have to do a lock down. Social lives, yes, on the hold . Also in Sweden. There is a pandemic going on whether you like it or not. But in some countries there are a lack of disiplin and patience. People less and less used to hardship. But now is the time to be a bit tougher. And in the weeks to come there will be more and more deaths in Sweden. It has started. 28 yesterday, 5 to day. And then more to morrow. For the time being. Sweden no good.

pupil3142 wrote:

germany and sweden both removed from uk's quarantine free list.

shame, since going to Germany on Monday.

and another assessment of Sweden's stellar performance.

No, an assessment on irrational and nutless politicians.

My state peaked at about 50% hospital capacity, and has remained steady, which mirrors previous years, plus or minus a few points. I don't want to "learn to live with restrictions", you jump on that slippery slope, I will resist.

I don't know why I continue to respond to posts like these, but hospitals in the US where the harshest restrictions are in place are in no danger of being "overloaded". California hasabout 75k beds and 3400 of them are occupied by covid patients currently. Chances are many of them would be in the hospital with something else. Either way, Newsome is trying to limit Thanksgiving dinners. This has nothing to do with hospitals, it is about power. Everyone knows this, only some of us are admitting it.

Harambe wrote:

browski wrote:

I agree. And I value civil liberties and an open economy higher than anyone's health. I don't care how many people die, it's not the US Gov't's right to force business to close or tell people they can't gather for holidays.

You would have hated WWII

Well, I am a Jew, so....

Yeah, I'd imagine WWII was a tough time to be a citizen of any nation. Newsflash: This isn't WWII. It's a highly contagious virus with practically zero chances of killing a healthy person under the age of 70. Slight difference.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Harambe wrote:

You would have hated WWII

I’ve heard this argument a few times and it’s ridiculous on a few levels. However, just to get to the crux of the absurdity- we are not in an actual war. If Trump or Biden want to “declare war” on COVID-19 they have to go through the proper legal steps to get a “Declaration of War” .

Until the government does that I will not be obeying any unconstitutional grab of my civil liberties

I see. So you need the government to tell you that we are fighting something that is a great threat to public safety. Can't make up the mind on your own. Sheesh.

Two more weeks, just two more weeks until the spike in Deaths in Sweden. Rejoice whence it cometh.

Precious Boy wrote:

Two more weeks, just two more weeks until the spike in Deaths in Sweden. Rejoice whence it cometh.

Please people, you are wasting your time trying to argue with the troll Harambe/Bro 2600/Precious Roy et al....It is one trolltastic liar that will just keep spinning reality to sell a narrative; don't waste your time with with singular moron; he is pushing fear for a reason and does not care that that fear has killed so many this past year. Just ignore the liar.

Bro are you stuck? You keep posting the same thing! I'm gonna try unplugging you and plugging you back in - let me know if it works!

Lead Foil Hat wrote:

Precious Boy wrote:

Two more weeks, just two more weeks until the spike in Deaths in Sweden. Rejoice whence it cometh.

Please people, you are wasting your time trying to argue with the troll Harambe/Bro 2600/Precious Roy et al....It is one trolltastic liar that will just keep spinning reality to sell a narrative; don't waste your time with with singular moron; he is pushing fear for a reason and does not care that that fear has killed so many this past year. Just ignore the liar.