Karoline Grovdal, Norway, 30:30 -10km, just 31 seconds behind Kilian Jornet!

Maybe. Time will tell when she makes the leap to the marathon if she has it or not. The roads have suited her, and if she can stay healthy I see her making progress.

Norway distance running has been dormant for about 40 years and all of a sudden national records are being broken left and right and everyone is suspending disbelief.

The caveat is that time is not on her side because she is already 30 years old. However, frequent injuries in her career could prolong her career up to around 35 years old or even older but that is unusual. If she is to show something in the marathon it should be done within the next 2 to 3 years I feel. She has the right combination of leg speed, 204 800, and endurance to perform well in the marathon.

heyyyy another scamthenavyan world beater, nothing suspicius at all

Grovdal’s technique and biomechanics are OK. They are not the best but they are adequate I would say. Is it the same course in which Jacob ran 2756 last year?

Norway - so many strong aerobic beasts. Now if they were built like Japanese - tiny and skeletal they would run even faster but genetics cannot change their basic constitutions.

The good point is that most Norwegians don’t have to worry about putting food on the table. Even with basic jobs they can afford to live a decent life and practice athletics as a hobby. Norway, for many people the best country in the world to live for overall quality of life, safety, and other factors.

Just goes to show, elite ultra-runners are very mediocre athletes. Dude almost got chick’d.

comedy-relief wrote:

Just goes to show, elite ultra-runners are very mediocre athletes. Dude almost got chick’d.

You are right as there are ultra runners who call themselves elite who cannot beat 240 in the marathon.

Loppas wrote:

truth be told. wrote:

I’ve always thought she had the grit to be the next Paula in the marathon.

I don't think she has the chance to be the next Paula in the marathon. Still she is behind Ingrid Kristiansen and Grete Waitz' track times, and they did 2,21 and 2,24 on marathon (Grete never ran for good times). Maybe Karoline can dip under 2,20 in a good race with the right training, but she can not come close to Paula!

And she is prone to injury, I feel she has an injury almost every year!

Didn't Hasay, who we know would never be a doping cheater, run a 2:20? This Grovdal has times that would lap Hasay on the track.

Loppas wrote:

truth be told. wrote:

I’ve always thought she had the grit to be the next Paula in the marathon.

I don't think she has the chance to be the next Paula in the marathon. Still she is behind Ingrid Kristiansen and Grete Waitz' track times, and they did 2,21 and 2,24 on marathon (Grete never ran for good times). Maybe Karoline can dip under 2,20 in a good race with the right training, but she can not come close to Paula!

And she is prone to injury, I feel she has an injury almost every year!

‘Grete never ran for good times?’

Did she break the WR in her first three New York wins (won ten)?

Come on, I am impressed, it was very good, and I love her, but Hytteplanmila is the fastest track for 10 k roadraces in Scandinavia, so that cancels out most of the posts.

ggarc wrote:

Norway distance running has been dormant for about 40 years and all of a sudden national records are being broken left and right and everyone is suspending disbelief.

This happened also with Norwegian skiers 40 years ago.

I have to say one thing. You should not underestimate two matters:

1:

Norwegian dugnad which very much applies for sport, please google the word, but for you I guess it means communism or something, and you are the loser.

2:

Norwegian scientific approach to sports and all matters of life.

Try and see the covid numbers in Norway compared to other nations. But that is hard for the USpeople as you have a president that disallow science as a valid point of discussion or see free press as the enemy, and many have religious believs that support that science is bull.

Ghost1 is obviously Norwegian or Scandinavian (which makes his self-aggrandizing of "tall, strong" "viking" physiques all the more embarrassing, and exaggerated in a European context).

He is right that it was a great performance. However, he is, as noted above, downplaying how conducive the course is to very fast times.

https://hytteplanmila.no/loypekart-2/

The group atmosphere on course helps as well, and the shoes may account for some seconds. But it would still be a great performance worthy of more attention.

Aussiestatman wrote:

Loppas wrote:

I don't think she has the chance to be the next Paula in the marathon. Still she is behind Ingrid Kristiansen and Grete Waitz' track times, and they did 2,21 and 2,24 on marathon (Grete never ran for good times). Maybe Karoline can dip under 2,20 in a good race with the right training, but she can not come close to Paula!

And she is prone to injury, I feel she has an injury almost every year!

‘Grete never ran for good times?’

Did she break the WR in her first three New York wins (won ten)?

She broke the world record in her first races, but ran over 2,30. The world record for women was not strong in the late 70' as not many women ran the marathon. Grete ran 4,00 for 1500 and 8,31 for 3000m, so she had more potential than her PB of 2,24 show!

Loppas wrote:

Aussiestatman wrote:

‘Grete never ran for good times?’

Did she break the WR in her first three New York wins (won ten)?

She broke the world record in her first races, but ran over 2,30. The world record for women was not strong in the late 70' as not many women ran the marathon. Grete ran 4,00 for 1500 and 8,31 for 3000m, so she had more potential than her PB of 2,24 show!

I'd say that her XC record was more suggestive of her marathon capability.

Chicked wrote:

Does KJ ever get chicked on his epic and legendary Instagram self-reported, self-timed, self-measured training 10Ks of 29:30 after warming up with vertical K and 12x400 in 57s and hilly 25miler?

Don't know, but Jakob got chicked by 4.5+ minutes.

njordnevernarve wrote:

Ghost1 is obviously Norwegian or Scandinavian (which makes his self-aggrandizing of "tall, strong" "viking" physiques all the more embarrassing, and exaggerated in a European context).

He is right that it was a great performance. However, he is, as noted above, downplaying how conducive the course is to very fast times.

https://hytteplanmila.no/loypekart-2/

The group atmosphere on course helps as well, and the shoes may account for some seconds. But it would still be a great performance worthy of more attention.

Ghost - he’s not Scandinavian, but would be very happy to have a Norwegian passport and citizenship but that’s not going to happen. Norway is not even in the European community, but Svenska is. Sweden is on the radar for ghost in the future as a possible retirement place. Thank you for your encouragement at selling Scandinavia to potential retirees. This is well justified.