World Health Organization Appeals to World Leaders: STOP USING LOCKDOWNS- MAKES POOR PEOPLE POORER

You need this- stop lying to yourself:

https://twitter.com/jonkirbysthlm/status/1315648772828016643

appleswan wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Lockdowns don't work...under ANY circumstances. Purely a medieval-level political flex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6IeN6sgJ3g

Is this what it's come to? Insisting a virus which spreads between people can't be controlled by minimizing contact between people?

Every other virus in history has been contained through individual and collective immunity, not indefinitely avoiding each other. If you actually listen to the interview you might actually learn some basic biology, which is steadfastly ignored by those seeking to upend society for their own political purposes.

The people with true mental illness are walking alone with masks on six months after the community threat of infection has passed.

For people with psychosis and/or autistic disorders, hiding under a mask no doubt provides an imagined security shield against invisible, imagined threats they feel to be all around them. If you are among these(several OCD posters well-known to anyone reading these threads), get help before it takes your sanity completely.

Not a single person in the US wants a lockdown. Not one. The conservative spin that left-leaning folks WANT it is as illogical as suggesting people WANT to wear masks for extended period of times.

Lockdowns are awful. And taken directly from the OP's link, "lockdown's should not be used as a primary method for controlling COVID 19 spread." Unfortunately, there is no plan. And that's the point. Lockdowns can be absolutely avoided. If the dummies in charge HAD A PLAN, and the dummies ready to vote for those same dummies FOLLOWED THEM.

Allen53 wrote:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1315731714539425792

Then we probably shouldn't have any more lockdowns. What's your plan to mitigate COVID-19?

The following was on Facebook, with an accompanying video – from a gym owner in Liverpool who says he will not obey. Last time I looked there were 744 comments and they all seemed to be in favour of his defiance. Note to mods – I apologise for the length of the post.

Nick Capo Whitcombe

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WE ARE STAYING OPEN TO OUR MEMBERS

Today the UK’s Government has took it upon themselves to close gyms in the North West, despite the overwhelming evidence that gyms are not a major spreaders of COVID.

We respected the last lockdown although we financially suffered and only survived because of our amazing members. However they now want us to close, with minimum financial support for 6 months. We get no rent break, bills break both personally and as a business.

We are not staying open for financial gain but more for our members mental and physical well-being. Gym’s should be supported in fighting against COVID, obesity, mental health and many other conditions and diseases. So let’s look at the facts and evidence that has lead us to this decision and what the Government should be looking at:

UKActive published this study –

https://www.ukactive.com/

• 22,000,000 (22 million) gym visits resulted in a mere 78 Covid cases

• Uk gyms showing just 0.35 cases per 100,000 visits

Then we have the latest (unpublished study) since the increase in positive tests

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-54464470

• Gyms are still only showing 1.7% percent of cases, but they want to close us and keep restaurants open which have a higher rate of 9.6% cases, which is still CRAZY LOW so these should also stay open.

Mental health – the gym helps so many people with their mental health daily.

• Male suicide is now at an all time high –

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3431

Data published by the Office for National Statistics on 1 September showed that in 2019 the suicide rate among men and boys was 16.9 deaths per 100 000, the highest since 2000 and slightly above the 2018 rate of 16.2 per 100 000. The suicide rate among women and girls was 5.3 deaths per 100 000 in 2019, up from 5.0 per 100 000 in 2018 and the highest since 2004.

Overall, 5691 suicides (4303 in men and boys) were registered in England and Wales in 2019, giving an age standardised rate of 11 deaths per 100 000 people. A total of 5420 were registered in 2018 (10.5 per 100 000).

Further supported by this

https://academic.oup.com/qjmed/article/113/10/707/5857612

which discusses suicide, mental health and COVID

The Government has ignored all the above facts and evidence and even ignored the calls of the Great Barrington Declaration 7,000 scientists & medics worldwide calling for a new strategy to allow us to live our lives.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

Joe Anderson, the Mayor of Liverpool has also today, stated he does not agree with the measures the government are enforcing on Merseyside and they did not let him have a say about HIS REGION and that the government are “more interested in what they look like, rather than the evidence”

In the USA, for those under age 45, lockdown deaths exceed Covid deaths by nearly 2:1, through the end of August.

For those aged 45-74, lockdown deaths account for 23% of net Excess mortality; mortality displacement explains (at minimum) a further 24%.

For those older than 75, mortality displacement drove 26% of excess mortality and lockdowns drove a further 18%.

Deaths due to lockdown: increases in suicide, overdose, child abuse, domestic violence, murder, hospital avoidance, missed cancer screenings, missed vaccinations, stillbirth and SIDS, panic-induced heart attacks....

https://twitter.com/Humble_Analysis/status/1315765779854323712

Get some help.

CircusClowns wrote:

Not a single person in the US wants a lockdown. Not one. The conservative spin that left-leaning folks WANT it is as illogical as suggesting people WANT to wear masks for extended period of times.

Lockdowns are awful. And taken directly from the OP's link, "lockdown's should not be used as a primary method for controlling COVID 19 spread." Unfortunately, there is no plan. And that's the point. Lockdowns can be absolutely avoided. If the dummies in charge HAD A PLAN, and the dummies ready to vote for those same dummies FOLLOWED THEM.

Lockdowns can be avoided by simply not doing them. The Democrat mindset is that lockdowns are better than the alternative (no lockdowns), not that lockdowns are some ideal scenario. The ideal scenario would be no virus, obviously.

CircusClowns wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1315731714539425792

Then we probably shouldn't have any more lockdowns. What's your plan to mitigate COVID-19?

There's nothing to mitigate- jeezus what in the world is wrong with you people.

Do you think you get to live forever? Average age of "Covid death" in UK was just released- it's 82.4 years old and ALL with SEVERE underlying conditions- that's called old age. That number BTW EXCEEDS average lifespans in UK by a few years.

If we did PCR tests on the common cold we would get 350,000 to 1,000,000 deaths by cold every year. Should we start that up?

Always protect the most vulnerable in society- should be a feature of any sane society.

All of you fear mongers who think the government cares about your health truly live in some alternate universe that refuses to observe the mountains of facts right in front of your face.

The more important question is why did you allow yourself to be pulled in to this manufactured hysteria?

Seppo Kaitenen wrote:

trollism wrote:

Get some help.

You are a heartless cvnt. You get some help.

Calm down mate, you seem upset about something.

This is a new name to me, you oddballs do go through a lot of names. Why do you need to change handles so much?

Now the shameless mass-killer Andrew Cuomo is trying to profit off his hideous behavior:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5tuci5i5g4

This guy should be in jail, instead is instigating more fascist, useless lockdowns. Unbelievable.

What about the millions of people in the US who are in an involuntary lockdown? The immunocompromised? The senior citizens? The people with comorbidities? In the US, there are 35 million diabetics. 70 million are obese. 49 million are over the age of 65. 108 million have hypertension. 10 million people are immunocompromised. 30 million people have heart disease. These people are all at a very real risk of a severe case of COVID 19 if exposed. That can include extended hospitalization, including being induced into a coma to be placed on a ventilator, months of suffering with illness and physical impairment that can include everything from cognitive impairment, blood clots, impaired kidney function, breathing problems and vasculitis, and the possibility of permanent physical impairment (we don't know yet whether the long haulers will ever get better). These people have no choice but to lock themselves down when we allow the virus to spread out of control. Why don't they count?

The real reason lockdowns cause harm (but not nearly as much harm as the virus) is purely political. Every economic harm caused by lockdowns can be remedied through the political process. COVID enhanced unemployment benefits cost only 260 billion and actually helped reduce poverty during the first few months of the outbreak. Big business got nearly twice as much in aid under the CARES Act. Governments have the power to stop evictions, utility shut offs and forgive debts. But we do not do that because the stock market is the only priority for politicians. Thus public health in our society becomes some sort of privilege that is secondary to the requirements of capital. The COVID deniers are deployed to convince people that the virus is a sham so that people will accept the hard COVID causes and believe that they have to get sick and suffer because there is no alternative.

ydgbtyytybnbZ wrote:

We'd all be safer if the owners of this site would delete the OP.

Yes, censorship is the answer. Do differing opinions, or data that does not support your dogma, hurt your fascist ears?

What about all those people with PREVENTABLE medical conditions? 70 million obese? Please...and the healthy is supposed to feel sorry for them? 35 million with diabetes? 108 million with hypertension? 30 million with heart disease? All preventable conditions! Maybe these people should have a little discipline and eat healthy & exercise once in awhile. I saw at least a 400 lb women the other day in Walmart on a scooter with her cart loaded with pop, snacks & a bunch of unhealthy crap. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for someone like that? Where's her personal responsibility that allowed herself to decline into such a dreadful state of health! And these people are the ones that expect the government to protect them from this virus. It's these people that want the healthy people vaccinated to protect them (there's a strong possibility that the vaccine will be ineffective for most of the obese).

Many Americans take responsibility for their health; both young & old. Many of these people work full-time or even two jobs and the find time to excercise, and certainly at the very least, eat healthy (I worked two jobs out of college and found time!). Many people with family commitments and stressful jobs find time to excercise. And many of the elderly aren't sick and full of comorbidities. Many exercise and eat healthy way into their retirement age. I know so many grand masters in the running club I belong to that are in phenominal shape and are not on any prescription medication. They're all low risk for suffering death or serious complications from this virus. Again...they take responsibility for their health and set a good example for the younger people.

This mindset of feeling sorry for these people with preventable health conditions has got to stop! The healthy should not be punished for people who don't take responsibility for their health. Sure, adults wearing a mask and social distancing is fine (maybe it makes the most vulnerable feel better), but closing & setting restrictions for businesses & gyms/fitness centers, restricting large gathers (sporting events, concerts, etc.), masking kids up like bandits & forcing social distancing on them at school, governors acting dictators, etc., is all a bunch of BS! This is merely a power control by the government using the virus, which is nothing more than a cold virus to the young & healthy, as a Psy Ops on people!

A government ruling by fear!

You preach about how liberals don’t want the lockdown, but then spin around with a big grin while sitting on your hands “Trump doesn’t have a plan, guess this is what we need!”

Let's dig deeper into this wrote:

Many Americans take responsibility for their health; both young & old. Many of these people work full-time or even two jobs and the find time to excercise, and certainly at the very least, eat healthy (I worked two jobs out of college and found time!). Many people with family commitments and stressful jobs find time to excercise.

Having a stressful job and working on top of family commitments doesn't sound too healthy! Stress is a leading cause of hypertension and causes the body to store fat. Why don't they take responsibility and be less stressed?!

2600 bro. wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

So you support these lockdowns and further lockdowns? So you support increases in teen suicides, increased homelessness, increased starvation, increased unemployment, increased home foreclosures, increases in devastation of small businesses and accompanying insecurity?

Be honest- you don't get one without the other.

You Covid Doomers are some of the lowest expressions of humanity in recent history.

You literally lack the ability have a single critical thought so I don't even know why I'm responding to you.

But no. NO SERIOUS EPIDEMIOLOGIST ADVOCATES FOR ENDLESS LOCKDOWNS.

YOU ARE MAKING UP A FAKE BOOGIEMAN BECAUSE YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL.

STOP POSTING HERE.

SEEK HELP.

Ie YOU ARE KILLING OUR LIBERAL NARRATIVE!!