Doctors are the single most ineffective profession in the modern world

No, the TSA is far more ineffective.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepointsguy.com/2017/07/tsa-fails-to-detect-threats/amp/

Oh, by the way, they improved from 96% failure to 94% the TSA actually claimed the improved security by 50%. Which is mathematically correct but misleading on an epic scale.

The name is registered, so I have to ask : Any relation to Daniel Kahneman, the Nobel Prize winner?

Doctors are highly competent, but relatively ineffective at preventing the major chronic conditions that affect US citizens. That's largely because it's beyond scope..their duty, if you will, is to treat the patient before them.

If the goal is to improve health, a different approach is needed. And there is a big vacuum in this space that many large companies, particularly in Silicon Valley, are looking to fill. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

I practice medicine. It is indeed a practice. Some of it is straightforward and rewarding. Remember your words if you ever suffer a laceration, need a dislocated joint reduced, your newborn needs a spinal tap, or your grandmother needs to be intubated.

Agree 100%

replace the word incompetent with EVIL

A big problem with the medical profession is a misallocation of talent:

- Lots of bright people study medicine (in part) because of prestige.

- Yet the marginal difference you make to the world in becoming a doctor is small compared to other professions.

Ideally, more people considering medicine would go into other professions instead.

medicine is broken wrote:

There is no other profession out there whose members are as bad at what they claim to do. You take your car to a mechanic, it gets fixed. You hire a lawyer, he gets you the best outcome possible. A firefighter puts out the fire. A landscaper get your lawn mowed. An accountant does your taxes accurately. .

LOL The OP is completely wrong

My neighbour pays good money for his landscaping and his lawn is always full of crabgrass and weeds.

And what about Cops? Only 17% of property crimes are solved. Years ago, my property was vandalized. I reported to both the police and the sheriff. Neither one could be bothered to help.

Firefighters? Oh please They douse the fire after property is already destroyed

Accountants? Many people who are audited by the IRS had their taxes done by accountants.

Civil Engineers: Many buildings eventually develop structural problems

Software Developers: Oh please all software has bugs in it

Network Engineers: Man how many times do you lose your internet connection or drop your call

No profession is 100% efficient

moorest wrote:

Doctors are highly competent, but relatively ineffective at preventing the major chronic conditions that affect US citizens. That's largely because it's beyond scope..their duty, if you will, is to treat the patient before them.

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Most diseases are genetic and lifestyle.

We dont like to talk about genetics, but they have WAY more control on who we are, what we can do, and what we are susceptible to than anyone likes to say. If your grandmother, and mother all had cancer, your chances of getting cancer are huge. Same thing with heart disease on down the line.

The doctor can't say, Man- you have bad genes. You have a real predisposition to cancer. Nothing I can do here. Later gator! He has to deal with it.

Also they have people that treat their bodies like a garbage can for 50 years then wonder why their knees give out (200 lbs over weight) they have a heart condition and need drugs for the rest of their lives. The doctor can tell them to get exercise and to watch what they eat.. but you cant make them. Just treat them.

moorest wrote:

Doctors are highly competent, but relatively ineffective at preventing the major chronic conditions that affect US citizens. That's largely because it's beyond scope..their duty, if you will, is to treat the patient before them.

If the goal is to improve health, a different approach is needed. And there is a big vacuum in this space that many large companies, particularly in Silicon Valley, are looking to fill. It will be interesting to see how this develops.

Sure but the reality is that getting people to eat decent food (and we aren't talking organic and kale here. Just things that are like food and not heavily processed crap), exercise, sleep 7+ hours/day and to not smoke or drink is almost impossible for 90% of the population. I doubt tech is going to solve those issues.

You’re absolutely wrong.

The human body physiology is much complex than you think.

Medicine training is vast so there are so many specialties and sub specialties.

Also remember that the health system is far from perfect, if we had a better health system we would have more patient satisfaction.

Is not the same when a billionaire gets his medical care in comparison with a person that lives under poverty line.

Also remember that insurances and pharmaceutical companies are the evil of the system and they basically dictate your options.

Please don’t blame the Docs, I can guarantee you that the immense majority are well trained and have in mind the best interest in making good impact in our health and society.

You are comparing medicine to a mechanic?

Let me ask you this, when was the last time a mechanic replaced a spark plug and the entire car exploded?

The medicine that works for one patient can kill another. Patients can have phantom pain or issues that are completely in their head. A tiny blockage in an artery in just the wrong place can be fatal in minutes. The human body is an extremely complicated organism that we still are struggling to completely understand. I should hope a mechanic would have more success than a doctor.

What a stupid post.

Amazing. When the OP has a ruptured appendix I assume he will just fix it himself. Good luck.

Doctors also NEVER WORK.

Ever wonder why it's so hard to make an appointment? Ask about your Dr.'s full schedule sometime. I guarantee it's something like "she's here Tuesday, Thursday, and one Monday a month from 11:00-4:00."

Every single one of my doctors are like this. PCP, specialists, my kid's pediatrician...all of them.

My wife gave birth a few weeks ago and she asked the midwife, the pediatricians, the lactation woman, etc. in the hospital if our son had a tongue tie or lip tie...all said no.

2 weeks later she was in lots of pain and went to see another lactation consultant and sure enough he has a tongue tie/lip tie. SMH

xlev2 wrote:

I always love the analogies between an auto mechanic and a physician. You really show what an incredibly basic mind you have when you say that.

Maybe some day Bill Gates will have his way and we'll be able to plug your body into a computer to give a read out of whats wrong and make repairs accordingly.

I mean you really expect resources for a full scale investigation? Small time property crime with no evidence or witnesses kind of hard to do much. Unless the crook returns and gets caught red handed.

Nope! Not even close! Meterorologist are even worse!!! They give you a 10 day forecast and have the ability to change it 12 times without even saying wow I was wrong!