Yes or No: Do you believe the reported 200,000 coronavirus deaths?

David Wowie wrote:

CorrectorII wrote:

Any of your direct friends have cancer? That's the 2nd leading cause of death in the US

Two close friends were diagnosed with cancer and each was gone within 4 weeks since March.

You only know two people who have died from the 2nd leading cause of death in the US! It could be said you “barely know” anyone

The bottom line is that going by “knowing someone” to draw conclusions on how widespread or dangerous a condition is not a good approach.

Reported, yes. But I figure there must be at least 20-25% unreported, or misdiagnosed.

No

*crickets*

For Precious

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/alex-berenson-medias-focus-on-covid-death-count-designed-to-spread-panic-make-virus-seem-more-dangerous-than-it-is.amp

I think it is likely, but I am not betting on that. What kind of messed up narcissist bets that 10s of thousands of extra people will die? Dude, what is wrong with you? That is just sick.

CorrectorII wrote:

Are you denying the exponential growth rate of the virus if no measures are taken? It's not that models predict it, but looking at a log plot of cases shows exponential growth. No special data set or PhD is needed for that.

Yes, the growth normally only stays exponential for a very short while; only one portion of any growth curve is exponential; if we actually had exponential growth like you are saying the whole world would have been wiped out centuries ago. Viruses do not follow exponential growth. The growth phase of anything can be modeled as an exponential function, but this is affected by other things and never, NEVER, stays exponential for long. You really don't understand what you area talking about but keep chastising people for saying things that seem reasonable to anyone, even most scientists. Stop.

Lead Foil Hat 2 wrote:

The growth phase of anything can be modeled as an exponential function, but this is affected by other things and never, NEVER, stays exponential for long.

Yes, this is correct.

For instance, there are still some people who say that Earth's human population is growing "exponentially"--that has actually not been true for decades.

Lead Foil Hat 2 wrote:

CorrectorII wrote:

Are you denying the exponential growth rate of the virus if no measures are taken? It's not that models predict it, but looking at a log plot of cases shows exponential growth. No special data set or PhD is needed for that.

Yes, the growth normally only stays exponential for a very short while; only one portion of any growth curve is exponential; if we actually had exponential growth like you are saying the whole world would have been wiped out centuries ago. Viruses do not follow exponential growth. The growth phase of anything can be modeled as an exponential function, but this is affected by other things and never, NEVER, stays exponential for long. You really don't understand what you area talking about but keep chastising people for saying things that seem reasonable to anyone, even most scientists. Stop.

You are the once putting words on others. You put "Exponential Growth" in the list of things that "never happened" The growth was exponential with varying rates at different times exactly as expected by the models

He's not betting that more people will die. He's betting the trend will simply continue match the expected numbers and not dip by 200k in the next few months.

Still

*crickets*

David Wowie?

CorrectorII wrote:

Lead Foil Hat 2 wrote:

I think it is likely, but I am not betting on that. What kind of messed up narcissist bets that 10s of thousands of extra people will die? Dude, what is wrong with you? That is just sick.

He's not betting that more people will die. He's betting the trend will simply continue match the expected numbers and not dip by 200k in the next few months.

Ok, that is still betting on a higher deaths count. What? It is sick and demented.

joedirt wrote:

C jessup wrote:

I believe you are an idiot. For example 2 pac died of respiratory failure that led to cardiac arrest. According to you he the shooting didn’t matter.

Actually, if Tupac would have had COVID in his system (much like George Floyd had COVID in his system), he would have been counted as a COVID death.

Come on, everyone knows Tupac is still alive on a yacht in the Pacific somewhere.

TheCorrectorII wrote:

David Wowie wrote:

Two close friends were diagnosed with cancer and each was gone within 4 weeks since March.

You only know two people who have died from the 2nd leading cause of death in the US! It could be said you “barely know” anyone

The bottom line is that going by “knowing someone” to draw conclusions on how widespread or dangerous a condition is not a good approach.

Wow. Denial runs deep with you. Seven months of a deadly and incredibly infectious virus and most of us don't know anyone who has even had mild symptoms. WE are supposed to ignore this and believe what we see in the media without question?

CorrectorII wrote:

Not Buying The Hype Anymore! wrote:

I have a sister who is a cancer survivor. I have 3 friends from the gym who have battle cancer over the last couple of years. And I have close friend from the master's running club I belong to that had cancer twice over the last 5 yrs!

So you don't personally ANYONE who's actually DIED from the 2nd leading cause of death in the US? Do you see where this is going?

Actually as I already said I know two people who have died of cancer since the Covid hit.

Not the answer you wanted and I see you are already spinning this

Lead Foil Hat 2 wrote:

CorrectorII wrote:

He's not betting that more people will die. He's betting the trend will simply continue match the expected numbers and not dip by 200k in the next few months.

Ok, that is still betting on a higher deaths count. What? It is sick and demented.

Betting clarifies the mind

As pessimistic as this interpretation of our current state sounds, it implies a solution: raise the cost of holding wrong beliefs. One way to do this is by offering a bet. Suppose your uncle says Trump has the silent majority and there is no way he will lose the 2020 election; offer him a bet. Tell him you are not so sure, but since he claims there is “no way” Trump will lose, would he give you 10:1 odds? With his brain switched into cost-avoidance mode, he may hem and haw before trying to talk you down to even odds or refusing the bet entirely. The offer of a bet reduces his certainty because it makes him think in terms of what he has to give up to espouse that position. “A bet,” says Alex Tabarrok, “is a tax on bullshit.”

What is your point, betting that many people will die is something only a self absorbed idiot would do. It is still sick and demented. Gambling in general is not gambling and hoping on others dying. A lot of detached morons on this website.