Parents: is there anything worse than Zoom school?

covid, take me please wrote:

This is torture.

My daughters getting sick would be worse. We did it for months and wasn't that big of deal. Way too easy for my younger daughter (2nd grade) but an active parent can make up for that. Kids got a little bored in the house most of the say but have to get creative. Although you just want people to agree with you so this is a waste of time.

Do me a favor and look up statistics on COVID in children. Your daughter is not at risk for anything.

There is absolutely no way to know that--especially with something like COVID that seems to have chronic effects on the cardiovascular system.

For all we know, 20 years from now there will be a rash of people in their 30s experiencing valve failures because COVID destroyed their hearts when they didn't get sick enough to actually rest for a month while infected.

covid, take me please wrote:

Do me a favor and look up statistics on COVID in children. Your daughter is not at risk for anything.

That didn’t take long for the trolls to pop up

covid, take me please wrote:

This is torture.

Temporarily helping your kids obtain an education during a pandemic is torture?

macdaddy 1.0 wrote:

covid, take me please wrote:

This is torture.

Temporarily helping your kids obtain an education during a pandemic is torture?

Temporary? This was half of last year and it's going to be all of this year.

I think the teachers getting sick and the kids bringing disease upon their parents would be worse than distance learning that could enhance student's skills which would prepare them for remote work in the future which would cut down on traffic and vehicle emissions.

Sure, there are bad things from the distance learning but there are good things as well.

And so many things that could be worse than this.

You could simply complain over and over about it or try to extract something positive to learn from this unprecedented situation.

My kid's school has a fantastic and very robust online curriculum and the Zoom classes are really quite seamless at this point. Private school = Getting what you pay for. We miss sports but, I cannot complain about the academics at all.

huh what wrote:

macdaddy 1.0 wrote:

Temporarily helping your kids obtain an education during a pandemic is torture?

Temporary? This was half of last year and it's going to be all of this year.

Half a year? Check your math, boy. It was March 13th-Mayish (2 months) and September (3 weeks) for my local schools.

Either way, you might want to look up the definition for temporary, lolz.

shuffle shuffle wrote:

There is absolutely no way to know that--especially with something like COVID that seems to have chronic effects on the cardiovascular system.

For all we know, 20 years from now there will be a rash of people in their 30s experiencing valve failures because COVID destroyed their hearts when they didn't get sick enough to actually rest for a month while infected.

there are a lot of things we don't know how they'll impact us in 20-30 years but we do them anyways (foods we eat, lifestyle, etc.)

This sort of fringe risk is creating so much fear in society and its not good. Stop being so scared.

The people most frightened by this pandemic seem to be the COVID deniers and minimizers. This disease simply accelerated trends that were coming in the next decade anyway: remote work, remote schooling, more retail shifting to online, less fossil fuel powered mobility, and steps to reduce pollution in order to mitigate the effects of climate change.

The really scared people are the ones stuck in the past that cannot accept change or temporary inconvenience for the greater good.

There are definitely trade offs, but on the whole, virtual learning is getting the job done. My son is in 4th grade. They have about 2-3 hours where the entire class is together for lessons. Then, they spend another 1-2 hours in small groups of 3-5 kids with their teachers. The rest of the day is working independently.

The big pluses are that the teachers can mute students that are being disruptive and then circle back to them during small groups to make sure they are on track. And the small group time gives kids a lot more individual attention than they would normally get F2F. This means that the teachers are able to get through material much faster than they would F2F. That allows the kids to complete their schoolwork and homework during regular school hours.

The minuses are screen fatigue and no recess/PE/social interaction with other kids. My son freaked out trying to do a typing tutor program on the computer yesterday because he just had been on the computer for too long. We have a bubble of friends in the neighborhood that he can play with after school. But I know he misses being around a lot of kids.

Virtual school is really just another version of homeschooling. If the parents are involved, it works just fine. If parents are not involved, it is a challenge for younger kids.

tycobb wrote:

covid, take me please wrote:

This is torture.

My daughters getting sick would be worse. We did it for months and wasn't that big of deal. Way too easy for my younger daughter (2nd grade) but an active parent can make up for that. Kids got a little bored in the house most of the say but have to get creative. Although you just want people to agree with you so this is a waste of time.

May you and your kids never ever feel less than perfect on any given day by avoiding all situations at all cost. May you and your kids live a long and uneventful life by avoiding any actual life experiences. So when you do get and old and eventually die you can look back at how trivial it all was.

covid, take me please wrote:

This is torture.

What's the torture part for you?

I know parents want the kids out of the house and I agree that's good for them.

Are you running into IT issues, are you sharing the same space, do you have to change your schedule to be able to watch them from home?

There are so many different situations that people are in with this.

I know at young ages, childcare is a big deal.

Maybe you can be more specific about the torture you face.

I'm lucky. I have high schoolers that have their own room and things are fine.

This is a garbage take. You know what is worse than Trump supporters, liberals who say dumb sh!t like this and alienate people. I am not a covid denier, but because I see how the way we are handling this pandemic is not sustainable, is harming our kids etc... people like get automatically lumped in with "covididiot trump supporters".

OP, I agree. I have 2 boys one in middle school one in second grade both %100 distance learning, meanwhile my wife and I are both WFH. The distance learning for our youngest is a joke and the school district is handling this terribly. There is no help, no support, and if you complain 'oh your a trump supporter who wants grandma to die'.

imagine being semi-responsible for the education of your own child.

Oh btw, my mom had covid in early December and it made the rounds through our whole family. My mom was sick for about 3 months, the rest of us only had mild symptoms if any at all. The thing that confuses me is that people actually think you can somehow avoid ever getting it. Like you can somehow wait it out until a vaccine is available, yet as we test people we continually that the spread is far greater than we realized. So this danger of 20-30 years down the line having it do something to you, well hiding in your house is not going to prevent that from happening. I thought the point of the lockdown is to slow the spread, not prevent it entirely. Without the vaccine in sight, better get used to the idea you will most likely get it if you havent already, regardless of remote learning or not.

shuffle shuffle wrote:

There is absolutely no way to know that--especially with something like COVID that seems to have chronic effects on the cardiovascular system.

For all we know, 20 years from now there will be a rash of people in their 30s experiencing valve failures because COVID destroyed their hearts when they didn't get sick enough to actually rest for a month while infected.

That is a BS narrative created to drive fear with no evidence. Only a couple hundred people under 25 in the US have died of COVID. When you actually look at the individual deaths of kids due to COVID there are a lot that are hugely questionable whether they should have been counted as COVID.

The learn from home is garbage compared to in the classroom. It disproportionality impacts lower-income families. A lot of families can't afford the internet and devices for this learning.

Plus it lowers the productivity of adults. Another example of the selfishness of the upper class during COVID in expecting others to bear the negative impacts of these shutdowns.

Yes, imagine it. Imagine caring about your childs future while the school district pisses away your tax $$ on providing an incredibly half-assed approach to education. Meanwhile nearly every private school around is figuring out a way to actually deliver a quality education to their students.