Sir Mo falls short of British Record while Tommy Hughes strikes again with a 71:09 age 60+ WR!

I can tread water for days.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

I can tread water for days.

Your list of accomplishments is unending. You need to start a thread about yourself. Oh, wait - you already have.

And it continues. With help from my biggest supporter.

Again nobody debates that people get slower. The question is how much. We have a very good idea what the average person who doesn't train declines. What we don't have is a good idea of what people who train decline and what the outliers in that group look like. Seriously did you go to high school? Don't you understand the problem with using averages when talking about individuals? I thought this was all stuff everyone learned when doing basic probability.

Is 10% the best that people do? Nope. Which is why looking at small sample sizes and extrapoliting is just stupid. For example using your exact same logic Hosaka went from 2:31 at 42 to 2:36:30 at 60. or 3% over almost 2 decades. And since people don't really slow down til 35 or so is 8% over 25 years really that much of a stretch? Now that is a bit of a cheat since he ran faster later but even if you use his PR, you are still only looking at 7% over 15 years. Throw in 2 mins of shoe tech and does Hughes really look like an outlier to you? Nope.

The outlier part is that he can do the training and wants to do the training. But for all we know there are 100 2:14 guys who have tried this and he is the 1% that actually can do it. You can say the odds of him being that 1% guy is low and that is true. But you also only hear about the 1% guys who are the outliers.

Your arguments are wrong. First of all, all the age-group record holders are outliers - they are the best in the world. That is why we can see the progression of aging in their performances. We don't need to look at average athletes. There is nothing average about Shaheed yet you don't address how Hughes is able to maintain performance levels over decades that an outlier Shaheed can't get near.

Hughes is a further anomaly in that his hm performance age-graded is significantly better than the open wr. That makes him the equivalent of a Kipchoge in his age group. Do you buy that, in a runner whose best in his youth was 2 13? Is that a Kipchoge-class athlete?

You aren't going to be persuaded that Hughes' performances are difficult to explain. I won't try further. But one thing I would bet the house on is that you aren't talking from experience; you are nowhere near 60 and you don't know what the years inevitably bring.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

And it continues. With help from my biggest supporter.

C'mon, you can do better than that. That's a tiny boast, for you. Tell us how you also won the Presidential debate.

I'm always getting better, that's true. I'm not sure what a Presidential debate is. Clearly it's not a Gladiator thing or I would know.

Italian Suppository wrote:

I'm always getting better, that's true. I'm not sure what a Presidential debate is. Clearly it's not a Gladiator thing or I would know.

Requires verbal skills and skills in argument. So - no - you wouldn't know.

It's actually all about the physical. Likewise something you just speculate on.

You should try competing.

Stop making up ridiculous BS and get a life.

When you can't come up with any kind of counter-argument.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

It's actually all about the physical. Likewise something you just speculate on.

You should try competing.

I have to admire your competitive spirit. You keep trying - and failing. They don't come any dumber than your good self.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

It's actually all about the physical. Likewise something you just speculate on.

You should try competing.

I have to admire your competitive spirit. You keep trying - and failing. They don't come any dumber than your good self.

Or underachieving than you.

You have yet to make a point on here that anyone is buying. Except that you are weak and old compared to the top guys. We get that.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

I have to admire your competitive spirit. You keep trying - and failing. They don't come any dumber than your good self.

Or underachieving than you.

You have yet to make a point on here that anyone is buying. Except that you are weak and old compared to the top guys. We get that.

I'm not going to persuade guys like you of anything - that would require an intelligence you don't have. Your comments are empty bragging. With no proof of your supposed accomplishments I can believe that you're a short fat nobody dreaming you're some kind of stud. Sure, "Spartacus".

I have proof of your lack of accomplishments though. You are quite proud of them.

5 feet 11 inches and 170 pounds of pure man here.

5 feet 11 inches and 170 pounds of pure manure here.[/quote]

Fixed.

A shame you didn't make it to 6'0". But I guess you're tall enough for someone with a mental age of 12.

Dope Hardstrong wrote:

I have proof of your lack of accomplishments though. You are quite proud of them.

5 feet 11 inches and 170 pounds of pure man here.

5.11/170 are almost perfect dimensions for the average man as those stats show a person who is tall-ish but not too tall and slim-ish but not too thin. Almost perfect stats. In fact, those stats might belong to a world-class 800 m or 1500 m runner although it would be a little bit heavy for a 5K and above runner but still you have a few runners like Ben True, who have those body stats

Ben True, The Maine native New Hampshire transplant

Height/weight - 6.0/165 (when in training, during rest periods the weight goes up to 170 and 175)

800 Metres 1:50.07 Hanover, NH (USA) 12 MAY 2007 1024

1500 Metres 3:36.05 Somerville, MA (USA) 17 JUN 2016 1160

One Mile 3:57.83 Cork (IRL) 16 JUL 2018 1101

3000 Metres 7:35.53 Stade Charléty, Paris (FRA) 01 JUL 2017 1204

Two Miles 8:23.76 Hayward Field, Eugene, OR (USA) 25 MAY 2018 1130

5000 Metres 13:02.74 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 04 MAY 2014 1200

10,000 Metres 27:41.17 Palo Alto, CA (USA) 29 APR 2012 1161

5 Kilometres 13:20 Boston, MA (USA) 15 APR 2017 NR 1157

10 Kilometres 27:56 Cape Elizabeth, ME (USA) 05 AUG 2017 1148

10 Kilometres 27:51 * Cape Elizabeth, ME (USA) 02 AUG 2014 1143

15 Kilometres 43:04 Jacksonville, FL (USA) 15 MAR 2014 1127

10 Miles Road 46:48 St. Paul (USA) 02 OCT 2011 1104

Half Marathon 1:02:56 New York, NY (USA) 17 MAR 2019 1073

Half Marathon 1:02:39 * New York, NY (USA) 18 MAR 2018 1078

Legend

* Not legal.

Indoor

Discipline Performance Wind Venue Date Records Results Score

One Mile 3:57.31 Reggie Lewis Center, Boston, MA (USA) 28 JAN 2017 1165

3000 Metres 7:40.96 New York, NY (USA) 11 FEB 2017 1195

Two Miles 8:11.33 New York, NY (USA) 11 FEB 2017 1245

5000 Metres 13:06.74 Boston, MA (USA) 26 FEB 2017 1237

Legend

* Not legal.

Armstronglivs wrote:

5 feet 11 inches and 170 pounds of pure manure here.

Fixed.

A shame you didn't make it to 6'0". But I guess you're tall enough for someone with a mental age of 12.[/quote]

Never bothered me. I don't have short man syndrome.

Being called The Sh*t is a fantastic compliment.