Rural teams are about to ruin our state's XC season

Name the state? That way more attention can be drawn to the specific issues.

Tennessee.

Oklahoma has had a couple of weeks of meets and over 100 schools have had known cases. Likely over 200 but depends on your source. Schools here set their own policies at the school level, so some schools competing are online-only, others are mixed, but all can compete. Meets are still going, which makes sense.

Meets and meet time are such a small component of an athlete's time I doubt meets, even run with no special protocols, would be labeled a culprit. Time together with your own team puts the group at a higher risk of illness or quarantine but the idea that it will all trace back to a meet seems unlikely. A really ambitious tracing program might notify the coaches of other schools to watch their kids or notify families that a Covid positive runner was at a meet but hopefully common sense will prevail. I know it won't in many places but in rural TN it might.

I think the risk to competition is not increased by what your rural schools are doing. The Nashville gentry could run a perfect wave start, fully-masked, hand-sanitized meet and then get sick in aisle two of the Piggly Wiggly.

Good points. Nashville actually postponed two bigger meets today and us in Memphis are being careful with how we will run our meets.

Montanas in the same boat rn. Helena High already had their team shut down by a case and I can't imagine the same thing not happening in Billing and maybe Bozeman. The smaller school meets seem to be going well so far but when AA (mts largest classification) meets startup I can't imagine we won't see a spike. No spectators in most of the bigger counties tho so hopefully that'll do something. I feel like spectators are gonna play a huge role in whether we see huge spread as a result of meets or not. Is TN allowing spectators at meets?

Justuraverage16flatboy wrote:

Montanas in the same boat rn. Helena High already had their team shut down by a case and I can't imagine the same thing not happening in Billing and maybe Bozeman. The smaller school meets seem to be going well so far but when AA (mts largest classification) meets startup I can't imagine we won't see a spike. No spectators in most of the bigger counties tho so hopefully that'll do something. I feel like spectators are gonna play a huge role in whether we see huge spread as a result of meets or not. Is TN allowing spectators at meets?

We actually just had our school go online (private in Memphis) for 2 weeks for 4 or 5 cases, theoretically we go back in person next week. Our local public school district (which is a joke in so many ways and the reason I'm private) hasn't allowed any athletics (or had any sort of school for that matter) up until September 1. For the rest of the state, our state association basically said school districts are free to play or not play, and they'll hold state tournaments if people comply with Covid regulations. For spectators, some meets are having them and some aren't. There are spectator regulations for all sports set forth by the state association and at this point it's up to the meet directors.

Also update: we just had our state meet moved outside of its usual spot in Nashville, maybe to avoid the stricter gathering regulations.

Based on the research that I've seen, infection outdoors is extraordinarily rare. The virus is much more likely to spread in cars/vans/buses that are transporting teams to meet, particularly if a) the windows are closed (when cooling through air conditioning, for instance) and b) the occupants are maskless.

Yup, the leftists don’t like it when their “orders” are ignored. So they will likely try to shut you down ... got nothing to do with Covid. All about power and fear and politics.

How does all the condescension feel? Do you feel better now?

Bottom line, with cross country, you will be racing next to others and breathing on them. If "officials" find rural teams unsatisfactory, they won't give you much compassion either, no matter what "protocols' you follow.

Good for them. Stop being such a wuss.

Why don't you educate yourself (and others) on how a "case" means less than zero except to those who want to hold everyone hostage for a fraud.

The PCR test is flawed because it magnifies and reports the detection of viral debris as Covid 19 positive. Most of us have viral debris (from previous flu, common cold etc) lasting for months after each winter. The numbers of false positives greatly exaggerate the ‘pandemic’. Few self-respecting scientists would endorse the PCR test as a valid reliable test for SARS-CoV-2.

The test shows human DNA. One of the pieces of genetic material tested for by the 50% false positive, faulty, untested, unapproved, RT-PCR test is our own PRIMARY assembly for our chromosome 8. What this means is they are not finding a virus at all, they are just using a piece of our OWN DNA and telling us it is a virus. Time to take down this FAKE pandemic once and for all.

What we have is an epidemic of scientific illiteracy, mass psychoses and media hysteria .

Allen53 wrote:

The PCR test is flawed because it magnifies and reports the detection of viral debris as Covid 19 positive. Most of us have viral debris (from previous flu, common cold etc) lasting for months after each winter. The numbers of false positives greatly exaggerate the ‘pandemic’. Few self-respecting scientists would endorse the PCR test as a valid reliable test for SARS-CoV-2.

Just so that people know, this is beyond wrong. The PCR uses SARS-COV-2 specific primers so it does not detect random viruses. The PCR tests in diagnostic use are tested for sensitivity and specificity and certified by the FDA.

MooresLaw wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

The PCR test is flawed because it magnifies and reports the detection of viral debris as Covid 19 positive. Most of us have viral debris (from previous flu, common cold etc) lasting for months after each winter. The numbers of false positives greatly exaggerate the ‘pandemic’. Few self-respecting scientists would endorse the PCR test as a valid reliable test for SARS-CoV-2.

Just so that people know, this is beyond wrong. The PCR uses SARS-COV-2 specific primers so it does not detect random viruses. The PCR tests in diagnostic use are tested for sensitivity and specificity and certified by the FDA.

Oh really. Can you cite for me a single study that shows SARS-COV-2 has been isolated and purified.

BTW PCR is not a test it is a process.

MooresLaw wrote:

Allen53 wrote:

The PCR test is flawed because it magnifies and reports the detection of viral debris as Covid 19 positive. Most of us have viral debris (from previous flu, common cold etc) lasting for months after each winter. The numbers of false positives greatly exaggerate the ‘pandemic’. Few self-respecting scientists would endorse the PCR test as a valid reliable test for SARS-CoV-2.

Just so that people know, this is beyond wrong. The PCR uses SARS-COV-2 specific primers so it does not detect random viruses. The PCR tests in diagnostic use are tested for sensitivity and specificity and certified by the FDA.

Even the "mighty" official paper of record calls out the PCR tests as bogus just as they did in 2007 if you remember what happened at Dartmouth. Maybe you don't do history.

Allen53 wrote:

Even the "mighty" official paper of record calls out the PCR tests as bogus just as they did in 2007 if you remember what happened at Dartmouth. Maybe you don't do history.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

I am not sure how anyone would conclude the above article calls out the PCR tests as bogus. All it says is that the number of cycles being run to identify positive cases may indicate patients that have such a low viral load at that point as to be non-contagious but they could be very contagious days later. The article is basically saying we need a real national strategy for testing regarding the number of cycles and need better testing. There are issues with both the PCR tests and the faster, lower cost antigen tests. See the below article.

I wanna run this season wrote:

What should/can I do, if anything? .

You should protest by sitting out the season, take your lead from the NBA.

Once again, I don't care about the science behind it or the true severity of the virus. There are rules set up, and I'm trying my best to comply and have a season. There's nothing I can do that would change or affirm worldwide opinion on the virus. I'm just trying to make sure I've done everything in my power to let us race. I've worked too hard to watch my senior season slip away because a few people think their "right to not wear masks" is being violated.

Good news: you can do something. You can do your part by wearing a mask during the entirery of your next race. Even if your season is cancelled, you can still do your part by wearing a mask all the time and staying home so that maybe youll have the slightest hope of running next year in the fall XC season.