Is The Bourne Identity still the best action/suspense movie ever?

elephino wrote:

I loved the books, but I also loved the movies. Different things.

After the first movie, they didn't even try to relate the movies to the books. Watching the 2nd (?) movie I remember thinking his wife didn't really die because the whole 3rd book is about her and their kids.

Unrelated to the books, but still really cool movies.

I did not read all 13 of the Bourne books. Ludlum was a much better writer before he died.

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What books did he write after he died?

Sucks that you can’t appreciate the nice subtlety of that guy’s post.

old guy 74 wrote:

I did not read all 13 of the Bourne books. Ludlum was a much better writer before he died.

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What books did he write after he died?

Ten new novels with him as author came out after he died. I read a couple that were supposedly manuscripts he had almost finished and then someone finished editing them after he died. But I remember reading a page several times because I couldn't follow what was happening. That never happened with Ludlum. And there were a couple asides where the author was trying to show how cool they were, which again never happened with the living Ludlum. While he was alive he was 100% efficient in moving the story. He wasn't as good after he died.

Twelve Bourne books came out after Ludlum died (I undercounted previously), but they did have Eric Van Lustbader listed as the author.

Last of the Mohicans with Daniel Day-Lewis and Wes Studi is a great action suspense film, even if it is set in the 18th century.

elephino wrote:

I did not read all 13 of the Bourne books. Ludlum was a much better writer before he died.

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old guy 74 wrote:

What books did he write after he died?

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elephino wrote:

Ten new novels with him as author came out after he died. I read a couple that were supposedly manuscripts he had almost finished and then someone finished editing them after he died. But I remember reading a page several times because I couldn't follow what was happening. That never happened with Ludlum. And there were a couple asides where the author was trying to show how cool they were, which again never happened with the living Ludlum. While he was alive he was 100% efficient in moving the story. He wasn't as good after he died.

Twelve Bourne books came out after Ludlum died (I undercounted previously), but they did have Eric Van Lustbader listed as the author.

Oh. Never mind.

mr man here regular guy wrote:

It's still putting movies to shame. I say yes.

It never was. /Spiderman

old phart wrote:

I like all the Bourne movies because they are believable. Not only that, but the subtext is that, no matter how hard you try, you can't turn a person into a robot/killing machine without some serious side effects. That is the human side of Jason Bourne, or anyone else.

For the record, in that scene where Jason Bourne falls about five floors and lands on a fat person, it is possible to survive an impulse experienced by coming to rest over over an 18 inch distance when falling from 5 stories. It is on the outer fringes of survivability, but none the less, is survivable. That is what I like about the Bourne movies. They are believable.

I also like the subtext that man cannot be turned into a robot.

No way. C-Span III: the movie is way more thrilling.

I have liked all of the Bourne movies. They are almost up there with the James Bond movies. Well, almost.

The Day of the Jackal (1973) is a better movie than the Bourne Identity franchize...

Matt Damon is a good actor and he worked hard for the role of Bourne, however, he is still not believable in the role of a spy. His face is too cute, too sweet. Edward Fox made the perfect spy in 'The Day of the Jackal'. I felt Damon was miscast.