Brie Oakley Shares her Story

paul72 wrote:

lt man wrote:

has anyone yet mentioned the dozens of really fast girls that went to Cal only to get worse? Seems to be a trend.

damn-what happened to Bethan Knights---top 3 at Pac 10 Cross as a frosh in 2014 after winning Brooks PR in 9:54 that year---I don't even think she completed her track eligibility due to injuries?

Bethan Knights had a pretty good college career. However, that maybe the exception and not the norm at Cal.

YMMV wrote:

High-carb "runner's diet" derails hormones around and after puberty. This takes a bigger toll on the girls than the boys.

what do you mean?

d1runnergirlpwr5 wrote:

YMMV wrote:

High-carb "runner's diet" derails hormones around and after puberty. This takes a bigger toll on the girls than the boys.

what do you mean?

Don't get him started

"Same old story, same old song, and dance my friend."

Rolling Stones

There are young women committing suicides because of the pressures of changing to collegiate running. It's a sad thing to hear of an 18-year-old beauty with a 4.0 GPA and state high school championships in three sports jump off a bridge to her death.

Few take mental health seriously.

waltertompatton wrote:

"Same old story, same old song, and dance my friend."

Rolling Stones

There are young women committing suicides because of the pressures of changing to collegiate running. It's a sad thing to hear of an 18-year-old beauty with a 4.0 GPA and state high school championships in three sports jump off a bridge to her death.

Few take mental health seriously.

It's related to drugs, pre-marital sex, and few going to church anymore.

Notice at the end of the interview she did not give a shout out to any of her coaches...Humm....

midpackgirl wrote:

paul72 wrote:

damn-what happened to Bethan Knights---top 3 at Pac 10 Cross as a frosh in 2014 after winning Brooks PR in 9:54 that year---I don't even think she completed her track eligibility due to injuries?

https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/4983241/California_CA/Bethan_Knights.html

Bethan Knights had a pretty good college career. However, that maybe the exception and not the norm at Cal.

Well she ran 9:53 in the two mile in high school, which is about 9:09 in the 3k. In college she only ran 9:07 in the 3k. Improving by 2 seconds isn't impressive.

waltertompatton wrote:

"Same old story, same old song, and dance my friend."

Rolling Stones

There are young women committing suicides because of the pressures of changing to collegiate running. It's a sad thing to hear of an 18-year-old beauty with a 4.0 GPA and state high school championships in three sports jump off a bridge to her death.

Few take mental health seriously.

Calling them a beauty undermines as well.

waltertompatton wrote:

"Same old story, same old song, and dance my friend."

Rolling Stones

There are young women committing suicides because of the pressures of changing to collegiate running. It's a sad thing to hear of an 18-year-old beauty with a 4.0 GPA and state high school championships in three sports jump off a bridge to her death.

Few take mental health seriously.

I think that's Aerosmith.

What an awesome video. All of her points show lessons hard earned. Self-care. Balance in life. Not placing your self worth on something outside of you like running or on the opinions of others. Being strong mentally. Being honest and true to yourself.

Brie, thank you for sharing your journey with us. You are building up a stronger foundation from the bottom up, on inner strength that will always be there for you, instead of on external accomplishments which come and go and will never be satisfying.

lt man wrote:

has anyone yet mentioned the dozens of really fast girls that went to Cal only to get worse? Seems to be a trend.

possibly because athletes who compete for Cal have an extremely challenging academic commitment. The balance between academics and athletics is a difficult one to achieve, not for lack of trying. Most of the runners who choose Cal realize that they may have more athletic success at a school that puts less emphasis on academics, that way athletes are able to prioritize training and recovery. I think it's admirable that they have chosen to compete against the odds

Cal , Marshawn Lynch , really?

Yep. Cal is of course a world class university, but it's pretty easy for athletes to skate through if they want. Brie is majoring in "conservation and resource studies" and looks to be on a 5 year undergrad plan. All respect to her, but this is not exactly CS or engineering at Cal.

hcjhj wrote:

Cal , Marshawn Lynch , really?

The Floyd wrote:

Yep. Cal is of course a world class university, but it's pretty easy for athletes to skate through if they want. Brie is majoring in "conservation and resource studies" and looks to be on a 5 year undergrad plan. All respect to her, but this is not exactly CS or engineering at Cal.

hcjhj wrote:

Cal , Marshawn Lynch , really?

Conservation and resources is a fairly challenging field of study. You need good quantitative and analytical skills with statistics and population ecology, and genetics. Students must also be versed in policy and communications. It's a challenging major and Cal Berkeley has one of the better programs in the country.

And what was your field of study Floyd? Care to share your GRE scores or percentiles? What's your 5K PR, and best in the past 5 years?

waltertompatton wrote:

waltertompatton wrote:

"Same old story, same old song, and dance my friend."

Rolling Stones

There are young women committing suicides because of the pressures of changing to collegiate running. It's a sad thing to hear of an 18-year-old beauty with a 4.0 GPA and state high school championships in three sports jump off a bridge to her death.

Few take mental health seriously.

It's related to drugs, pre-marital sex, and few going to church anymore.

You seem to be confusing 2 different cases. Madison Holleran was a three sport star in high school, but a state champion in only the 800m. She jumped off the top of a parking garage, not a bridge. It is speculated that part of her depression was caused by not getting a 4.0 gpa in her first semester at Penn.

The then Collegiate record holder, Kathy Ormsby, left the track with 4 laps to go in the NCAA 10k, ran to a bridge and jumped off. She ended up paralyzed from the waist down.

No allegation in either case about drugs, premarital sex, or lack of religion.