5-year-old shot and killed while playing in front yard

Don't worry, the kids are starting to understand there are consequences to actions and that will be a good thing in the long run.

Dang over half a million dollars his go fund me page set up by the parents/grandma

https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-cannon

Stats don't lie wrote:

Well considering blacks murder whites at a rate roughly 12X that which whites murder blacks (on a per capita basis), events like this should not be surprising. Blacks commit violence against whites at a rate roughly 34X that of whites on blacks (again, on a per capita basis). In Chicago, blacks shoot people at a rate 70X that of whites.

"Non-fatal gunshot victims in Chicago had an overall rate of occurrence of 46.5 per 100,000 from 2006-2012, with a demographic breakdown of 1.62 per 100,000 for whites; 28.72 for Hispanics, and 112.83 for blacks.[31] It is estimated that the medical expenses associated with gun violence costs the city of Chicago $2.5 billion a year.[32][33]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago#Murder_and_shootings

$2.5 billion per year JUST IN CHICAGO. The US is already paying reparations, folks.

You don’t seem to understand statistics. What would be the expected “rate of white on black crime vs black on white crime, per capita,” with random distribution?

What would you expect the black on black crime rate to be per capita? I don't think you would know a statistic if you saw it.

Why ask him that question? Just tell him what you think the expected rate of white on black crime vs. black on white crime is, per capita, with a random distribution. That way you come off like you actually know something.

Why don't you tell me the rate of black on black crime, of course with a random distribution, Mr. Statistics?

messi wrote:

rojo wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And we have a post that should end this thread. If only I had seen this< I could have locked the thread. Now I'm going to wade through 5 pages but I wanted to give you a virtual kudos for an AMAZING post.

What is annoying is the amount of black on white crime and NONE of it prosecuted as hate crime.

Name one.

the fact that you refer to it as 'annoying' really illustrates the scale of the problem.

is there any evidence whatsoever that this was a hate crime?

messi wrote:

rojo wrote:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And we have a post that should end this thread. If only I had seen this< I could have locked the thread. Now I'm going to wade through 5 pages but I wanted to give you a virtual kudos for an AMAZING post.

What is annoying is the amount of black on white crime and NONE of it prosecuted as hate crime.

Name one.

You all don't get it.

It's simple.

There has to be clear evidence of race being a factor in the crime for it to be hate crime, Just because the victim is white and the criminal is black does not make it a hate crime, For that, there would need to be clear evidence for that. For example, a black thief is desperate for money. They do not give a damn who they steal from. So, because he happens to come upon a white victim, it is a hate crime, GTFOOH. I don't have to say this but when a criminal, white or black, is desperate, they don't care what your color is, white or black. And by the way, for particular categories of crime, in an open and free society, where you are the minority I think you'll have more chance to come upon victims who are not the minority.

Now, you have white on black crime where many times, after investigation, it is made clear that race was a determining factor for the criminal's motivation in committing that particular crime on the victim. Facts. Usually, a deeply derogatory racial slur or the criminal's background is evidence of this.

So stop all this sudden b!tching about crimes where the criminal is black and victim is white where race was clearly not a motivating factor. All peoples, peoples, backgrounds, ethnicities have a right to have their individuals commit crimes without it being leveraged in some way to infer something else, project something, add to a narrative or perpetuate a stereotype.

And none of them was shot by the police. Wait - wrong color...

rojo wrote:

gjkktn wrote:

White people finding examples of black on white crime then b**ching about how it doesn't get any attention in the media is becoming equally annoying as black people targetting white on black crime then saying it's because of racism. Not EVERYTHING needs to be about racism

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And we have a post that should end this thread. If only I had seen this< I could have locked the thread. Now I'm going to wade through 5 pages but I wanted to give you a virtual kudos for an AMAZING post.

So you see no difference between the Floyd killing by police officers and the murder of a 5 year old by a likely mentally disturbed member of the public? The issues in those cases are utterly different, and call for a different response. To liken them as simply being examples of the same thing is glib and indeed a false equivalence. It also overlooks the statistics that show that black people are 2-3 times more likely to be victims of police homicides than whites, as well as the disproportionate focus of police apprehensions - all of which has produced an upwelling of anger in the black community seen through weeks of protests that exceed anything since the unrest of '68. To imply that that nationwide anger is the result of a misplaced or biassed media focus is to patronize blacks as being little more than media dupes, as well as showing how extraordinarily out of touch you are with the concerns of that community. Yes - crime can be found in all communities - and not everything is about racism - but that isn't the claim. It is that racism exists and continues to manifest itself systemically and in police brutality in particular. It is not an argument to disregard crime if it is committed by blacks. To not grasp that is to have your head thoroughly in the sand.

Smith & Wesson wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

So you are equating the murder of a 5 year old by a member of the public to the killing of a 12 year old by Police. Yes - the police were murderers. But that isn't supposed to be part of their job description. Makes it a little more newsworthy, don't you think?

No! Just pointing very minimal coverage on another horrific case that would have been much different if the races were reversed.

No, it wouldn't - unless the killing were believed to be racially-motivated. The parents of the victim have said they don't think race was a factor in their child's death.

There are thousands of homicides every year in the US - many of them horrific. But they will not all be given prominence in the media - and isn't race that will determine that unless it is seen as a cause of the killing.

TheKidsUnderstand5012 wrote:

What would you expect the black on black crime rate to be per capita? I don't think you would know a statistic if you saw it.

Incorrect.

Rebulphitudinal wrote:

yawntown wrote:

You don’t seem to understand statistics. What would be the expected “rate of white on black crime vs black on white crime, per capita,” with random distribution?

Why ask him that question? Just tell him what you think the expected rate of white on black crime vs. black on white crime is, per capita, with a random distribution. That way you come off like you actually know something.

Incorrect.

rojo wrote:

gjkktn wrote:

White people finding examples of black on white crime then b**ching about how it doesn't get any attention in the media is becoming equally annoying as black people targetting white on black crime then saying it's because of racism. Not EVERYTHING needs to be about racism

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^And we have a post that should end this thread. If only I had seen this< I could have locked the thread. Now I'm going to wade through 5 pages but I wanted to give you a virtual kudos for an AMAZING post.

I’m sure it was just oversight that you conveniently missed the post bemoaning desegregation.

yawntown wrote:

Rebulphitudinal wrote:

Why ask him that question? Just tell him what you think the expected rate of white on black crime vs. black on white crime is, per capita, with a random distribution. That way you come off like you actually know something.

Incorrect.

There's nothing incorrect about it. I challenged you to provide an opinion and analysis about something you were suggesting you know something about - "the expected “rate of white on black crime vs black on white crime, per capita,” with random distribution."

You didn't respond with anything of substance. Everyone reading this is likely now thinking that guy yawntown doesn't appear to know anything about "the expected “rate of white on black crime vs black on white crime, per capita,” with random distribution," despite the fact that he criticized someone else about that same thing.

Rebulphitudinal wrote:

yawntown wrote:

Incorrect.

There's nothing incorrect about it. I challenged you to provide an opinion and analysis about something you were suggesting you know something about - "the expected “rate of white on black crime vs black on white crime, per capita,” with random distribution."

You didn't respond with anything of substance. Everyone reading this is likely now thinking that guy yawntown doesn't appear to know anything about "the expected “rate of white on black crime vs black on white crime, per capita,” with random distribution," despite the fact that he criticized someone else about that same thing.

It’s very simple - I posed a question to the stats fella to show that he doesn’t know the answer and is presenting figures out of context. You attack me because you don’t like me poking holes in his argument. What about that is inaccurate?

and none of them pointed their guns at anyone, resisted arrest, or shot at the police

I see plenty of differences but the main one is the Floyd case has world in a tizzy because the media DID NOT share the facts of the case and now what's the death total 30+ and are we at

what a billion in property damage? Had George Floyd been a white druggie would his story have even made the news? Would there have been any protests? Rioting or Looting? Defunding of the police? To not grasp that is to have your head thoroughly in the sand.

and none of them pointed their guns at anyone, resisted arrest, or shot at the police[/quote]

You forgot the McLoskeys, who have been charged for pointing guns at people. But you are more likely to be shot by police if you are 12 years old. And black.