Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1289975186909884417?s=20
Democrat media screams that coronavirus is surging.
It’s not.
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1289975186909884417?s=20
we have xc practice like normal here
I'm not prepared to wear a mask for my lifetime
stop driving, it isn't that hard, you will save lives
There is no reason to even argue about this because it will never happen. There are a substantial majority of people out there who do not want to risk their health just so they can go to a bar or sit in an office doing a job that they can do from home. This is why the virus has been spreading so disproportionately in low income minority communities. They have no choice but to go to work and get exposed to the virus because they are working at the grocery store, warehouse, health care, etc. where they have no choice but to risk exposure. They are getting pummeled by the virus.
Also, the risk of a massive outbreak many times what we are seeing now is floated as a price to pay for heard immunity. But we do not yet know whether immunity to COVID 19 lasts. So far, it looks like immunity lasts about 4-5 months, which is on par for common cold corona viruses.
That raises the prospect of wave after wave of massive COVID 19 outbreaks as immunity wanes and a new outbreak sets in.
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Everyone needs to realize that there's a new sheriff in town. It's no longer just heart disease and cancer that kills us, it's Coronavirus, and it's not going away.
We better get a vaccine that works, and keeps up with this, or winters are going to be a horror show from here on out.
That said, to address the OP question, if we just continued as before from this point on, it would soon be a Lord of the Flies deal worldwide. Everyone over 65 would die off sooner than they would otherwise, then the oldest people you'd see around would be in their 40s, then 30s, then 20s. Inside of 10 years, life expectancy would look something like 24.
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This is Jim Kiler wrote:
That said, to address the OP question, if we just continued as before from this point on, it would soon be a Lord of the Flies deal worldwide. Everyone over 65 would die off sooner than they would otherwise, then the oldest people you'd see around would be in their 40s, then 30s, then 20s. Inside of 10 years, life expectancy would look something like 24.
I was also going to mention that any hope of seeing some sort of normal economic activity during a massive outbreak would be a foolish assumption. I am in Houston where we are having about as bad an outbreak as you can have while bars are closed and people are mostly wearing masks. I tried to bring my car in for service at the local dealer (it is a 2020 and still under the free service plan). Over half of their techs were out due to the virus and they were not taking any new service appointments, only emergency repairs. Even if you can keep people from getting seriously ill or dying, you still have the problem of a virus with a R0 of 2-3 spreading rapidly and sending everyone home sick.
Let's tell people what this is really all about wrote:
dadsfadsfdasfdsafdas wrote:
So far COVID has killed more people over the first 6 months than the spanish flu did. As an expert in the matter, I am sure you are well aware of that. Why aren't you doing an apples to apples comparison?
You're not putting this into context. The Spanish flu ended up killing 675,000 with a population of only 108 million back in 1918. To date, there are 155,000 deaths, and yes that number will continue to increase, but the U.S. has a population of 328 million - 3 times the number from 1918. The death rate is going down with coronavirus not up. Is your assumption that it's eventually going to catch the Spanish flu? Can you really predict that with the deaths going down?
Since you are a bit slow let me give you the context. Over the first 6 months of the spanish flu the estimates were 20-40k deaths. I.E. less than covid on a population basis but a still really bad flu season. And the death rate was almost zero by July. Comparing the results of something that is finalized to something that is still ongoing (are we 10%, 25%, 50% or 75% the way through) is just stupid. See the idiots who back in March said only 10 people were dead so what is the big deal.
And again so you are saying anything that isn't the worse ever is OK? You are happy killing say 1 million people as long as 75% are over 65? You are free to those opinions. Most people aren't going to agree.
Let's tell people what this is really all about wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
So unless it takes as many as the Spanish flu or the bubonic plague it doesn't count. More and more of your fellow Americans are dying daily and to you it's all a leftist conspiracy. If it doesn't directly affect you it doesn't exist. Give it time. You're one of the reasons the virus is out of control.
The Spanish flu statistics were used to put the coronavirus into context. The Spainsh flu killed at last 50 MILLION people globally when the population was only 1.8 BILLION. To date the coronavirus has claimed 694,000 globally against a population of 7.8 BILLION. You can't say with a straight face that this is a pandemic. World governments & W.H.O. want to call it a pandemic for more power, control & behavior modification of people.
And your last statement is nothing but more fearmongering and more or less an insult. You're obviously incapable of discussing this logically & realistically so you resort to childish remarks - typical of the Leftist Radicals.
One thing worth noting is that 40% of the cases are asymptomatic, and 40% of the U.S. deaths involved nursing home residents.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/40-of-people-with-covid-19-don-t-have-symptoms-latest-cdc-estimate-says/amphttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/16/nursing-homes-account-for-over-40-of-us-coronavirus-deaths/amp/If this virus was so bad and apocalyptic as the Left makes it out to be, you wouldn't have "40%" of the infected asymptomatic - that's ridiculous. Two things are at play here: 1) This coronavirus is nothing more than a bad cold virus and poses little threat to healthy people (and the elderly can die of bad cold viruses) or 2) The PCR test is spitting out an extraordinarily high number of false positives rendering the test as completely unreliable. If that's the case, then testing should be stopped immediately.
And nursing residents are very ill people. The have multiple preexisting conditions, they're on multiple toxic drugs, they're in and out of hospitals, their bodies are failing, etc. It shouldn't be such "shock & awe" that this group of people with inefficient immune systems would succumb to viral infections of any kind.
Either way, the high rate of so-called Covid infections is what the Left is using as part of the fearmongering campaign. And the more cases that are found, governors can exert more power, control & behavior modification.
After all, the Left wants to reclaim the WH and they're in the homestretch toward the election, so the fearmongering will get even worse.
It is a pandemic because the disease is worldwide, not because the statistics are the same as the Spanish flu. It is nothing like the common cold - for which we have an immunity - and despite the measures to suppress the virus over 150,000 Americans have died in 5 months. It has struck far wider than in the rest homes. Currently, over a 1000 Americans are dying daily and it is now being officially forecast that the toll will be 300,000 by the end of the year. We have no immunity to it and no cure. And people like you think it a hoax and that masks are an affront to your personal freedom. The virus has brought out another kind of sickness in American culture and you and your fellow conspiracy theorists are an example of it.
Precious Roy wrote:
There are a substantial majority of people out there who do not want to risk their health just so they can go to a bar or sit in an office doing a job that they can do from home. This is why the virus has been spreading so disproportionately in low income minority communities. They have no choice but to go to work and get exposed to the virus
You, beyond any doubt, are a self-righteous middle class liberal savior, exploiting the working class for political gain. Despicable.
Who are you again? ^
Bad Wigins wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
There are a substantial majority of people out there who do not want to risk their health just so they can go to a bar or sit in an office doing a job that they can do from home. This is why the virus has been spreading so disproportionately in low income minority communities. They have no choice but to go to work and get exposed to the virus
You, beyond any doubt, are a self-righteous middle class liberal savior, exploiting the working class for political gain. Despicable.
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Armstronglivs wrote:
It is a pandemic because the disease is worldwide
Actually, it's a pandemic only because the false reporting and fake news are worldwide.
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The disease is nothing, and has caused no fatalities because it doesn't exist.
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Check out this video (starting at 40 seconds) which evaluates whether Koch's postulates were adhered to.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/Precious Roy wrote:
This is why the virus has been spreading
The non existent virus has only been spreading by fake news and false reporting like yours.
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Are you invested in vaccination companies?
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
if we just continued as before from this point on.... everyone over 65 would die off sooner than they would otherwise.
That' s more false reporting and fake news.
I'm in that demographic and I NEVER wear a mask when I go out in public.
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Yet, I'm the healthiest person that I know, much healthier than the younger people who I see wearing masks.
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NO stores are preventing me from shopping for not wearing a mask.
dunes runner wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
This is why the virus has been spreading
The non existent virus has only been spreading by fake news and false reporting like yours.
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Are you invested in vaccination companies?
Just curious, do you think the 2018 Pandemic was also a hoax, and no one really died from the flu that year?
basic5 wrote:
Just curious, do you think the 2018 Pandemic was also a hoax, and no one really died from the flu that year?
If you meant 1918 when 50 million people were killed by vaccinations, then yes, the story that they died from a virus was misleading and not truth. In fact, in the 1920s everyone knew that it was the vaccinations that were killing everyone. Since then the drug companies have been busy trying to bury the truth and the murders they caused, just like they continue to do now.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/99ZX4vva3of0/Bad Wigins wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
There are a substantial majority of people out there who do not want to risk their health just so they can go to a bar or sit in an office doing a job that they can do from home. This is why the virus has been spreading so disproportionately in low income minority communities. They have no choice but to go to work and get exposed to the virus
You, beyond any doubt, are a self-righteous middle class liberal savior, exploiting the working class for political gain. Despicable.
Remember when you said you were the best debater on Letsrun? ?
I care think and you do too wrote:
Many people would die and the long term impact would cripple generations physically and psychologically. The mortality rate is based on what happens when measures are taken to restrict the spread.
We still don’t know why it kills some people and not others. We also don’t know for certain that there aren’t long term negative effects on asymptomatic carriers. It looks like there actually might be.
Lockdowns are just a short term measure and will be nothing but a memory soon enough. But more people will be around to remember.
If we did nothing it would be bad. Very bad...
Hospitals would be overrun, resulting in many other illnesses and injuries being fatal which would probably not have been.
Doctors, nurses, paramedics, all emergency services would be compromised as they start to lose staff to illness and effectively spread it to vulnerable populations. This would also undermine the trust in emergency services and people would die because they are too scared to call for help.
With the schools open children would become infected in numbers not previously seen resulting in far more deaths of children. Many would be orphaned temporarily or permanently as parents succumb to infection by asymptomatic carriers.
The survivors would suffer from any of a number of lifelong complications reducing the fit and healthy workforce in the decades to begin.
If an effective vaccine is not developed and distributed it is possible that herd immunity would never occur. We still don’t know for certain.
Eventually something even worse than COVID will come along. This is a chance to learn how to handle things properly. This is pretty bad, but is still just a dress rehearsal.
....yes. Nothing else needs to be said.
dunes runner wrote:
This is Jim Kiler wrote:
if we just continued as before from this point on.... everyone over 65 would die off sooner than they would otherwise.
That' s more false reporting and fake news.
I'm in that demographic and I NEVER wear a mask when I go out in public.
.
Yet, I'm the healthiest person that I know, much healthier than the younger people who I see wearing masks.
.
NO stores are preventing me from shopping for not wearing a mask.
What do you do when you fly on a plane?
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