Can you wear Next%s, AlphaFlys on the track?

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  • Pop Tarts

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 07/30/2020 4:08pm EDT
    re: half tights

    half tights wrote:

    Pop Tarts wrote:

    I put more stock in it than your guess.

    It's not a "guess" to know that running on a treadmill with spikes is nothing like running on an elite track with spikes.

    You only read the abstract. They also did testing on a 300 m indoor track. Here is a summary of that part that I found:

    The researchers also examined the differences in the spikes and Vaporfly’s using a 300m indoor track. “Nine of the participants (four male, five female) in this study had competed in 3K or 5K races in their own racing shoes (spikes for all nine aforementioned participants) before participating in this study, and then again over the same respective distance in NVF shoes.” In their sub-sample of nine runners, when wearing the Vaporfly’s the runners improved by 1.9 per cent over their respective performances in their own spikes.

    https://runningmagazine.ca/sections/gear/the-nike-vaporfly-4-could-be-your-next-track-spike/

  • Pop Tarts

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 07/30/2020 4:14pm EDT
    re: Pop Tarts

    That 1.90% is improvement in times, not just efficiency. That's 16 seconds at 14:00 pace.

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2367961/how-do-nikes-vaporfly-4-shoes-actually-work#close

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    Slartibartfast

    Member since 08/23/2018.

    169 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    3 years ago 07/30/2020 9:42pm EDT
    re: Endorphiner

    So I think the real question here is whether NCAA aligns to World Athletics rules. I’m not familiar enough to know, but that’ll answer what US collegiates can wear.

    Also, I’m trying to decide if it’s worth worrying about the fact that high schools will DEFINITELY not align to these rules, since it would rule out all the kids who join track teams but run in trainers because they can’t afford spikes. I mean, there’s always been a gap between HS, NCAA and/or WA rules, but never with respect to footwear. I guess it’s not a problem, but it’s real weird that high schoolers may be allowed to wear shoes that the pros can’t.

  • codaayyee

    Member since 06/20/2017.

    350 posts. Last post 3 months ago.
    3 years ago 07/31/2020 9:32am EDT
    re: Endorphiner

    You can wear any shoes, as long as they have no spikes. For spiked bottoms, there are now stack height parameters.

    I think it is ridiculous.

    These rules are a result of uneducated and unaware libtards that run the sport.

    A rising tide raises all boats.

    Nike clearly came up with a product that will make athletes run faster for all distances (the full length, spoon-shaped carbon plate, coupled with a lightweight/soft foam) back in 2017, and that is fine.

    Times will be faster.

    Just as times were faster when we shifted away from leather shoes or cinder tracks.

    We need to stop being so purist and fearful of innovation.

    If someone ran a mile in jeans, and someone ran a mile in split shorts, we wouldn't put an asterisk next to the latter. This is because everyone who wants to be competitive wears split shorts.

    Now, athletes are seeing that in order to be competitive, they need to run in shoes that have full-length plates, or some other variation.

    Plates aren't new to running shoes. In 2017, Nike simply packaged the technology better than their competitors.

    All companies, not just Nike, have been innovating BECAUSE of Nike's Vaporfly. It literally has caused a massive wave of innovation.

  • Another giver of +1

    Anonymous Poster

    3 years ago 07/31/2020 8:23pm EDT
    re: codaayyee

    No, you can't wear any shoes. Shoes used on the track with spikes or without, for 800m and up, 25mm maximum thickness. Under 800m races, 20mm.

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    weberh

    Member since 08/10/2020.

    1 post. Last post 3 years ago.
    3 years ago 08/10/2020 3:21pm EDT
    re: Another giver of +1

    "The amended rule, which puts a sole height limit of 25mm on all shoes worn in track events of 800m and above in distance (including Steeplechase), came into force on 28 July 2020, when it was published.

    The rule does not prevent a road running shoe from being worn on the track but a 30mm or 40mm road running shoe cannot be worn for track events because of the 25mm limit."

    https://www.worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/clarification-to-new-shoe-rule

    https://www.worldathletics.org/news/press-releases/shoe-technology-rules-tokyo-qualification-roa

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