Exactly. This is why cycling analogies are no good either. All that matters is how your time compares to others on the same day. Outside of a few niche events, no one remembers anyone’s times, just their places.
The swimming/shark suit comparison seems nearly perfect.
Seaward is unsponsored and can wear whatever shoe he wants. Full time teacher and a 2:10 marathoner. Pretty cool dude.
Seaward doesn’t have a shoe contracted, doesn’t get any form of running funding and is a full time vice principal. Heard him on a podcast last week, seems like a great guy. He didn’t seem to be complaining in the article or on the podcast. Scullion, Pollock both full time professional athletes with contracts. Should only wear the brand who pay them! I think that is Nike for Pollock. Scullion just complains at everything .
Pollock is contracted with NN which is a bit different to being contracted directly with Nike. He probably gets no direct funding from Nike but must wear there kit. I think he also still works part or full time as a doctor. Scully also does some remote work as a web developer.
Out of interest. Does anyone know what UA shoes Scully wore in Doha? UA seem to be a few years behind the times when it comes to racing flats. I don't blame Scully for wearing Vaporflys in Houston/Dublin tbh.
Scullion wasn't wearing Nike shoes. Well done for fact checking yourself before posting.
^this was to 'Cryingintomypodcast'
CommonSense1 wrote:
Scullion wasn't wearing Nike shoes. Well done for fact checking yourself before posting.
He wears blacked out Next%. There are pictures of him wearing them for Dublin 2019, Houston 2020 and a road 10k last week.
Scullion wore a prototype in Doha. UA attempted to make a carbon shoe. If you are contracted by a brand you should have the decency to wear their shoes and if not the integrity to return the dollars and not paint your shoes! As far as I know pollock is Nike. He is a qualified doctor but doesn’t work . Always seems to be on training camps.
You mentioned fact checking 'CommonSense1'??? Try some of your own.
Irish fan, you seem to know a lot about the Irish Marathon scene. Presuming Scully is first on the plane to Tokyo because of his national champs win in Dublin, do you think anyone will edge ahead of Pollock or Seaward if Marathons go ahead next year.
Does anyone find it ironic that his name is Seaward when he is a runner and not a swimmer?
I have consulted the Irish selection policy document. There is no mention of national title so I wouldn’t presume that at all. Given athletics Ireland’s embrace with the courts in 2016, they won’t steer too far away from the policy. Scullion can’t / won’t be the first ‘on the plane’. He would currently be 3rd.
Nor would I suggest Seaward or Pollock will be on the plane either. I think the claw has a chance and there are 4 or 5 others that could run close.
I'd be surprised if it was anyone other than those 3 on the plane, but I do like that there's a few guys just on the outside.
In fact, I'd go so far as to say Irish marathoning is as strong as British at the moment? Of course we have no one of Mo or C.Hawkins standard, but the amount of sub 2.18 guys.
One guy id love to see have a race come together is Eoghan Totten.
After that, I'd say Hugh Armstrong has the strongest outside chance ahead of the claw.
Any thoughts as to how Sean Tobin would have faired? I remember seeing him on the start list for Dublin I think?
Irish selection policy basically allows the selectors to choose the 3 of their liking from the qualified pool. Pollock had a slower time than Sergiu Ciabanu and he was picked over him based on past good runs in Europeans etc. Pollock also won Inter Cross that year I believe. Clohisey and Seaward were the other qualifiers. Was a bit of controversy at the time. Jerry Kiernan (2:12 marathoner, sub 4 miler, 9th at LA Olympics and owner of a LEGENDARY mullet) was his coach and did a few interviews on it.
This was Rio 2016. And I agree socks/shoes Tobin would give it a good run, Hugh Armstrong, possibly David Flynn if he could hold it together. Conor Dooney? Gary O'Hanlon is proving ageless in the 2:16 range
Off the back of what star of sea said, Tobin had a little controversy in his World Half selection given he's never tried the distance.
David Flynn's sub 64 in the half could suggest a good run, but still a margin outside Scullion/Pollock/Seaward.
Gary O'Hanlon proving ageless is right, but the problem is selectors would favour a 2:17 younger guy as opposed to OHanlon in 2:16 I'd assume?
You ain't even a twinkle in the selectors eyes unless you have 2:11:30 or better or top 5 like Scullion. So 2:12-2:18 also rans will be sat at home.
I love the way O’Hanlon is innocently being brought in the conversation.
5/6 minutes behind the Top 3 in Ireland yet casually mentioned as a contender.
Hed be fortunate to make a top 3 in his club and needs a teammate or teammates to underperform.
Great vet all the same, next%s seem to suit him.
I did say I'd be surprised if if wasn't scullion/seaward and Pollock.
Mentioned OHanlon and ageless, but he has no chance of a selection. Fantastic vet, I only mentioned him in regards to selectors choices to show even without half a dozen quicker guys, he still might not be next in line