Irish Marathoner runners latest twits to cry over the Vaporflys...

We get it, you wear Vaporflys and you know how much they improve your performance.

You could have just said that instead of the weird emotional rant.

Don’t think they are crying over them. Scullion needs help. He retired last week. For what it’s worth, Seaward is pictured wearing an Adidas Boston, is a high school principal and unlike most modern 2.10 guys works full time. Cool guy all round.

This rant was tragic. Did you copy and paste it from your Strava when you PR'd in vaporflys for the first time?

In the article scullion talks about wearing UA shoes at world champs, where he was never going to run fast or place, so it was fine to give his sponsor some world champs cover.

Look at Dublin, Houston? and even a 10k in N.Ireland he ran a few days ago in 28ish I think. Blacked out vaporlfys.. he wears them too when he wants to go fast. No right to complain.

Scullion needs to stop whining.

The only reason he has a qualifier for the Olympics (top 5 houston) is because he was wearing Next%.

So you'd think he would just shut up and enjoy the fact he qualified, rather than continually complain about them.

If he thinks they are so wrong, don't wear them, and withdraw yourself from selection from the Irish team... until you run the Olympic time in a pair of UA.

Same deal as world champs. Can see him wearing UA at Olympics where he has no chance of anything.

Qualifying for Olympics is the end goal for him. Whatever he runs there is bonus / fun.

People say the saucony endorphin pro is better than the next%, i wonder when we get to read whining about how saucony is ruining the sport.. people just have to accept that a change has happened in the sport and there's nothing they can do about it anymore. And the more they complain, the more they are going to take the attention away from the athletes and performance, and promote the narrative that the sport is ruined and it's all about the shoes now, and then it really will be so.

Ross Tucker summed up the situation of running best - paraphrasing here: "At the end of Wimbledon you don't ask yourself, if Federer and Nadal swapped rackets would the result be any different"?

The integrity of our sport has been compromised by World Athletics not enforcing their own rules then sitting on their hands when they did "act" (by making rules that actually entrenched Nike's position).

this website is about the opinion of the rojos. that's why you only see anti vaporfly quotes in the front page or why threads about not having to wear masks are not deleted.

what a sh;it article...

they claim the alphaflys are banned.

blind leading the whiners

and when the fluck will a word like shi:t not be banned on this silly site.

Hey 10 year olds reading from your parent's house: people swear...

Work Commute Track Club wrote:

Ross Tucker summed up the situation of running best - paraphrasing here: "At the end of Wimbledon you don't ask yourself, if Federer and Nadal swapped rackets would the result be any different"?

The integrity of our sport has been compromised by World Athletics not enforcing their own rules then sitting on their hands when they did "act" (by making rules that actually entrenched Nike's position).

So tennis racket technology hasn't progressed ever? Are Nadal and Federer using the same rackets as players from the 1970s? The best runners still win, just like the best tennis player still wins. Innovation was always going to occur, it's come too quickly for some but now that most major brands are releasing similar shoes to the Vaporfly, the "integrity" of the sport (if it even had any) is maintained.

Adifan wrote:

Work Commute Track Club wrote:

Ross Tucker summed up the situation of running best - paraphrasing here: "At the end of Wimbledon you don't ask yourself, if Federer and Nadal swapped rackets would the result be any different"?

The integrity of our sport has been compromised by World Athletics not enforcing their own rules then sitting on their hands when they did "act" (by making rules that actually entrenched Nike's position).

So tennis racket technology hasn't progressed ever? Are Nadal and Federer using the same rackets as players from the 1970s? The best runners still win, just like the best tennis player still wins. Innovation was always going to occur, it's come too quickly for some but now that most major brands are releasing similar shoes to the Vaporfly, the "integrity" of the sport (if it even had any) is maintained.

I guess the point is that no tennis racket gives a significant advantage over other current models.

If I remember correctly, Federer used old fashioned string in his racket, made of gut or something, that resulted in more control of the ball although less power, which fits his playing style better.

If the Endorphin Pro, Adios Pro, etc. come close to the Alphafly in terms of performance, then people will have to accept that's the way running shoes are now and move on.

But, for a couple of years, some athletes have been benefitting from what amounts to mechanical doping while their competition were unaware or unable to use the same tech. People shouldn't move on from that. That hasn't been repaired yet.

Btw, does Under Armour have any decent road racing shoe? Something comparable to the Adios 5, Streak 7, etc.

I think their guys currently use HOVR velocity, although I reckon it's best of a bad bunch. Adios and streak are still legit shoes for speed stuff.

I know Scullion (when he's not racing in black out vaporflys) has been using a custom prototype 'UA Scully' or something along those lines. Can see pics on his Instagram tags.

That probably speaks volumes to the quality of their available line up when he has the custom shoe for any fast work where he's going to be seen or photographed and so can't wear the vaporfly lol

Yes. Under Armour don't seem to commit to making decent running shoes.

Adifan wrote:

Work Commute Track Club wrote:

Ross Tucker summed up the situation of running best - paraphrasing here: "At the end of Wimbledon you don't ask yourself, if Federer and Nadal swapped rackets would the result be any different"?

The integrity of our sport has been compromised by World Athletics not enforcing their own rules then sitting on their hands when they did "act" (by making rules that actually entrenched Nike's position).

So tennis racket technology hasn't progressed ever? Are Nadal and Federer using the same rackets as players from the 1970s? The best runners still win, just like the best tennis player still wins. Innovation was always going to occur, it's come too quickly for some but now that most major brands are releasing similar shoes to the Vaporfly, the "integrity" of the sport (if it even had any) is maintained.

Not the best analogy, because in running, you're not just competing against your competitors, you're also competing against the clock and measuring your performances against others who have competed against the clock in the past in the same event.

Dude, I can categorically guarantee you I don't wear Nike Vaporflys and I neither do I even use Strava for running (I'll say that because I used to be into with cycling about 5 years ago but now I don't bother either).

So no copy pasting here sl@pnuts. I mean I'm trying to find a point to you bringing up his UA shoes, some races he has apparently recently run - I don't see one. The only thing tragic is your logic kimosabe.

What I do see the overused narrative of complaining about "spring shoes" and how they should be banned and how we all need to apologize to the runners of the past who didn't have the same access to these shoes and I have the freedom to voice my opinion about that.

Which as I pointed out is just so frustrating and ill-informed on so many levels. Not only have carbon fiber, nylon with carbon fiber content, nylon with glass fiber and just nylon on its own, plates been around for literally decades, so has midsole foam made of all sorts of materials that have provided benefits to runners. So there is zero basis behind any call for "banning" these shoes or anything else any other brand has done.

But the thing that really gets me, reeeally gets me are people using the term "springs" when they clearly have no idea what a spring is. The closest thing to a functioning spring in these products is the foam and as I mentioned, I have never heard before any issue with midsole foam developments (including EVA and its 50 variants, Boost, other materials) until now when somebody did their homework and realized that by combining it with a lightweight and rigid material they could create an increase in economy to athletes.

But good try, I applaud your endeavor.

Anyone who doesn't want to compete against vaporfly wearers can now move down to the 10k. Its not the best solution, but nike has way too much money in the game for a more elegant one.

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Nike haters just mad they can’t break 2:30 ?