When will Adidas kill boost

I use adidas for running and pretty enjoy it.

I really like the Boston 8 and Adios 4. I think this years lineup isn't fantastic. The Adios 5 upper looks too baggy and most report that they don't have the pop of the 4. The boston 9 looks almost identical to the 8 so maybe it's ok. I bought some Takumi Sen 6 for 5k/10k racing and they were way too heavy (over 230g compared to my usual Streak TL at 135g) and didn't fit, despite me taking the same size that I have in 3 pairs of adidas shoes.

Adizero pro looks pretty good but it's also way too heavy. Nearly 300g in my size is not a racing shoe in my opinion. The next% in my size is only about 200g.

CoachJSforPrez2020 wrote:

So how long before Adidas admits that 90% of their shoes are garbage for running and revamps their designs from the ground up. Boost foam became old news years ago and while every other company has put out substantial updates Adidas is stuck in the 2000s. Their only decent options, the Boston and adios can no longer compete with other trainers on the market. Time to scrap the whole Boost project and redesign. It’s either that or fully commit to just being a casual line.

This post makes no sense. Boost has been on the market for 7 years, since 2013. That's not a long time when you consider Asics Gel and Nike Air were around for decades, since the 1980s.

People saying Adidas are mainly for fashion don't know what they're talking about. Try walking around in a pair of Ultra Boost. That's the extreme end of the line, but it makes the point. With 10mm drop and wedge shape, Adidas running shoes feel much better when running with a slight forward lean and a fore to mid foot strike than they do walking.

The one thing Adidas was slow to react on is putting carbon springs in their shoes,

And here is me running 140 miles a week barefoot and racing in some old xc spikes with over 3000 miles on them, shoes don't matter.

I have the Adizero Pro...good shoe, I like it.

It's softer than the Adios or Boston, esp in the heel. Some will like that, some won't.

Same fit as the Adios and Boston.

Has a nice roll from heel to toe - besides fit that's the thing I look for first in a shoe.

Feels lively.

Not sure how much faster it is than the Adios tho - too early to say.

sub14v wrote:

And here is me running 140 miles a week barefoot and racing in some old xc spikes with over 3000 miles on them, shoes don't matter.

Nice self brag

WhyRegisterHere? wrote:Every shoe company has surpassed them in terms of 'super foam' midsoles that are light, cushioning and responsive. All the while, Adidas has been content to sit on their hands.

Kill the Boost line? And go back to EVA? Why would they do that? Nobody has anything better than Boost. Other brands are catching up by introducing their own versions of TPU midsoles. Saucony has a lot of TPU now, but New Balance and Brooks still don't have anything as good last I checked.

Yes, blown pebax is a superior foam for racing, but not for training. It has very limited durability, whereas Boost midsoles last essentially indefinitely (certainly longer than the uppers and outsoles).

I agree that Adidas hasn't done anything particularly revolutionary since Boost came out, but that doesn't mean that, for instance, the Adios, Boston, and Ultra suddenly became bad shoes. If something was a good shoe 5 years ago, it's still a good shoe. Tech doesn't move that quickly.

Keep in mind that Adidas has been phasing in Lightstrike - they aren't fully dependent on Boost anymore. THey arent' standing still.

ADIDAS SL20 = 100% Lightstrike.

ADIDAS ADIZERO BOSTON 8 = Approx. 50% BOOST, 50% Lightstrike.

ADIDAS ADIZERO ADIOS 5 = Approx. 20% BOOST, 80% Lightstrike.

BOOST is ADIDAS' well-known midsole material, known (and loved) for its springy and "bouncy" feeling under the foot. The BOOST material is extremely effective in reverting to its original shape after being compressed, and therefore returns a lot of energy to the runner. The disadvantage of BOOST, however, is that it is relatively heavy. And that just clashes a bit with making fast running shoes that are as light as possible.

Lightstrike is a relatively new material from ADIDAS, which is significantly lighter and more rapid in its response than BOOST. The lighter weight means that, in their new SL20, ADIDAS has been able to get MORE material (more foam) under the foot compared to Adios and Boston — without making the shoe heavier.

In Adios and Boston, rather than using 100% BOOST, ADIDAS decided to combine BOOST and Lightstrike in order to get the best of both worlds.

https://www.runningxpert.com/en/inspiration/fasterthan

As I mentioned before, Boost is good, I loved it when I first got it and still have a couple Adidas shoes in rotation. But the recent models has stalled. Saucony, for example, currently has better options for me and they always seem to be looking for little improvements. Adidas may not have the same motivation considering running shoes for serious runners are a small slice of their business, while Saucony is all about runners.

I'll be interested to see where Adidas goes with Lightstrike, but early reviews of their Lightstrike models don't seem too enthusiastic.

100%.

Boost shoes are readily available, cheap, and ridiculously durable TPU. The boston is the best daily trainer on the market.

Dear adidas, if you ever read this, never get rid of a boost or boost 2.0 TPU option.

The future is not Boost and Adidas shoes which last forever.

The future is Zoom/Zoom-like foam that works for one or two hundred miles, and shoes such as the Atreyu which you can get direct for a much more rational price - then have four or five pairs covering your year.

We can't all be SJD and have new shoes every other day, but this is the way you can get close to that.

Now, we just need a system to retrieve these Zoomish and Atreyish shoes and ship them off to other countries rather than churn/churn/churn.

The adios is not 20% boost. More than half of the foam is made of boost that's why they're so heavy with a small stack height. Boost is a great material in your average everyday trainer because it lasts forever but the racing line they had was trash. I see plenty of people here saying the Takumi Sen is a better racer than the VF for 5k and 10k. I have those shoes and they suck. They don't have any cushion and they're heavy for what you get not to mention expensive at retail for no reason at all. The Streak LT is a much better shoe for that category.

CoachJSforPrez2020 wrote:

So how long before Adidas admits that 90% of their shoes are garbage for running and revamps their designs from the ground up. Boost foam became old news years ago and while every other company has put out substantial updates Adidas is stuck in the 2000s. Their only decent options, the Boston and adios can no longer compete with other trainers on the market. Time to scrap the whole Boost project and redesign. It’s either that or fully commit to just being a casual line.

Much ado about nothing

6/10