We were due for a periodic Nike shill Adidas bashing.
We were due for a periodic Nike shill Adidas bashing.
less than 10 cents a mile wrote:
I buy my own shoes so I'm a fan of the boost durability. At 1,000 miles my Bostons are just getting broken in. The cushioning is also better in the cold ( - 0, F) than any shoe I've owned.
I've been going to adidas a lot more in recent years because of durability too. Not just Boost, but their uppers hold up. I don't like the higher heel offset of most of their road shoes, but the Ultraboost is an exception for me (softness of heel makes it seem lower maybe). The Takumi Sen is good on asphalt for me (even normsl training run), Boston a bit too high in the heel, so I limit mileage in those. My all around trainers are their trail shoes with 6 mm offset (Terrex Two and Terrex Agravic Flow).
I don't prioritize lightness or "response" or those kinds of things for a training shoe. They don't make you fitter than a less flashy shoe. I just want to get a lot of miles (1,000+). I was fast when I was younger, and just wore the same crap shoes every day, sometimes for 3,000, 4,000+ miles before get a new pair.
Takumi Sen are neither heavy nor 10mm drop.
Adidas are just on a dip in innovation. Boost was the industry leader for a long time but now others have overtaken adidas. I still like the Boston and Adios, they're decent shoes, but Adidas haven't done anything interesting for years now. I used the Boston as my go-to for tempo runs and faster long runs, now you have the Endorphin Speed and Fuelcell TC which are in a different league.
Maybe the Adizero Pro and Adios Pro can get Adidas back in the game. I'd give the Adizero Pro a go if there was any guarantee it would be durable enough to use as a trainer
I've been running almost exclusively in adidas since the first boost came out. Been a while.
Yes, they are very, very durable. I get sick of the shoes before I actually wear them out. It's extraordinary. And the adios and boston are always on sale somewhere for $60.
One thing no one has mentioned is fit...I have a narrow foot and haven't found any other running shoes that fit as well as the adios and boston. And now Adizero Pro. I've pretty much given up other companies because I just slosh around in their shoes. But year after year I fit into the newer versions of those models, no problem.
So that's a niche for adidas...also a problem I suspect, because probably for most people adidas is too narrow. It also means I don't know how newer midsole materials feel compared to boost.
agip wrote:
So that's a niche for adidas...also a problem I suspect, because probably for most people adidas is too narrow. It also means I don't know how newer midsole materials feel compared to boost.
I posted earlier, mostly wear adidas currently too, but I have wide feet, mainly due to bunions. That kept me away from adidas for a long time. I remember liking the classic Response Trails in the '90s, then suddenly a few versions later, I couldn't even get my feet into the shoes to try on they had become so narrow. But that has changed, particularly their trail Two (trails without obstacles) line which have wide fit as a feature. The stretchy Primeknit on my Ultraboost A 16+ is maybe the best possible comfort for bunions. On the other hand, I wear the Boston 7, Takumi Sen (full size up), and old non-Boost Adios 2 without the sockliners to gain the volume to be comfortable. But they are comfortable that way for me, so I don't mind (plus save weight). Actually, the only pair of adidas that I use sockliners in currently is the Flow, which I got a half size large.
Agree with you on the upper - I haven't had one fail yet. The outsole is also built for miles. It takes a lot to burn through the Conti rubber.
Subway Surfers wrote:
Adidas ultra boost is the only shoe for people with stuffed achilles tendons. No heel counter.
As someone who has chronic Achilles issues this is true. And the ultraboost has helped me continue running (Nike Pegasus 35-37 and Zoom fly 3 also have the flared heel tab). The Ultraboost is a great shoe if only it could be 3-4 oz lighter.
less than 10 cents a mile wrote:
I buy my own shoes so I'm a fan of the boost durability. At 1,000 miles my Bostons are just getting broken in. The cushioning is also better in the cold ( - 0, F) than any shoe I've owned.
Lol. Do you weigh 80 pounds? Bostons consistently go flat for me around 400 miles (~140 pounds). But you can usually find them online marked down to $50 or $60, so still not bad.
I don't really think there are that many Boost/Boston haters out there. Light, responsive, 10 mm drop, can usually be found well under $100....makes a good all-rounder for lots of people. I do hate the upper in the 9, though, so hopefully they'll change that.
ATEA4RE wrote:
less than 10 cents a mile wrote:
I buy my own shoes so I'm a fan of the boost durability. At 1,000 miles my Bostons are just getting broken in. The cushioning is also better in the cold ( - 0, F) than any shoe I've owned.
Lol. Do you weigh 80 pounds? Bostons consistently go flat for me around 400 miles (~140 pounds). But you can usually find them online marked down to $50 or $60, so still not bad.
I don't really think there are that many Boost/Boston haters out there. Light, responsive, 10 mm drop, can usually be found well under $100....makes a good all-rounder for lots of people. I do hate the upper in the 9, though, so hopefully they'll change that.
I'm a similar weight, never have that issue. At 400 I feel like I could almost return them to the store as new. I've had many other shoes that are shot at that mileage.
ATEA4RE wrote:
less than 10 cents a mile wrote:
I buy my own shoes so I'm a fan of the boost durability. At 1,000 miles my Bostons are just getting broken in. The cushioning is also better in the cold ( - 0, F) than any shoe I've owned.
Lol. Do you weigh 80 pounds? Bostons consistently go flat for me around 400 miles (~140 pounds). But you can usually find them online marked down to $50 or $60, so still not bad.
I don't really think there are that many Boost/Boston haters out there. Light, responsive, 10 mm drop, can usually be found well under $100....makes a good all-rounder for lots of people. I do hate the upper in the 9, though, so hopefully they'll change that.
I like the Bostons but wish they worked better for me. Unfortunately, I find the forefoot a little too thin and they aren't much use for longer runs and consistent daily training. Often what I find with higher drop shoes is the heel is massive and the forefoot is thin, which doesn't exactly work for me.
CoachJSforPrez2020 wrote:
So how long before Adidas admits that 90% of their shoes are garbage for running and revamps their designs from the ground up. Boost foam became old news years ago and while every other company has put out substantial updates Adidas is stuck in the 2000s. Their only decent options, the Boston and adios can no longer compete with other trainers on the market. Time to scrap the whole Boost project and redesign. It’s either that or fully commit to just being a casual line.
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Anyone have miles in the new Solarglide 3? At 10.5 is they're right in line with workhorses like Pegs 37, Ghost.
Hoping the SG3 will fit like the old Supernova Glide 6,7. What set that apart was the response you felt at 600miles! I always seemed to get at least 300more than Brooks, Nikes. The fit had more volume/width than Adizero Boston's.
Running grass loops/groom trails is something I'd say Adios 4 is great at unlike the high bouncy stack of carbon racer series. At sub 9oz I think Boston 8s could be a great shoe unfortunately the upper is just too constricting unlike the nice stretch Adios 4 has.
If the Boston goes away it would just be from marketing changes. I have had versions from 2007 ( and still have one)to the Boston Boost 7; they've all been great shoes.
CoachJSforPrez2020 wrote:
So how long before Adidas admits that 90% of their shoes are garbage for running and revamps their designs from the ground up. Boost foam became old news years ago and while every other company has put out substantial updates Adidas is stuck in the 2000s. Their only decent options, the Boston and adios can no longer compete with other trainers on the market. Time to scrap the whole Boost project and redesign. It’s either that or fully commit to just being a casual line.
“Look at me, I’m CoachJSforPrez2020. I want to cancel something because I don’t like it!”
If you don’t like boost, don’t buy it. No one is forcing you.I like boost and many other people do too. TPU is the best midsole for easy running for me. Why do you want to kill something that is popular?
Huh? The Boston is still a great faster training shoe if you like a bit more drop than some of the low drop trainers. It feels great for tempos, faster long runs, long intervals, etc.
I would still race in Next %’s, but the Boston is a true workhorse that has definitely earned its keep for $65 a pair. What’s not to like?? Pair it up with a heavier trainer for easy days and a race shoe and you’re good to go.
Ditto. Been in all the new foams, some real nice for awhile - others lending themselves to injuries from the unnatural bounce and early compression set. I always come back to my Bostons and adios. The Boost in my size 9s may increase weight (8.2 and 7.8 respectively), but compared to other top-shelf super-foams, they certainly aren’t the heaviest. And you’re correct: pushing 100 degrees in central VA, and the cushion is the same as in single digits. No midsole degradation. No complaints.
CoachJSforPrez2020 wrote:
So how long before Adidas admits that 90% of their shoes are garbage for running and revamps their designs from the ground up. Boost foam became old news years ago and while every other company has put out substantial updates Adidas is stuck in the 2000s. Their only decent options, the Boston and adios can no longer compete with other trainers on the market. Time to scrap the whole Boost project and redesign. It’s either that or fully commit to just being a casual line.
They are stuck in the 2010s as Boost debuted in 2013. I used to wear primarily Adidas in the 2000s, but after the Kinvara came out in 2010 I could never go back. Tried Boost when it came out, but never liked the feel of it and I never run in shoes with that high of drops any more (big heel, thin forefoot). Only Adidas I've purchased in the last 10 years were the Takumi Sen and Sub 2. Neither were terribly impressive or as good as my other racing flats, the Saucony Type A and Reebox Run Fast Pro (hopefully the nubs are more durable than on the Takumi Sen). It seems the Reebox line, which they own, is becoming more popular with runners lately. Although it could just be the fact that they are constantly on sale for 40-50% off.
To full understand the beauty of Adidas Boost one needs to be an efficient runner . And I have no idea how some of you are retiring boost shoes under 500 miles, are you guys aggressively stomping the ground every stride or what? .... Boost mid-sole offers one of the most natural form of running(Ground contact) and response. Shoes like Boston, Adios , Solar Drive are serious running shoes . Majority of runners seek cushioned shoes that feels like a sofa , one will never develop resilient bones that way to run most efficiently.
Adidas Adizero Boost 3 still the fastest marathon shoe ever produced.
Disclaimer: that doesn't bounce you up and down the road.
Early reviews have the adios pro as a total game changer.
As posters have previously said Adidas rules in apparel and Football boots in Europe. The 3 stripes man, Iconic