Hardloper wrote:
HM guy wrote:
Is there a video? I'd love this to be true, but this is the internet...
100% troll. There's a few tells but the biggest giveaway is the OP pretending not to know anything about distance running.
Yes, add to it the screen name and the fact that the football friend who ran a fast time also knows that the elites run 12/13 minutes.
Hardloper wrote:
HM guy wrote:
Is there a video? I'd love this to be true, but this is the internet...
100% troll. There's a few tells but the biggest giveaway is the OP pretending not to know anything about distance running.
Anonymous MB with no registered name, no app to support time. Do yourself, friend, and running virtually a favor post the results on Strava, YT, etc. Have a lap counter.
I 100% believe OP, have none of yall ever had a soccer player come out for cross country? Soccer players (especially female) have incredible endurance and can become good runners in a very short amount of time. At my school (D3) we let one of the soccer players run a time trial to be the 7th man on our region team. I think he ran like 26:30 so pretty decent
Hardloper wrote:
HM guy wrote:
Is there a video? I'd love this to be true, but this is the internet...
100% troll. There's a few tells but the biggest giveaway is the OP pretending not to know anything about distance running.
100% troll.
"Just did a 5K time trial"....then a few hours later does a mile time trial. At least wait a day or two......
hansen9952 wrote:
Wow. That's quite impressive. If you guys are fresh enough tomorrow, or better yet the day after tomorrow, try running an all out 400m to gauge inherent speed. If he can run close to 50 flat then I can see him eventually running sub-4 for the mile with solid training.
Then the day after that have him run a marathon, so we can check both ends of the spectrum.
That's pretty good, but it's closer to Shelby Houlihan than to Mo Ahmed, at least in the one-dimensional set of real numbers.
Kvothe wrote:
Does the guy like running? He could be a one in a billion talent, but if he'd rather play soccer than run races, there is no sense trying to get him to switch sports, unless he's motivated by the allure of success and isn't already a soccer super star.
Reminds me of a kid at my old high school. He got cut from the soccer team as a junior and joined the cross country team instead. Dude ran 15:30ish and got 6th at states off of two workouts a week and jogging to the park to smoke with his friends for his easy runs. Our coach begged him to come out for winter track but he became a full time pot-head after that season.
Thanks for feedback everyone. didn't think I would get this much interest to be honest lol!
I think Matt is going to join the local track club and do some off season cross country type training. I showed him this message board to check out as well.
To address a couple of the questions:
"Is there a video? I'd love this to be true, but this is the internet..."
- nah we didn't video it - there seem to be a lot of nice people on this website but also a lot of harsh critics so didn't want to get insulted or something if people know where we're running, who we are etc.
"I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that he ran 11.5 laps but thought he ran 12.5."
- nah, my coach and assistant coach were counting down the laps for everyone. He definitely ran 12.5
"Does the guy like running? He could be a one in a billion talent, but if he'd rather play soccer than run races, there is no sense trying to get him to switch sports, unless he's motivated by the allure of success and isn't already a soccer super star."
- he likes running and soccer but his passion is mountaineering. I told him running probably wouldn't interfere with that.
"100% troll. There's a few tells but the biggest giveaway is the OP pretending not to know anything about distance running."
- i don't know anything about distance running - how does that make me a troll?
"Yes, add to it the screen name and the fact that the football friend who ran a fast time also knows that the elites run 12/13 minutes."
- after he killed us in that race we looked up "5000m world record" and found out fast times
"Anonymous MB with no registered name, no app to support time. Do yourself, friend, and running virtually a favor post the results on Strava, YT, etc. Have a lap counter."
- yeah I just don't want to post under my real name and get insulted/shot down - it's already happening under an anon name! What's Strava? It looks like a biking GPS App? Like a lap counter for shoes or a person counting laps? Both our coaches were counting laps
"Just did a 5K time trial"....then a few hours later does a mile time trial. At least wait a day or two......"
- 5k was 3 days ago. I guess "just" meant recently this week. So 3 days in between so we were super well rested for todays workout
I don't care if you're trolling or not. Your friend will become a top runner and will be crushing us less talented guys in a couple years or he won't. At this point, I can't even run faster than the best American woman at 5k, so what's it matter if one more dude can beat me.
I call B.S. There is 0% chance. That is 40-50 mpw minimum. Poor work troll. Novice.
what makes me think it is a troll is that the nickname suggests they are Spanish footballers but no way a Spanish footballer would speak such a good English XD
Impala31 wrote:
what makes me think it is a troll is that the nickname suggests they are Spanish footballers but no way a Spanish footballer would speak such a good English XD
And the timezone he was posting in makes no sense
I absolutely believe it is possible for a footballer to come out and run 15:30 off mostly football training at 24 years of age. It's rare but probably shows he has the talent to to run at least 13:30 or so. The likelihood of one actually achieving the latter is very small however, due to the dedication required.
I still think this particular post is a troll but I'd be pleasantly surprised if he were real.
footballbarcelonaa wrote:
"Anonymous MB with no registered name, no app to support time. Do yourself, friend, and running virtually a favor post the results on Strava, YT, etc. Have a lap counter."
- yeah I just don't want to post under my real name and get insulted/shot down - it's already happening under an anon name! What's Strava? It looks like a biking GPS App? Like a lap counter for shoes or a person counting laps? Both our coaches were counting laps
Wait a second, your 24, know about LetsRun, yet have never heard of Strava?
I'm going with 11.5 laps, heck even 10.5. Appreciate your coach counted but hey we all make mistakes - ask Noah Lyles.
I really want to believe that there is a guy who ran 15:25 off no proper training, but with no proof whatsoever I'm extremely skeptical. He would undoubtedly be a world class talent, possibly future world record holder.
But even if the post is genuine, we're going off the coaches counting laps and nothing else? What if they miscounted?
What makes it even harder to believe is that if he knew nothing about running he probably paced himself really inconsistently, AND he was having to run further to constantly lap people. Taking all this into account we're probably talking about a guy who's capable of sub-15 off no training. If that's true, he's the greatest runner ever to live, far more talented than Bolt, Bekele, anyone you could name...
Bad Wigins wrote:
That's pretty good, but it's closer to Shelby Houlihan than to Mo Ahmed, at least in the one-dimensional set of real numbers.
I think we mean complex numbers in the OP's case
Greatest Runner Ever To Live? wrote:
I really want to believe that there is a guy who ran 15:25 off no proper training, but with no proof whatsoever I'm extremely skeptical. He would undoubtedly be a world class talent, possibly future world record holder.
But even if the post is genuine, we're going off the coaches counting laps and nothing else? What if they miscounted?
What makes it even harder to believe is that if he knew nothing about running he probably paced himself really inconsistently, AND he was having to run further to constantly lap people. Taking all this into account we're probably talking about a guy who's capable of sub-15 off no training. If that's true, he's the greatest runner ever to live, far more talented than Bolt, Bekele, anyone you could name...
No. Not even close.
Rudisha ran 1:50 for his first ever 800m, aged 14, on dirt, at altitude in Kenya.
The level of talent in those you mentioned is unfathomable. Tadese for example ran a marathon in 2:10 with no water or gels.
In the breaking 2 project he was registering no lactic build-up at elite marathon pace without having done any training for years.
footballbarcelonaa wrote:
Thanks for feedback everyone. didn't think I would get this much interest to be honest lol!
I think Matt is going to join the local track club and do some off season cross country type training. I showed him this message board to check out as well.
To address a couple of the questions:
"Is there a video? I'd love this to be true, but this is the internet..."
- nah we didn't video it - there seem to be a lot of nice people on this website but also a lot of harsh critics so didn't want to get insulted or something if people know where we're running, who we are etc.
"I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that he ran 11.5 laps but thought he ran 12.5."
- nah, my coach and assistant coach were counting down the laps for everyone. He definitely ran 12.5
"Does the guy like running? He could be a one in a billion talent, but if he'd rather play soccer than run races, there is no sense trying to get him to switch sports, unless he's motivated by the allure of success and isn't already a soccer super star."
- he likes running and soccer but his passion is mountaineering. I told him running probably wouldn't interfere with that.
"100% troll. There's a few tells but the biggest giveaway is the OP pretending not to know anything about distance running."
- i don't know anything about distance running - how does that make me a troll?
"Yes, add to it the screen name and the fact that the football friend who ran a fast time also knows that the elites run 12/13 minutes."
- after he killed us in that race we looked up "5000m world record" and found out fast times
"Anonymous MB with no registered name, no app to support time. Do yourself, friend, and running virtually a favor post the results on Strava, YT, etc. Have a lap counter."
- yeah I just don't want to post under my real name and get insulted/shot down - it's already happening under an anon name! What's Strava? It looks like a biking GPS App? Like a lap counter for shoes or a person counting laps? Both our coaches were counting laps
"Just did a 5K time trial"....then a few hours later does a mile time trial. At least wait a day or two......"
- 5k was 3 days ago. I guess "just" meant recently this week. So 3 days in between so we were super well rested for todays workout
Sounds to be true to me.I`ll make an offer. If he`s prepared to quit football and make a try to see how fast he can improve in running with world class low mileage training 5-6 sessions per week ,
I`ll coach him for free. If interested he can contact me at my official email ;
magic@coachjs.sePs! And there will still be room for his passion mountaineering on the days off and maybe some more.
ex-runner wrote:
Greatest Runner Ever To Live? wrote:
I really want to believe that there is a guy who ran 15:25 off no proper training, but with no proof whatsoever I'm extremely skeptical. He would undoubtedly be a world class talent, possibly future world record holder.
But even if the post is genuine, we're going off the coaches counting laps and nothing else? What if they miscounted?
What makes it even harder to believe is that if he knew nothing about running he probably paced himself really inconsistently, AND he was having to run further to constantly lap people. Taking all this into account we're probably talking about a guy who's capable of sub-15 off no training. If that's true, he's the greatest runner ever to live, far more talented than Bolt, Bekele, anyone you could name...
No. Not even close.
Rudisha ran 1:50 for his first ever 800m, aged 14, on dirt, at altitude in Kenya.
The level of talent in those you mentioned is unfathomable. Tadese for example ran a marathon in 2:10 with no water or gels.
In the breaking 2 project he was registering no lactic build-up at elite marathon pace without having done any training for years.
And to add, he took up running in 2001 and in 2002 finished 30th in the World cross country championships, wearing shoes that were two sizes too big. In that same year he ran 63 for the half marathon. And then 6th in the African championships 10k.
One year of athletics focus. At age 20.
Elite talent is a different level.
Greatest Runner Ever To Live? wrote:
I really want to believe that there is a guy who ran 15:25 off no proper training, but with no proof whatsoever I'm extremely skeptical. He would undoubtedly be a world class talent, possibly future world record holder.
But even if the post is genuine, we're going off the coaches counting laps and nothing else? What if they miscounted?
What makes it even harder to believe is that if he knew nothing about running he probably paced himself really inconsistently, AND he was having to run further to constantly lap people. Taking all this into account we're probably talking about a guy who's capable of sub-15 off no training. If that's true, he's the greatest runner ever to live, far more talented than Bolt, Bekele, anyone you could name...
Wdym? It’s not like he just got off the couch and ran a 15:25. He’s well conditioned and passionate about other high endurance sports which makes this scenario plausible in my eyes. Plus, a 10k run each week and additional, regular soccer training is enough exercise to stimulate a physiological response if he is indeed that talented.
Also, to whoever said that the poster’s handle makes it seem like a troll—could you be anymore ironic? Barcelona plus football could mean a number of different things. Namely that he might happen to like fc barcelona. Duh? Like that’s the point of anonymous handles. I certainly choose the first thing that pops into my head if I post anonymously. It doesn’t make him any less or more credible.
Greatest Runner Ever To Live? wrote:
I really want to believe that there is a guy who ran 15:25 off no proper training, but with no proof whatsoever I'm extremely skeptical. He would undoubtedly be a world class talent, possibly future world record holder.
But even if the post is genuine, we're going off the coaches counting laps and nothing else? What if they miscounted?
What makes it even harder to believe is that if he knew nothing about running he probably paced himself really inconsistently, AND he was having to run further to constantly lap people. Taking all this into account we're probably talking about a guy who's capable of sub-15 off no training. If that's true, he's the greatest runner ever to live, far more talented than Bolt, Bekele, anyone you could name...
Don't exaggerate. I'm sure Bekele would have run sub 14' with good soccer training and a weekly 10k jog.