Reminds me of the OJ trial.
Reminds me of the OJ trial.
All about the $$$$$$$$$$$
slripe111 wrote:
miss piggy wrote:
Since the 1960’s, the United States government has spent trillions trying to help black people.
Welfare
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Low income section 8 housing
Food stamps
Medicaid
Medicare
Social security
Public schools
The list goes on and on
And no that ‘trillions’ is not a typo.
Yet still those communities are poor and crime infested.
I’m sorry but nothing will ever change.
As long as a society is dependent on handouts and sympathy ... they will never improve.
Looks like you got half the picture. People (both white and black) were brought over for their slave labor, these same people are emancipated but have nowhere to go. Now business needs them in the manufacture centers of America but they still can’t stomach integration so they create substandard dwellings and force them in (ghettos). There is no opportunity in these ghettos and people either barely get by or don’t at all. This raises their ire. The government doesn’t provide better opportunity but instead gives them money. This pacifys them without giving any real concessions that would amount to a meaningful change in the neglected people’s lives. This is calculated and intentional.
Last time I checked HS and trade schools were free. If you to go CC or a state school, there is a lot of free aid to those who have lower incomes irrespective of color. So, who exactly is forcing them where? How is there no way out? You think too little of people. I recall watching a reporter go to Brooklyn after interviewing some college kids from Berkeley explaining how POC can't figure out voting laws, find where to register, didn't have IDs, etc. The people in Brooklyn were pretty offended. They had IDs, knew where their voting stations were, used their cell phones to find things, etc like everyone else. Your explanation sounds a lot like that.
miss piggy wrote:
Since the 1960’s, the United States government has spent trillions trying to help black people.
Welfare
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Low income section 8 housing
Food stamps
Medicaid
Medicare
Social security
Public schools
The list goes on and on
And no that ‘trillions’ is not a typo.
Yet still those communities are poor and crime infested.
I’m sorry but nothing will ever change.
As long as a society is dependent on handouts and sympathy ... they will never improve.
I disagree that nothing will ever change but we need to take a different approach. Throwing money at the problem is not going to work. We need a strategy. Both sides need to evaluate what the problems are and attacking the real problems and not try to make symbolic gestures or put in place policy that is proven not to work. The rhetoric needs to tone down as well as it is only causing division.
There are examples of groups of people facing discrimination in America and overcoming them. But clearly certain communities have been less successful.
El Keniano wrote:
Never too late, I suppose. But he had to wait until it was safe and no longer controversial. Air Jordan sales matter.
LeBron > Jordan
Says the fake Kenyan whose roots are from bolshevik Russia.
This article is from 2016...
Yeah but what's his 5k PR?!?!
miss piggy wrote:
Since the 1960’s, the United States government has spent trillions trying to help black people.
Welfare
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Low income section 8 housing
Food stamps
Medicaid
Medicare
Social security
Public schools
The list goes on and on
And no that ‘trillions’ is not a typo.
Yet still those communities are poor and crime infested.
I’m sorry but nothing will ever change.
As long as a society is dependent on handouts and sympathy ... they will never improve.
perhaps they should have started with treating them as equals and stamping out the inherent racism in American society.
then perhaps all the things you've mentioned may have had a more positive impact.
You are correct. Our society acts like blacks are not capable of taking care of themselves. We think they need special scholarships and lower college admission standards and hiring preferences. Treating people like they are less capable than others creates low expectations.
equal opportunity wrote:
You are correct. Our society acts like blacks are not capable of taking care of themselves. We think they need special scholarships and lower college admission standards and hiring preferences. Treating people like they are less capable than others creates low expectations.
Correct. Stanford has made a good start by getting rid of programs that really just awarded free admissions posts to rich kids who sail boats, fence, play squash and synchronize swim! For heaven's sake! If you have enough $$ to learn how to sail a boat, you should not be using that as a backdoor into college. And talking about lowing hiring preferences. Dick Cheney flunked out of Yale and became VP. W. Bush was a poor student and. became POTUS. Other occupants of the white house have included a C-grade actor and a reality show host? What kind of 'hiring' standards exist in this country for rich, country club duffers?!
Agreed.
A personal story to share:
Su Ming immigrated from China to the United States at the age of 11. She did not speak English.
Seven years later, she was class valedictorian with near perfect SAT scores, being accepted into an Ivy League university.
How did she do it?
Did America give her ANY special treatment? No!
She did it because she was raised the right way by dedicated parents who valued and expected academic achievement.
Spending trillions to help one race will NEVER work. It just makes them lazy and dependent.
Stop the victim mentality. If you can’t make it in America then you are useless.
MikeMach1977 wrote:
slripe111 wrote:
Looks like you got half the picture. People (both white and black) were brought over for their slave labor, these same people are emancipated but have nowhere to go. Now business needs them in the manufacture centers of America but they still can’t stomach integration so they create substandard dwellings and force them in (ghettos). There is no opportunity in these ghettos and people either barely get by or don’t at all. This raises their ire. The government doesn’t provide better opportunity but instead gives them money. This pacifys them without giving any real concessions that would amount to a meaningful change in the neglected people’s lives. This is calculated and intentional.
Last time I checked HS and trade schools were free. If you to go CC or a state school, there is a lot of free aid to those who have lower incomes irrespective of color. So, who exactly is forcing them where? How is there no way out? You think too little of people. I recall watching a reporter go to Brooklyn after interviewing some college kids from Berkeley explaining how POC can't figure out voting laws, find where to register, didn't have IDs, etc. The people in Brooklyn were pretty offended. They had IDs, knew where their voting stations were, used their cell phones to find things, etc like everyone else. Your explanation sounds a lot like that.
correct. People are just indoctrinated to think that all people are the same. They are most definitely not. Some are just naturally lazier and less resourceful than others. Just look at the difference between countries that have majorities of people of one type.
Also, immigrants have been moving to areas in and around these "ghettos" since the 60s. Since the real estate is cheap. They work hard and then they buy homes. This no opportunity crap is a massive joke blared out by people who don't want to work.
Subway Surfers wrote:
El Keniano wrote:
Never too late, I suppose. But he had to wait until it was safe and no longer controversial. Air Jordan sales matter.
LeBron > Jordan
At what? Certainly not basketball.
making movies?
miss piggy wrote:
Since the 1960’s, the United States government has spent trillions trying to help black people.
Welfare
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Low income section 8 housing
Food stamps
Medicaid
Medicare
Social security
Public schools
The list goes on and on.
So you refuse to claim unemployment benefit if you lose your job? You refuse to receive disability benefit if you become disabled? You refuse to accept Social Security and Medicare when you retire? You send your kids (if you have any) to private schools? Did you go to private schools as well?
Yeah, if every American refuses those "handouts" our debt will be gone pretty quickly.
miss piggy wrote:
Since the 1960’s, the United States government has spent trillions trying to help black people.
Welfare
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Low income section 8 housing
Food stamps
Medicaid
Medicare
Social security
Public schools
The list goes on and on
And no that ‘trillions’ is not a typo.
Yet still those communities are poor and crime infested.
I’m sorry but nothing will ever change.
As long as a society is dependent on handouts and sympathy ... they will never improve.
We have spent more than that on poor uneducated white people as well. It is difficult for poorly educated people to rise out of the circle of poverty. Shrinking the wage gap would be a start.
clown show wrote:
This article is from 2016...
Good catch. Jordan's statement has nothing to do with anything happening in 2020. I missed that the first time through and suspect most readers here did too. So thanks.
miss piggy wrote:
Since the 1960’s, the United States government has spent trillions trying to help black people.
Welfare
Unemployment benefits
Disability benefits
Low income section 8 housing
Food stamps
Medicaid
Medicare
Social security
Public schools
The list goes on and on
And no that ‘trillions’ is not a typo.
Yet still those communities are poor and crime infested.
I’m sorry but nothing will ever change.
As long as a society is dependent on handouts and sympathy ... they will never improve.
Ok, but when social security and welfare programs were introduced in 1935, it excluded around half of American workers by saying domestic and agricultural industries couldn't take advantage; that means an overwhelming majority of African Americans couldn't participate, as these were the only jobs legally available to them...
Furthermore, they weren't able to attend universities that trained students for any other type of work until desegregation more than two decades later, which was an incredibly slow process, as we all know because it's not like this all happened 200 years ago. So, you're basically ignoring the systemic strategy involved with these "helpful" programs. This is the problem with these arguments: people who use these talking points like to pretend to be "true" patriots and Americans, and yet, you're completely unaware of your own history.
We're talking about peoples' grandparents / parents here, so no, even if things were made right and all racism ceased today, it would obviously still take more time for AA's to crawl out of the incredibly deep hole the United States as dug for them.
But sure, keep being an ignorant AND illiterate.
LBJ's so-called War on Poverty destroyed the nuclear Black family and thus the Black middle class. That's the principal cause of the inner city decay we've witnessed over the past 50+ years.
daytripper wrote:
2 black thugs murdered his father; did he ever do or say anything? he should be saying that education and hard work are the parts to take and he should be decrying black violence; with all his many many millions this is the best he can do? pfffft
Uh, no. One murderer was black, the other was white.
If Mike wants to be taken seriously, he needs to go back to rockin the Hitler Mustache: