Moderate, Democrat

So we can all agree that liberalism is a mental disorder?

TIGER KING wrote:

You *might * be a moderate Democrat, but that's not what your party represents. Your party is now far Alt left. Own it. To the inceles above who posted above that they are pro gay, minorities, blah blah blah. Save it. Its about the votes. Period. Full stop.

And yet instead of picking a left or a far left canidate, the part picked about the farthest right person in the field. Compare that to the republican party that picked the farthest right guy in the field. It is an unfortunate effect that if one party goes to one extreme, it allows the other party to drift the other way. You would think hanging out in the middle would cause the moderates to switch parties but it doesn't seem to work that way.

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TIGER KING wrote:

You *might * be a moderate Democrat, but that's not what your party represents. Your party is now far Alt left. Own it. To the inceles above who posted above that they are pro gay, minorities, blah blah blah. Save it. Its about the votes. Period. Full stop.

And yet instead of picking a left or a far left canidate, the part picked about the farthest right person in the field. Compare that to the republican party that picked the farthest right guy in the field. It is an unfortunate effect that if one party goes to one extreme, it allows the other party to drift the other way. You would think hanging out in the middle would cause the moderates to switch parties but it doesn't seem to work that way.

You are right ( no pun). I am in the middle, and I actually think it would be less stressful as a conservative. Afterall, is it the conservatives toppling the statues? And, some were slave abolitionist statues (duh).

Remember my original post was/is "my experiences" Yes, some liberals volunteer. Yes, conservatives do as well. My post refereed to any situation where there is a disagreement on politics. immediately I am called names and anger is seen when speaking to a liberal. I personally have never had a conservative yell or raise their voice at me.

Say what you will, but that has been my experience as a registered voter in the democratic party since 1987

(liberals insert condescending remarks, insults & name calling here)

Exactly5 wrote:

Discussions with liberals; Even though I inform them that I voted for the same person as them, the fact that I disagreed with some on one or more topics, caused the following: Screaming at me. Insults.

Democrats, please spend a few minutes on this video, so you can see what the other side is about.

facts and reason wrote:

Democrats, please spend a few minutes on this video, so you can see what the other side is about.

why do conservatives always assume we don't know what the other side is about? America is a center-right country. The other side is most often held up as the "true" america (even of that is wrong- times change)

We know.

also, "looking for a tribe"?? no wonder that dope went to the GOP.

Exactly5 wrote:

You are right ( no pun). I am in the middle, and I actually think it would be less stressful as a conservative. Afterall, is it the conservatives toppling the statues? And, some were slave abolitionist statues (duh).

Remember my original post was/is "my experiences" Yes, some liberals volunteer. Yes, conservatives do as well. My post refereed to any situation where there is a disagreement on politics. immediately I am called names and anger is seen when speaking to a liberal. I personally have never had a conservative yell or raise their voice at me.

Say what you will, but that has been my experience as a registered voter in the democratic party since 1987

(liberals insert condescending remarks, insults & name calling here)

Go to the search function on this board and search for Libt*rd as far as name calling. Though now it looks like that word was used so much, they had to add it to the filters:) You are delusional if you think conservatives behave any better or worse. You might just not be offended as much by the cr*p they spill out. And as far as anger, go ask some "conservative" about how they feel about all those coloreds on welfare or transwoman using the proper restroom. Let me know how many threats of violence the second one elicits.

Both parties have had vocal extremists for a long time. For whatever reason those extremists were able to take over republican party ~15 years ago and it looks like the democratic party is going down the same path. There maybe some truth to the suggestion that it is an internet thing (easy to create echo chambers, easy to organize, and easy to push out a message. ). It will be interesting to see how society adapts.

The left seems to keep going further and further left into an area that alienates more and more people in the US. Pretty much all (not entirely all) of the people I see acting like children are on the left. Furthermore, the left is branding itself as a group not only tolerant of anarchy, riots, mayhem, and anti-US rhetoric but in active favor of it in some cases. What are conservatives for? Working for a living. Law and order. Due process (as opposed to mob mentality). Freedom of speech. etc.

Not to sound dramatic, but there are a lot of parallels between what is currently going on with the left and the rise of the Nazis in Germany. In Germany, there was a large wealth inequality between Jews and non-Jews, and Jews were vilified for their privilege (they didn't call it that but that's what it is), Nazis became obsessed with classifying people by race, refused to take any responsibility for themselves and the state of Germany, and instead used Jews as a scapegoat and tried to impose national socialism. Freedom of speech was removed and propaganda ran rampant. History is repeating itself. It amazes me that anyone fails to see the parallels.

https://youtu.be/nI-Ko-d29X4

The world has gone insane wrote:

The left seems to keep going further and further left into an area that alienates more and more people in the US..

https://youtu.be/nI-Ko-d29X4

In terms of economic policy, Obama would have been too far right to be in the Nixon administration. By in large, the United States has drifted to the right in the past 50 years. And speaking as someone who has studied the Weimar period in great detail, you should stop making facile comparisons with Germany in the 1930s. The respective situations do not bear simplistic analogy.

Sounds like you haven’t been over to the Official Trump Thread yet.

TIGER KING wrote:

So we can all agree that liberalism is a mental disorder?

Yes, and conservatives are proto-human beings.

Exactly5 wrote:

Remember my original post was/is "my experiences"

The problem with saying "my experiences" gives you the freedom to say pretty much whatever you want.

In my experiences, a large number of my conservative friends use the N-word frequently and tell racist jokes. A couple of them said, "I wish I could kill that N-" when we were talking about Obama when he was President. None of my liberal friends ever use that word.

which is it anarchy or fascism? you repubs don't even know what you're trying to say

I am pretty conservative and I have never had "friends" say that word, much less wish death upon a president. My definition of a friend is someone I would have over for dinner. You must be "friends" with quite a mix of people

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

Exactly5 wrote:

Remember my original post was/is "my experiences"

The problem with saying "my experiences" gives you the freedom to say pretty much whatever you want.

In my experiences, a large number of my conservative friends use the N-word frequently and tell racist jokes. A couple of them said, "I wish I could kill that N-" when we were talking about Obama when he was President. None of my liberal friends ever use that word.

I work in an area that is EXTREMELY right wing and has historical ties to the KKK. I have never heard anyone say anything remotely like this.

Maybe that was your point, but I would counter personal experiences are very relevant if people are actually honest.

Camus 2.0 wrote:

The world has gone insane wrote:

The left seems to keep going further and further left into an area that alienates more and more people in the US..

https://youtu.be/nI-Ko-d29X4

In terms of economic policy, Obama would have been too far right to be in the Nixon administration. By in large, the United States has drifted to the right in the past 50 years. And speaking as someone who has studied the Weimar period in great detail, you should stop making facile comparisons with Germany in the 1930s. The respective situations do not bear simplistic analogy.

Can you please state specific reasons you think the country is more right-wind today than it was 50 years ago?

critical thinking is non-existent wrote:

UsedToBeKnowItAll wrote:

The problem with saying "my experiences" gives you the freedom to say pretty much whatever you want.

In my experiences, a large number of my conservative friends use the N-word frequently and tell racist jokes. A couple of them said, "I wish I could kill that N-" when we were talking about Obama when he was President. None of my liberal friends ever use that word.

I work in an area that is EXTREMELY right wing and has historical ties to the KKK. I have never heard anyone say anything remotely like this.

Maybe that was your point, but I would counter personal experiences are very relevant if people are actually honest.

Yes, this actually was my point. Using personal experiences and then labeling "conservatives" or "liberals" is basically taking a very isolated experience and implying it is characteristic of a larger group.

And I didn't even have to make my personal experience up. I have a group of friends that go back to childhood. I don't hang out with them often nowadays, but when I get together with them, I discovered they have become very racist. Also, very homophobic. Anything they don't like is "gay". And anyone they don't like is "a f@g". I told them I'm offended by this (both the racism and the homophobia), and they actually said they wouldn't talk that way in front of me anymore. But I doubt they have actually quit talking that way among themselves.

And to be clear, I don't think this is common with conservatives in general. I was just using this example as a point that anyone can have a "bad" experience with a small group that is part of a larger group. And I think this generalization is dangerous and common. We see 1% of bad cops, and now all cops are bad? We see 1% of protesters rioting, and now all protesters are bad? It's sloppy, lazy thinking.

Not necessarily calling you a liar, but I find this hard to believe. I have not heard a single person use "gay" to refer to something bad since about 2005. I cannot imagine anyone talking like that in 2020 regardless of political affiliation.

Some people in the LGBTQ community use the term f@g though.